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Goobster
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BaysideForever
1. Yes he is denying he had anything to do with her death and said she did not drown in the pool.
2. yes, he denied abuse and he took the paternity test and he did not father caylee.
3. no her parents are not still supporting her I DON'T THINK... but that is unclear. I don't really know how they feel personally and what they tell people... they were supporting her before the body was found. Now, and during this case, i know they have not looked at casey AT ALL and casey cried because her mom was avoiding all eye contact and such. so i presume, no.
4. yes, it is laughable. if it was an accident there would be no duct tape. major point in the prosecutions case.
5. I have no clue about the lungs thing, I didn't realize that... maybe because lungs decompose? Caylee was just all bones and animals were eating away at her... so all that was left was a skeleton and some shards of clothing remains...
Thank you for answering.
About the duct tape....wouldn't they just say a kidnapper put that on her?
And what's this with chloroform? What is it and what role does it play in this case?
Glad to hear her father has gone against these insane allegations.
That poor poor little girl. OMG. What a monster. It's so clear she did this.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:12 AM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Goobster
I have not really been following the trial. Nor this thread. But I finally read this whole thread. I have a few questions I hope someone can answer for me.
1) Is her father denying that he helped with his granddaugthers body? What is his response to this? Both parents deny involvement.
2) Is the father denying the abuse allegations? Yes.
3) Is her parents still supporting her?
It's hard to tell, but their testimony has clearly helped the prosecution, IMO. They don't seem to have any contact with Casey in the courtroom.
4) Why should anyone believe they would make a child who "accidentally" drowned look kidnapped? Who could or would do that to their child? What a crock. IMO, the defense is using the accidental drowning scenario to create "reasonable doubt" as to whether Casey murdered the child or not.
5) Why was the poor childs body found without lungs? (read this on this thread)
Only skeletal remains were found, since it was 6 months later. Bones only, no organs or other body parts.
I may have a few others but these were the ones that I am extremely eager to know. Clearly to me this woman killed her daughter. Can her parents really still be supporting her?
Tried to answer to the best of my knowledge!
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Posted 6/13/11 11:16 AM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Well her original story WAS that she was kidnapped. But it was all fake, the woman she claimed was the nanny who stole her was never found and the defense is using drowning as their case now, not kidnapping.
Chloroform is probably what TRULY killed caylee. Casey supposedly used the chloroform to kill caylee or at least try to get her to sleep/pass out and accidentally killed her. It was found in the trunk of the car in the air especially and was also googled on her computer.
Her brother was also accused of abuse.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:16 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BaysideForever
Well her original story WAS that she was kidnapped. But it was all fake, the woman she claimed was the nanny who stole her was never found and the defense is using drowning as their case now, not kidnapping.
Chloroform is probably what TRULY killed caylee. Casey supposedly used the chloroform to kill caylee or at least try to get her to sleep/pass out and accidentally killed her. It was found in the trunk of the car in the air especially and was also googled on her computer.
Her brother was also accused of abuse.
I am know I am being lazy to not google but what is Choloroform, and where did she get it? I see...drugging the child so she can go out (I read that on here). Then maybe she killed her on accident or do we still believe she purposely killed her?
What a SICK SICK SICK BIOTCH. OMG, she has to be found guilty.
Message edited 6/13/2011 11:20:12 AM.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:19 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Dee0522
Posted by Goobster
I have not really been following the trial. Nor this thread. But I finally read this whole thread. I have a few questions I hope someone can answer for me.
1) Is her father denying that he helped with his granddaugthers body? What is his response to this? Both parents deny involvement.
2) Is the father denying the abuse allegations? Yes.
3) Is her parents still supporting her?
It's hard to tell, but their testimony has clearly helped the prosecution, IMO. They don't seem to have any contact with Casey in the courtroom.
4) Why should anyone believe they would make a child who "accidentally" drowned look kidnapped? Who could or would do that to their child? What a crock. IMO, the defense is using the accidental drowning scenario to create "reasonable doubt" as to whether Casey murdered the child or not.
5) Why was the poor childs body found without lungs? (read this on this thread)
Only skeletal remains were found, since it was 6 months later. Bones only, no organs or other body parts.
I may have a few others but these were the ones that I am extremely eager to know. Clearly to me this woman killed her daughter. Can her parents really still be supporting her?
Tried to answer to the best of my knowledge!
what a MONSTER.
Message edited 6/9/2014 1:10:05 PM.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:20 AM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Here we go... the heart sticker!
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Posted 6/13/11 11:25 AM |
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I have to go attend some meetings- I will be gone to 3:00 (guessing, estimating). To whoever is watching during this time, please tell me what I missed if anything interesting or important comes out! Thanks in advance!!
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Posted 6/13/11 11:26 AM |
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lbelle821
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
is this girl reading her answers?
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Posted 6/13/11 11:27 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Dee0522
Here we go... the heart sticker!
What channel is this on Fios? Anyone know?
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Posted 6/13/11 11:34 AM |
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Goobster
Posted by Dee0522
Here we go... the heart sticker!
What channel is this on Fios? Anyone know?
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Posted 6/13/11 11:38 AM |
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DeniseMarie
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
What was the whole thing with this heart sticker? I missed it
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Posted 6/13/11 11:47 AM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by DeniseMarie
What was the whole thing with this heart sticker? I missed it
Damn, nobody took a photo of it! That will hurt. The woman currently on the stand who examined the duct tape said she found sticker residue on the tape in the shape of a heart. Unfortunately there are no photos of it because she was only looking for latent fingerprints. When she came back to the item a second time she attempted to take a picture but the residue was no longer there.
Some are saying these stickers were found in the Anthony home, but I haven't heard mention of that in court yet.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:58 AM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Done for the day!! Recess until 1PM Tuesday. State has no more witnesses today... one is traveling and will not be available until tomorrow afternoon. Interesting! The judge also announced that they anticipate the State to wrap up their presentation by Wednesday, the defense to begin their presentation Thurs and possibly have the jury begin deliberations by next weekend. He says they are ahead of schedule.
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Posted 6/13/11 12:12 PM |
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domsmom52704
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
The FBI analyst testified that there was heart shaped residue left on the duct tape, as if Caylee had been wearing a bandaid or in this case a heart shaped sticker, for a long period of time and the glue left a "residue" behind that was picked up by the duct tape.
The significance is there were heart shaped stickers found in the Anthony household. However, although it is significant it's not as damaging as the hair evidence that the other FBI expert testified on today. Reason being, Caylee's remains were found in plastic garbage bags with matching bags found in the Anthony house and a canvas laundry bag that also had a match in the home and a blanket we know came from there. Cadaver dogs also got a hit on the smell of a dead body in the backyard near Caylee's playhouse, as if that is where she had died. As much as I wish they did, none of these things tie Casey to Caylee's death, it's all circumstantial because 2 other ppl lived in the home with them, George and Cindy and Lee had a key.
The fact that we don't have an exact "cause of death" or a specific murder weapon makes this case very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes, her death was determined a "homicide by undetermined means" but that is based only on the circumstances of the body's discovery; ie: the duct tape, disposal in the woods and placed in garbage bags to hide the remains etc...None of which contained any indication of cause or time of death or person responsible.
On the other hand; the hair evidence they admitted today is much more damaging. There was hair found in the trunk of Casey's car that had a "death band" on it which indicates a point of death and decomp from that point forward, and that hair was compared to the sample taken from the hair attached to the duct tape and was determined to be a match only in an earlier stage of decomposition. The only drawback to this is that the expert said that eventhough the hairs do match, he cannot use that as a definitive means to determine DNA identification.
They are going to have the Tattoo Artist testify tomorrow, the one who gave Casey the "Bella Vita" tattoo which means "Beautiful Life" 9 days after her little girl "disappeared" (probably already dead, killed by Casey) and the day after she pranced around on a bar competing in a hot body contest...
It's sickening...the writing is ALL OVER the dang wall...She cold-bloodedly killed her own beautiful little girl, put her body in bags and then in the trunk of her car, leaving it there to rot before throwing it in the woods like garbage. All the while she went about life acting like a normal 22yo single girl with no kids or responsibilities, getting a tattoo and clubbing, not a care in the world. THEY EVEN recited an entry from her diary from the same time as the tattoo that Casey wrote "I am finally happy, l only hope things stay this way"
I hope this girl rots in he..
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Posted 6/13/11 2:30 PM |
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thanks for catching me up... I was so upset to find out they were done for the day. I hope I'll be able to watch on the day of the verdict. It's good news to hear they are ahead of schedule, but I'm sure Baez will find a way to mess that up and lengthen his side of things...
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Posted 6/13/11 2:51 PM |
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partyof6
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I know I heard the following tidbits somewhere on a show..I just dont get why none of this is important
1-I heard the heart shaped sticker can tie casey in because when she was younger and as well as others she grew up with if a pet died they buried it and put a heart sticker with the pet. Why not call a childhood friend to the stand regarding this?? #2-noone at all slept with this chick the day before she killed her daughter? n why was Jesse Grund never called or was he and I missed it? #3-the diary entry. I could swear the book its written in I heard it can b proven its from the year the baby died because the book was not made in previous years like defense claimed, her entry said shes glad she did what she did and wants to see how her life plays out now or something. #3-isnt anthony lazzaros twitter messages sent out that like day or two before a motive?? I just don't get it.
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Posted 6/13/11 9:56 PM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
When was the diary spoken about? I only started following the trial in the second week, did I miss that? Was it submitted as evidence?
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Posted 6/13/11 10:52 PM |
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Domino
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
When was the diary entry put into evidence? Wouldnt casey need to testify that it was hers? Unless Casey Anthony has a death wish and Baez wants to loose this case, there is NO WAY she is testifying. Casey Anthony is a very smart, manipulative person. I do not believe she is stupid enough to demand that she put on the stand.
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Posted 6/13/11 11:43 PM |
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all of these as well as many others tidbits of information are important but for some reason, were not or could not be used in trial.
Posted by partyof6
I know I heard the following tidbits somewhere on a show..I just dont get why none of this is important
1-I heard the heart shaped sticker can tie casey in because when she was younger and as well as others she grew up with if a pet died they buried it and put a heart sticker with the pet. Why not call a childhood friend to the stand regarding this?? #2-noone at all slept with this chick the day before she killed her daughter? n why was Jesse Grund never called or was he and I missed it? #3-the diary entry. I could swear the book its written in I heard it can b proven its from the year the baby died because the book was not made in previous years like defense claimed, her entry said shes glad she did what she did and wants to see how her life plays out now or something. #3-isnt anthony lazzaros twitter messages sent out that like day or two before a motive?? I just don't get it.
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Posted 6/14/11 7:44 AM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Since trial is starting late today: I figured I'd share some of Casey's jail letter excerpts.
In one excerpt, Casey elaborates on a paternity test she had taken to determine the true father of Caylee Marie.
"Our 'exes' sure are winners aren't they! At least I know, well am 99 % sure, that Cays isn't Jesse's. We had a paternity test done when she was a couple weeks old, and it took forever to get the results back which I've been told shouldn't have been the case ... and according to the paper he brought to my house in late Sept. 05, Jesse wasn't the father. Joy to the world! The strange thing is, Baez asked for him to give a sample of his DNA, and he refused! We wanted to see whether or not the test results from 4 years ago were true. Drama. I despise that loser and I pity him and his self-righteous Christian family. His dad claim's to be the right hand of God. Hate to burst his bubble, but Jesus sits there. I totally know what you went through with Sam's dad. Same exact feelings J's dad had towards me. And no, they aren't Spanish. Something almost worst- Italian. I've always like Italian guys, but I've come to realize that I need to stick to my roots and go Irish. They may be drunks, but at least they cook and know how to properly treat a woman. Can I get an Amen?"
Casey also expresses respect to a fellow inmate that, "you held your ground against the feds. I know that wasn't easy." She goes on to say:
"And again, let the similarities roll on. My situation with living at home with Cays and my folks, staying home all day and going out at night looking for Mr. Right, same exact situation. I don't know one single mom who doesn't try to get their freedom regardless of how old they are. That's one of the biggest things that truly cuts me when I hear them talk about me as a mother-I was a great Mom! And I love my daughter with everything that I have I would give my life to have her back even for minutes."
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Posted 6/14/11 7:55 AM |
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[Some of her notes indicate a mistrust of family members. Of her brother, Lee, she writes:
“I find out that my brother was acting according to scripts, via law enforcement, when he came to visit me back in July and August, and he was reporting back to them with whatever I told them.”
Of her mother, Cindy, she writes:
“Come to find out that she put a trademark on Caylee’s name months back, never told me, and even talked about doing the same with mine. This is the same time she publicly states that she plans on writing a book about this! B-E-T-R-A-Y-A-L!!! I’m so sick to my stomach even thinking about this. I’m the only person who has tried to protect Caylee throughout all of this, and it kills me!”
Casey goes on to say that:
“I’ve officially lost my entire blood-related family in the blink of an eye, in the middle of mourning my daughters death, trying to exonerate myself, and figure out what steps to take in achieving these things, and I get [expletive] over by my entire family.”
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Posted 6/14/11 7:58 AM |
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she is such a nut job but most articles claim she certainly won't get death penalty and may actually get off the hook. I pray this jury does their job but they all have to agree on a guilty verdict- all of them. death penalty will be majority rules plus judges opinion i believe.
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Posted 6/14/11 8:00 AM |
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I don't understand why on top of all these charges... all of her theft and stealing and forgery during the months of her being in and out of jail are not an issue... i feel like if she is not found guilty for the actual murder of caylee, she should at least be punished for all of the other ridiculous things she has been proven to have done...
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Posted 6/14/11 8:17 AM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Domino
When was the diary entry put into evidence? Wouldnt casey need to testify that it was hers? Unless Casey Anthony has a death wish and Baez wants to loose this case, there is NO WAY she is testifying. Casey Anthony is a very smart, manipulative person. I do not believe she is stupid enough to demand that she put on the stand.
He won't be able to prove his case otherwise though. No one else can testify that it was an "accident" and that George hid the body, other than Casey.
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Posted 6/14/11 8:19 AM |
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MrsBurtch525
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
offbeat question but does anyone know WHO is actually Caylee's father?
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Posted 6/14/11 8:24 AM |
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