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MamaLeen
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I find it very creepy how Baez and Casey look at each other, the smirks and the look she gets in her eyes. You can tell she has manipulated her way through so many situations by flirting and playing the role. Well (I hope) its not going to work anymore. She is an evil b!tch and she knows exactly what she is doing and did do. 
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Is the jury going to be allowed to smell the cans of death?
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| Posted 6/15/11 11:57 AM |
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Jonsgirl04
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
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Me and DH experimented with the duct tape. I put it to my face and it covered my nose and mouth completely..It covered my DH mouth and nose who has a bigger mouth and nose than i do. Then I held it by my 16 month old..(I did not put it on her don't worry!!!) Haha!! who is obviously smaller than Calley and it covered more than her nose and mouth. So if 3 pieces of duct tape were placed onto little calley's mouth after she chloroformed her..then she probably died by suffocating her and maybe she thought well if I chloroform her she won't be awake while she dies..
I My DH loves Law and Order and CSI so it was interesting to see what the duct tape could do. 
YOU duct-taped your nose and mouth? 
 I put it against my face to see if it would cover my mouth and nose. I did not leave it on!! I just pressed it on there quickly, so I could see if it was possible to cover both the nose and mouth..I could still breathe!! I am not that nuts!! haha!! 
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Jenhos
Is the jury going to be allowed to smell the cans of death?
Since the State rested its case today, no. There must've been some reason that the judge didn't allow it.
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| Posted 6/15/11 3:16 PM |
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Mushesgirl
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I was with my bff today who has a 2 yr old boy. I looked closely at his face. His nose and mouth are so tiny, anything could suffocate a small child so easily!!! I was sick just thinking about it!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted 6/15/11 3:20 PM |
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Dee0522
Posted by Jenhos
Is the jury going to be allowed to smell the cans of death?
Since the State rested its case today, no. There must've been some reason that the judge didn't allow it.
they will have the cans in front of them when they deliberate, as well as all the other evidence that was submitted into evidence. It is unknown yet if they will be permitted to smell the cans or not.
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| Posted 6/15/11 3:20 PM |
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JennyPenny
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I think once the cans are in the room with them they're allowed to do whatever they want with them. Look at them, smell them- whatever. They weren't going to be passed around the courtroom but once they were permitted as evidence, they're permitted into the jury deliberation.
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| Posted 6/15/11 3:32 PM |
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Dee0522
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by JennyPenny
I think once the cans are in the room with them they're allowed to do whatever they want with them. Look at them, smell them- whatever. They weren't going to be passed around the courtroom but once they were permitted as evidence, they're permitted into the jury deliberation.
Oh, ok I didn't know that. Ugh, if I were them I would not want to smell anything even remotely NEAR those cans! I'd take the word of the witnesses! 
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| Posted 6/15/11 4:44 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Just heard on the news that the defense is calling a man named Vasco Thomson as a surprise witness..
Apparently he is a known kidnapper from Florida in the 80s and cell phone records show that he came into contact with George's cell phone 4 times in the days before Casey admitted Caylee was "missing"
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BridesBuddy2011
Just heard on the news that the defense is calling a man named Vasco Thomson as a surprise witness..
Apparently he is a known kidnapper from Florida in the 80s and cell phone records show that he came into contact with George's cell phone 4 times in the days before Casey admitted Caylee was "missing"
which is stupid because the defense already stated that Casey was aware of when and how Caylee died. Obviously some random person didn't kidnap her if she was already dead.
I still believe George has some part of this. I am not sure he was involved with the murder (which I doubt) or the cover up but I believe he was in contact with Casey during the time she and Caylee were "missing". I also believe Casey had told him that her car had run out of gas and that is why he knew to bring the gas cans with him to pick up her car.
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smdl
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I think SHE killed her child accidentally and discovered a new freedom afterwards (the partying!). I am not sure of the involvement of her dad but I think he may very well have been part of the cover up. She probably cried to him saying she had accidentally killed her daughter with the chloroform. The dad "may" have helped her "stage" a kidnapping and wrap the little girl to make it look like she had been kidnapped then dumped. I think she kept the body of the child in the trunk in the car until she talked to her dad (if the dad is involved). SHE put the heart sticker on the duck tape.
I don't think the grandmother knew anything about it when she called 911. She may have known later but realy it's unknown.
The father "may" have been involved but I think it's such circumstancial case.
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| Posted 6/15/11 6:08 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Deedlebugs
Posted by BridesBuddy2011
Just heard on the news that the defense is calling a man named Vasco Thomson as a surprise witness..
Apparently he is a known kidnapper from Florida in the 80s and cell phone records show that he came into contact with George's cell phone 4 times in the days before Casey admitted Caylee was "missing"
which is stupid because the defense already stated that Casey was aware of when and how Caylee died. Obviously some random person didn't kidnap her if she was already dead.
I still believe George has some part of this. I am not sure he was involved with the murder (which I doubt) or the cover up but I believe he was in contact with Casey during the time she and Caylee were "missing". I also believe Casey had told him that her car had run out of gas and that is why he knew to bring the gas cans with him to pick up her car.
I don't believe he was in contact with her. Cindy was, and cell phone records show that. Cell phone records didn't show George was.
I think it was probably common sense for him to bring the gas cans when the tow yard called them since she was always running out of gas because her gas gauge was "broken" or so she says (it wasn't, as per the person that examined the car).
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| Posted 6/15/11 6:09 PM |
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by smdl
I think SHE killed her child accidentally and discovered a new freedom afterwards (the partying!). I am not sure of the involvement of her dad but I think he may very well have been part of the cover up. She probably cried to him saying she had accidentally killed her daughter with the chloroform. The dad "may" have helped her "stage" a kidnapping and wrap the little girl to make it look like she had been kidnapped then dumped. I think she kept the body of the child in the trunk in the car until she talked to her dad (if the dad is involved). SHE put the heart sticker on the duck tape.
I don't think the grandmother knew anything about it when she called 911. She may have known later but realy it's unknown.
The father "may" have been involved but I think it's such circumstancial case.
I think she used to Chloroform to knock her out so that she could kill her by suffocation without making her suffer. I think the same though as far as putting her in the trunk until she figured out what to do and the rest of what you said. There is no doubt in my mind, by her actions, that it was intentional, the death of that beautiful child.
ETA: Now I know I am going to get ripped apart for this BUT I do believe that she was molested by George. I don't know why but I had a gut feeling even before the defense said this in opening statements. I just always felts something was off with him.
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BargainMama
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
That's what those of us who haven't been molested would think but unfortunately victims of incest tend to defend and sympathize with their abusers. I do not for one moment think that gives her ANY excuse to do what she did since there are TONS of victims who never go on to kill their children and act the way she did. It is just a gut feeling I have. I feel sorry for her if she was abused because no child deserves that but I still want her to rot in Hell and get the death penalty.
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smdl
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
Molested children grow up to do things that nobody else think they would do. They are all affected differently. The same for battered women who stay with their SO and everybody says they would never do that.
Yet, not all of them kill their children either. So it's really not an excuse at all!!!!
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by smdl
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
Molested children grow up to do things that nobody else think they would do. They are all affected differently. The same for battered women who stay with their SO and everybody says they would never do that.
Yet, not all of them kill their children either. So it's really not an excuse at all!!!!
agreed! Terrible, horrible thing to live but NEVER an excuse to hurt another, abuse another or murder YOUR OWN CHILD. Her behavior such as promiscuity, lying, drugs, alcohol etc. are consistent of behaviors of sexual abuse survivors. Murdering your child is not consistent with sexual abuse survivors so it serves as no defense but it might explain a little of the before and after.
VERY interesting article about sexual abuse and Casey Anthony.
Sexual Abuse
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LisaW
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I don't know if anyone posted the video, but this is where Cindy looks at Casey and mouths, "I love you", and Casey just raises her eyebrows and shrugs...
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smdl
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Deedlebugs
Posted by smdl
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
Molested children grow up to do things that nobody else think they would do. They are all affected differently. The same for battered women who stay with their SO and everybody says they would never do that.
Yet, not all of them kill their children either. So it's really not an excuse at all!!!!
agreed! Terrible, horrible thing to live but NEVER an excuse to hurt another, abuse another or murder YOUR OWN CHILD. Her behavior such as promiscuity, lying, drugs, alcohol etc. are consistent of behaviors of sexual abuse survivors. Murdering your child is not consistent with sexual abuse survivors so it serves as no defense but it might explain a little of the before and after.
VERY interesting article about sexual abuse and Casey Anthony.
Sexual Abuse
I agree that her behavior is consistent with past molestation. It does not have to be but it is consistent with it.
I do think she loves her dad. Yet, she hates her mom. I think she hates her mom for not protecting her when she was a kid. Yet, she has that hate/love relationship with her dad. The dynamic of molested children are very different from what people would expect.
But murder of your own child is NOT consistent with murdering your own child.
I do think she would do whatever her dad would tell her to do. But I don't think the dad killed or found the kid in the pool. I think SHE killed her kid and he is protecting her. Because if he molested her... he will protect her FOREVER!!! Again consistent with sexual abuse.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Deedlebugs
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
That's what those of us who haven't been molested would think but unfortunately victims of incest tend to defend and sympathize with their abusers. I do not for one moment think that gives her ANY excuse to do what she did since there are TONS of victims who never go on to kill their children and act the way she did. It is just a gut feeling I have. I feel sorry for her if she was abused because no child deserves that but I still want her to rot in Hell and get the death penalty.
I have to agree... i think something happened to her. i dont know what but SOMETHING happened! I also think the dynamic between her and her mom is so interesting. I will probably get flamed for saying this but cindy anthony doesnt seem like an angel to me. I think Casey definitely gets her dramatic attitude from her mother (not saying anything about her acting on trial, just in general). I just watched cindy on the stand and something just doesnt sit right with me. not saying that casey is innocent or anything of that nature...but just that there is certainly so much more going on within this family than meets the eye.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
My own thoughts are that they all knew she was a shiitbag mom but tolerated her BS because they didn't want to risk not seeing their grandaughter. I think they won't own up to that it court because they don't want to put the nail in her coffin by outright saying she was a shiiitty mom.
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I personally do inot agree. I think she is a complete socialpath. I do not think she was molested they even said on Dr. Drew with specialists that some of the behavior is consistent with being abused but with what Casey has done it would be consistent with someone that was molested every day since a very young age to recently. It woud be from a very prolonged abuse.
I do not think if this was the case she would just have a inkling of being abused after she was indicted and already in jail. She never ever said so before. Also, she said her brother tried to but didnt suceed and she thinks her dad did the same to her when she was younger. She thinks?? or her lies that she makes truths to herself is the issue?
If she was so abused she never had a inkling before with weird feelings that were unexplained in front of him in a bikini or other odd things? only after she winds up in jail? Jmho-liar!
drowing or no drowning does not explain duct tape to me. I also feel a grown man is not puktting a heart sticker over the kids mouth.
I heard tonight about the surprise witness but heard he never recieved the calls, does not know the man and they do not know if he called him or the length of the call.
Its probably his daughters friend, ha
anyhow we will see, intersting that the witnesses they r calling is a convict and three pyschics, one that george supposedly had a affair with..omg. please.
He confessed to the pyschic? why?? if she was sooooooo good shouldn't she already know?
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by jtotheo
Posted by Deedlebugs
Posted by BargainMama
I've never been molested, but I don't think if I was molested by my father, I would continue to live in his house once I reached the legal age to move out. Nor would I expose my baby girl to a molester either. I don't buy it for a minute. I think it's just another one her lies.
That's what those of us who haven't been molested would think but unfortunately victims of incest tend to defend and sympathize with their abusers. I do not for one moment think that gives her ANY excuse to do what she did since there are TONS of victims who never go on to kill their children and act the way she did. It is just a gut feeling I have. I feel sorry for her if she was abused because no child deserves that but I still want her to rot in Hell and get the death penalty.
I have to agree... i think something happened to her. i dont know what but SOMETHING happened! I also think the dynamic between her and her mom is so interesting. I will probably get flamed for saying this but cindy anthony doesnt seem like an angel to me. I think Casey definitely gets her dramatic attitude from her mother (not saying anything about her acting on trial, just in general). I just watched cindy on the stand and something just doesnt sit right with me. not saying that casey is innocent or anything of that nature...but just that there is certainly so much more going on within this family than meets the eye.
According to the bail guy, Cindy was chocking her daughter in a fight the night before she left the house. The cops know about it. Yet, has not been discussed in court. Interesting!
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I don't care whether or not she was sexually abused. I have many friends who have been and they are honest, nice people who would not murder their child and lie about it. I honestly don't think she was abused, I think it was easy for her to go with at the point she was at.
She is a pathological liar and will try to lie herself out of every situation here. She perpetually lies about everything to everyone. She's lied about jobs, caylee, nanny, boyfriends, father of caylee, money, plans with friends, going places ... I don't think any of the "defense" is legit, I believe it is also all fabrications.
And that is completely ridiculous if it is true they are bringing in psychics and other silly people or exposing George's affair. The prosecution didn't bring in Casey's ex-fiance Jesse Grund or use her diary entry, etc. Baez also kept asking REAL EXPERT witnesses if they were getting paid to talk, or using this for exposure... BAEZ himself is getting paid for this and using this for exposure and I'm sure so are the "psychics" and other weirdos they magically found to lie for them and plant doubt. Casey is a disgusting human being, and she better be found guilty. She deserves a miserable life.
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LisaW
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Posted by BaysideForever
I don't care whether or not she was sexually abused. I have many friends who have been and they are honest, nice people who would not murder their child and lie about it. I honestly don't think she was abused, I think it was easy for her to go with at the point she was at.
She is a pathological liar and will try to lie herself out of every situation here. She perpetually lies about everything to everyone. She's lied about jobs, caylee, nanny, boyfriends, father of caylee, money, plans with friends, going places ... I don't think any of the "defense" is legit, I believe it is also all fabrications.
And that is completely ridiculous if it is true they are bringing in psychics and other silly people or exposing George's affair. The prosecution didn't bring in Casey's ex-fiance Jesse Grund or use her diary entry, etc. Baez also kept asking REAL EXPERT witnesses if they were getting paid to talk, or using this for exposure... BAEZ himself is getting paid for this and using this for exposure and I'm sure so are the "psychics" and other weirdos they magically found to lie for them and plant doubt. Casey is a disgusting human being, and she better be found guilty. She deserves a miserable life.
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