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jambalady
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CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
I decided to start CIO on my DD last night (5 1/2 mos) and she cried for over 2 hours last night.
I finally gave up and went in and gave her a paci, and 15 minutes later she was crying again and fussing very 15 minutes till I took her in bed with me .
CIO worked wonders for my DS.
The first night he cried for 1.5 hours, and got progressively better the next 2 nights and then was STTN after the 4th or 5th night.
2 hours just seems so long.
Should I have let her cry longer? It just seemed too long at that point. It was almost morning.
Should I try again tonight?
uggghhh, not sure what to do here. She wasn't crying in hysterics at any point, just definitely complaining and crying.
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
I think I'd wait until she was 6 months +
How old was your DS when you did CIO
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:05 PM |
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Ian&EmmesMommy23
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by BethanyLynn
I think I'd wait until she was 6 months +
i was going to say the same thing. maybe shes not ready? 
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:07 PM |
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
DS was also 5 mos when we did CIO.
The pediatrician okayed it for both of them at 4 months.
DD is only 2 weeks from 6 mos so it's not that far off. And she is definitely not hungry bc she will only take maybe an ounce or 2 if I feed her.
I started last night because for the past week or so she has been getting worse and worse with her sleep.
She went from waking 2-3x/night for her paci (and she would go right back to sleep), to every hour from 2AM on, to every 30 minutes, to every 15 minutes within a week.
I have no idea what is going on with her!
ETA: She is not sick. Happy as a clam during the day and otherwise a smiling, happy baby.
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:09 PM |
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Dulcinea
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
5.5 months is too young, remember not all babies develop the same nor react the same way to CIO. Wait a month or two before you try again.
IMO 2 hours is too long (I would stop at 45 mins), did try checking in every 5, 10, 15 minutes?
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aliwnec10
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
We did CIO for naps at 5 1/2 months and then CIO for bedtime at 6 months.
The first night of CIO, he cried for 2 hours. It's heartbreaking i know. The thing that always stopped me from going in was... well we've gone this long... if i go in now, those 2 hours are for nothing. kwim?
how is she for naps? have you had to CIO for naps or no?
you could always wait 2 more weeks and try again...
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:10 PM |
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by Dulcinea
5.5 months is too young, remember not all babies develop the same nor react the same way to CIO. Wait a month or two before you try again.
IMO 2 hours is too long (I would stop at 45 mins), did try checking in every 5, 10, 15 minutes?
I tried everything from checking in, to her paci, to rubbing her head, rubbing her back, putting her mobile back on, to rocking her.
She will not stay asleep unless she is sleeping with me.
She went from getting better and better sleepwise to completely regressing.
I made the mistake of allowing my DS to cosleep and he still needs to sleep with one of us.
I absolutely refuse to let that happen again.
I do not want another cosleeping child.
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:15 PM |
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by aliwnec10
We did CIO for naps at 5 1/2 months and then CIO for bedtime at 6 months.
The first night of CIO, he cried for 2 hours. It's heartbreaking i know. The thing that always stopped me from going in was... well we've gone this long... if i go in now, those 2 hours are for nothing. kwim?
how is she for naps? have you had to CIO for naps or no?
you could always wait 2 more weeks and try again...
She is getting worse for her naps too.
She went from 2-3 solid 1.5-2 hour naps to waking after 45 minutes, fussing for 15-20 minutes, and then falling back to sleep for another hour, so I guess you can say we are letting her CIO for naps. We don't go in and get her. We just pop her paci in, she fusses and then will eventually go back to sleep.
uggghh - maybe I will try again in 2 weeks.
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:19 PM |
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aliwnec10
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by jambalady
Posted by aliwnec10
We did CIO for naps at 5 1/2 months and then CIO for bedtime at 6 months.
The first night of CIO, he cried for 2 hours. It's heartbreaking i know. The thing that always stopped me from going in was... well we've gone this long... if i go in now, those 2 hours are for nothing. kwim?
how is she for naps? have you had to CIO for naps or no?
you could always wait 2 more weeks and try again...
She is getting worse for her naps too.
She went from 2-3 solid 1.5-2 hour naps to waking after 45 minutes, fussing for 15-20 minutes, and then falling back to sleep for another hour, so I guess you can say we are letting her CIO for naps. We don't go in and get her. We just pop her paci in, she fusses and then will eventually go back to sleep.
uggghh - maybe I will try again in 2 weeks.
well unfortunately she might just be a stubborn one in that department! Is she waking because her pacifier falls out?
honestly the next time you try it, whether it be tonight or 2 weeks time... if you do it... you have to commit to it. I know you know that. 
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:33 PM |
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by aliwnec10
well unfortunately she might just be a stubborn one in that department! Is she waking because her pacifier falls out?
honestly the next time you try it, whether it be tonight or 2 weeks time... if you do it... you have to commit to it. I know you know that.
I don't think it is from her paci falling out. She is not a paci addict like Frankie was.
She usually needs it to put herself to sleep and then spits it out (rather forcefully too when she is done! )
Funny - I was thinking to myself last night "must not go in, must commit, must commit", but she sure is the stubborn one!!
Maybe I will wait till Friday night to try again so I won't be a zombie at work like today!
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| Posted 1/20/11 3:37 PM |
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shapla79
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
I didn't start CIO that early, but when I did with DS he cried for 3 hours straight the first night. I felt horrible, but it got better and he was STTN within a week or so 
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mommyIam
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Does she have a lovey? Maybe introduce a lovey, its a great substitute for the softness of mommy. Especially if she's used to sleeping with you, your warmth and softness. And you may want to ... I don't know sleep with the lovey one night to get your smell on it. Just as added bonus.
How solid is the sleep routine? Does it make her drowsy?
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by mommyIam
Does she have a lovey? Maybe introduce a lovey, its a great substitute for the softness of mommy. Especially if she's used to sleeping with you, your warmth and softness. And you may want to ... I don't know sleep with the lovey one night to get your smell on it. Just as added bonus.
How solid is the sleep routine? Does it make her drowsy?
Her lovey is a small taggies blanket that she rubs on her face when she gets tired, but I only let her use it when she is in her bouncy. I am scared of her putting it over her face in her crib.
I also have the small blankets with the little stuffed animal heads but she never took to those.
It's not the initial falling asleep that I have a problem with. She falls asleep fine and sleeps well from 7:30 to anywhere between 2-4AM.
Once 2-4AM hit, she starts fussing.
I used to give her a bottle and she went right back down, but she slowly took less and less until we dropped it altogether, and would go down with just her binky until 7:30/8.
Now she fusses through from when she wakes in the middle of the night till 7AM. It's not all out hysterics, just constant fussing/whimpering. More complaining cries than hysterical cries.
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Kelly9904
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
not sure if this will work but someone gave me this advice...
Sleep with a blanket or somethign that you feel comfortable leaving in her crib at night. Sleep with it for a week then leave it in her crib. It might comfort her to smell you there even if you arent really there.
As a fellow CIO mom, yeah 2 hours is alot but especially if she wasnt in hysterics or throwing up, I think you should leave her.
45 minutes is not enough, as per the PP, for the more stubborn of kids (DS cried for 1hour 15 minutes his first night - and he was in hysterics) so I say wait until the weekend and just commit! You know she is fine, she is not hurt, or hungry, then let her fuss, she is learning how to comfort herslef!
GL!
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| Posted 1/20/11 4:33 PM |
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by Kelly9904
not sure if this will work but someone gave me this advice...
Sleep with a blanket or somethign that you feel comfortable leaving in her crib at night. Sleep with it for a week then leave it in her crib. It might comfort her to smell you there even if you arent really there.
As a fellow CIO mom, yeah 2 hours is alot but especially if she wasnt in hysterics or throwing up, I think you should leave her.
45 minutes is not enough, as per the PP, for the more stubborn of kids (DS cried for 1hour 15 minutes his first night - and he was in hysterics) so I say wait until the weekend and just commit! You know she is fine, she is not hurt, or hungry, then let her fuss, she is learning how to comfort herslef!
GL!
Thanks!
She has a bear that ties to her crib (so that she cannot pull it over her face). I will sleep with that till this weekend to get my scent on it and then try CIO again.
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mommyIam
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by jambalady
Now she fusses through from when she wakes in the middle of the night till 7AM. It's not all out hysterics, just constant fussing/whimpering. More complaining cries than hysterical cries.
I don't count this as CIO. I sleep trained DS through fussy cries at 3m. I never let him go for more than a few minutes with that, but he's been STTN ever since, and has no issues what so ever. In fact he plays in the crib quietly when he wakes up, and is a dream overall.
My guess, is that she's trying to figure stuff out, she's not crying because she needs you to figure it out for her.
How bad is the taggies? blanket, is it very dangerous? I would really consider leaving it in the crib for her to find when she's fussing. Or maybe keep trying to see if she's into a safer lovey? It will really help remind her that its time for sleep.
Also have you tried going in for intervals, that can work for some babies. It worked for mine, at 3m.
At 6m I had to do CIO for bedtime. Out of nowhere he refused to be a lone in his crib when I put him down, and only at bedtime. At 6m it took us 15 minutes. I think because of all the work we did at 3m to teach him to self soothe. Babies that need more time to CIO, IMO have never had an opportunity to learn to self soothe when they asked for it.
Please no drama, this is just my opinion. I think babies communicate with their cries, I think mommies should listen, and understand when they are wanted and when they aren't.
I don't think the advice "baby is not ready for CIO" is backed by any medical science. If it is please forward it to me. I'd really like to know. I just think I remember reading in Weissbluth HSHHC, that it may not work before 2 months. And yes I read fancy books and believe in science 
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jambalady
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by mommyIam
Posted by jambalady
Now she fusses through from when she wakes in the middle of the night till 7AM. It's not all out hysterics, just constant fussing/whimpering. More complaining cries than hysterical cries.
I don't count this as CIO. I sleep trained DS through fussy cries at 3m. I never let him go for more than a few minutes with that, but he's been STTN ever since, and has no issues what so ever. In fact he plays in the crib quietly when he wakes up, and is a dream overall.
My guess, is that she's trying to figure stuff out, she's not crying because she needs you to figure it out for her.
How bad is the taggies? blanket, is it very dangerous? I would really consider leaving it in the crib for her to find when she's fussing. Or maybe keep trying to see if she's into a safer lovey? It will really help remind her that its time for sleep.
Also have you tried going in for intervals, that can work for some babies. It worked for mine, at 3m.
At 6m I had to do CIO for bedtime. Out of nowhere he refused to be a lone in his crib when I put him down, and only at bedtime. At 6m it took us 15 minutes. I think because of all the work we did at 3m to teach him to self soothe. Babies that need more time to CIO, IMO have never had an opportunity to learn to self soothe when they asked for it.
Please no drama, this is just my opinion. I think babies communicate with their cries, I think mommies should listen, and understand when they are wanted and when they aren't.
I don't think the advice "baby is not ready for CIO" is backed by any medical science. If it is please forward it to me. I'd really like to know. I just think I remember reading in Weissbluth HSHHC, that it may not work before 2 months. And yes I read fancy books and believe in science
The taggies is is thick felt and big enough to completely cover her face (which is what she likes to do with it).
I will try her puppy that ties to her crib.
She definitely wants ME. She perks as soon as she hears the door and literally SMILES at me. each and every time. I rub her back or her head and she closes her eyes and relaxes. the second my hand comes off her body, her eyes pop open.
I'm not concerned about her age. I think she is ready.
I just hate that she is not sleeping for a full 4 hours in the early AM or at least getting good sleep, even if she is not in hysterics. She is definitely twisting and turning, trying to get herself to sleep, but just can't get there by herself yet.
I'm hoping the scent thing will help.
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Re: CIO Moms - crying for 2 hours straight?
Posted by jambalady
DS was also 5 mos when we did CIO.
The pediatrician okayed it for both of them at 4 months.
DD is only 2 weeks from 6 mos so it's not that far off. And she is definitely not hungry bc she will only take maybe an ounce or 2 if I feed her.
I started last night because for the past week or so she has been getting worse and worse with her sleep.
She went from waking 2-3x/night for her paci (and she would go right back to sleep), to every hour from 2AM on, to every 30 minutes, to every 15 minutes within a week.
I have no idea what is going on with her!
ETA: She is not sick. Happy as a clam during the day and otherwise a smiling, happy baby.
I dont think it matters what age your ped. Ok's CIO...it's what is best for you. She may be too young and not ready and 2 hours is too long to let an infant cry.
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