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sunnyflies
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cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
I need to remove our oil tank because I want to extend our house. How do I go about it? Have the oil in it pumped out? Then have it filled with foam to stableize it before being dug up? Anyone know? Also, what should it cost? Thanks.
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Posted 9/1/09 7:46 PM |
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snowflake08
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
i called 5 places last week I got prices ranging from 2300-3400
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Posted 9/1/09 8:49 PM |
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
My job sometimes involves overseeing residential tank removals - typically, an excavator will come out, remove the soil that is over the tank and put it on the side, have a vacuum truck come out to pump out any oil / sludge in the tank, then they'll cut the top open and clean it out. They'll then use the excavator to pull out the tank and then they'll inspect the tank and the base of the excavation for any evidence of leakage.
Of course, your experience could be different depending on the company you use and your yard's layout.
I usually don't see the prices that companies charge homeowners outside of insurance claims, so I'm not really sure how much it would cost. I would assume it would be $2000+ though.
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Posted 9/1/09 11:57 PM |
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kellsbells7
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
Posted by RammsteinNicCage
My job sometimes involves overseeing residential tank removals - typically, an excavator will come out, remove the soil that is over the tank and put it on the side, have a vacuum truck come out to pump out any oil / sludge in the tank, then they'll cut the top open and clean it out. They'll then use the excavator to pull out the tank and then they'll inspect the tank and the base of the excavation for any evidence of leakage.
Of course, your experience could be different depending on the company you use and your yard's layout.
I usually don't see the prices that companies charge homeowners outside of insurance claims, so I'm not really sure how much it would cost. I would assume it would be $2000+ though.
RNC - A question you then maybe know the answer to...
What happens if they DO find damage/evidence of possible leakage at the base of the tank?
Sorry to hijack, but had the very same question as you and this is the point I was at.
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Posted 9/2/09 12:21 AM |
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
If the contractor does find evidence of contamination to the soil or groundwater, they are required by law to report the spill to the NYSDEC.
At that point, check your homeowner's insurance to see what coverage you have for a leaking oil tank because the remediation will cost usually at least $5,000 and I've seen it go up to over $100,000+.
Chances are, your insurance company will have someone from an environmental company come out (this is what I do) to inspect the tank, assess the impact to the soil or groundwater, and possibly take a soil sample for age dating to determine if the spill began during the policy period. The insurance company that we do work for began issuing new endorsement policies a few years ago that began excluding some underground tank spills - basically, if your new endorsement policy took effect in 2004 and the age dating comes back as 2005, you will not be covered.
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Posted 9/2/09 10:31 AM |
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longislemom
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
my gf who sold her house (babylon) just did this and it was $2500.
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Posted 9/2/09 10:53 AM |
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
$2000-3000
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Posted 9/2/09 11:15 AM |
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ryeguy8585
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
Posted by RammsteinNicCage
If the contractor does find evidence of contamination to the soil or groundwater, they are required by law to report the spill to the NYSDEC.
From my research this part is not true. If you have it voluntarily and legally abandoned the tank the abandonment company is not required to report minor leakage.
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Posted 9/2/09 11:32 AM |
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sunnyflies
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
Thanks for responding, everyone. I am getting a better idea. Now I need to locate companies that do that sort of work, but who don't charge an arm and a leg.
Any suggestions?
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Posted 9/2/09 12:36 PM |
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
Posted by ryeguy8585
Posted by RammsteinNicCage
If the contractor does find evidence of contamination to the soil or groundwater, they are required by law to report the spill to the NYSDEC.
From my research this part is not true. If you have it voluntarily and legally abandoned the tank the abandonment company is not required to report minor leakage.
Abandonment and removal are two different things. Many times with an abandoned tank, the contents are pumped out and the tank is then filled with something (usually sand or foam).
As per the NYSDEC Spills Response Page :
What petroleum spills need to be reported?
All petroleum spills that occur within New York State (NYS) must be reported to the NYS Spill Hotline (1-800-457-7362) within 2 hours of discovery, except spills which meet all of the following criteria: - The quantity is known to be less than 5 gallons; and - The spill is contained and under the control of the spiller; and - The spill has not and will not reach the State's water or any land; and - The spill is cleaned up within 2 hours of discovery.
A spill is considered to have not impacted land if it occurs on a paved surface such as asphalt or concrete. A spill in a dirt or gravel parking lot is considered to have impacted land and is reportable.
So, basically, if there is any contamination to the subsurface, the contractor removing the tank is not going to know how much spilled out. Even what looks like the most minor spill can turn into a nightmare. So, the spill has to be reported. Besides, most of these guys will make more money on the remediation, so they have every incentive to report the spill.
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Posted 9/2/09 4:59 PM |
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snowflake08
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
I called 5 companies last week I was told by ALL of them, not to test the tank or soil
#! if you do a pressure test, it can cause a leak #2 if you do any test and there is a leak they are mandated to report it
they all recommended abandoning the tank and getting a new one without testing and opening a can of worms
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Posted 9/2/09 9:11 PM |
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
Yeah, there could be some sludge that's at the bottom of the tank that is creating a temporary plug in a hole and a pressure test could blow that out of the way.
And that is also correct - if it fails a pressure test but contamination is not yet visible, it does have to be reported to the DEC.
The one issue with abandoning the tank is that down the road, you may want to sell the house and you'll likely be required to remove the tank anyway. Many potential buyers will require that the tank is removed prior to buying so that they have no liability. Of course, down the road, there's a good chance that the law will change since underground petroleum tank restrictions are getting tougher and you'd have to remove it anyway.
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Posted 9/2/09 10:03 PM |
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sunnyflies
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Re: cost to dig up and remove 25 yr old oil tank
I have to remove mine. I can't abandon it as I had planned before, because I am planning an addition and it would be in the way.
I do think that down the road we are all going to have to remove them, so it may as well be now. I have one price, now I hope to get a few more.
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Posted 9/3/09 8:21 AM |
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