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Journey33
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Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
theres a form i have to fill out in preparation for LI IVF asking about cryopreservatioon-freeze or not freeze?
without starting drama... can you tell me how you arrived at your decision?
Im really struggling with this decision. Im worried about creating so many embryos (weird because thats what we hope for)
and then having to decide to freeze/donate/destroy.
If you're more comforatble please FM me.. noone IRL gets this because their really not faced with the decision.
Also, If I choose not to freeze, why did I already have to pay for it? 
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
I'd freeze for what may hopefully be a 2nd baby.
I actually never thought about what to do if we had like 5 extras after a 2nd child.
A friend just donated hers recently.
I get what you are saying b/c destroy sounds very harsh but donate is a little scary too because you don't know who is getting them and it's YOUR child.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
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I'd freeze for what may hopefully be a 2nd baby.
I actually never thought about what to do if we had like 5 extras after a 2nd child.
A friend just donated hers recently.
I get what you are saying b/c destroy sounds very harsh but donate is a little scary too because you don't know who is getting them and it's YOUR child.
Yeah, there's a few issues. 1 is what if I have like 10 embryos left to freeze. We dont want to have more than 3 children. So I still might end up with frozen with no intention of using it for myself. I don't want it destroyed...
And in donating to science, is that the same as it being ultimately destroyed? Should they all be given a chance at life? In doing that, we could donate to another couple anonymously and potentially have bioligical children in the world that we wouldnt know about.
Also, in freezing them for a later time, is that a hard decision for anyone else? To freeze an ambryo to thaw out and use later to create a human being?
Im not judging by any means because Im about to do this myself-but the concept is just bugging me lately.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
I would say absolutely freeze all!! IVF is not a guarantee and if you don't get pregnant, etc.. you'll be glad you have your frozen embryos there waiting for you.
And FET costs a lot less and is much less physically draining than a fresh cycle. When you are done having all your children, you can revisit what to do with your embryos. At this point without knowing how many embryos you will make and what the situation will be, I would without a doubt freeze whatever doesn't get transferred.
This isn't something you should be too worried about yet.. I had 30 follicles, 9 eggs, and just 4 that fertilized for my first IVF cycle. You just never know.. Also, if they do donate them it doesn't mean they donate them to a couple. Find out if they get donated to research. Again, at this point this is not something I'd be too concerned about.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Journey33
Also, in freezing them for a later time, is that a hard decision for anyone else? To freeze an ambryo to thaw out and use later to create a human being?
Im not judging by any means because Im about to do this myself-but the concept is just bugging me lately.
This is personally not an issue for me ... It's part of the wonderful world of assistive reproductive technology. I would weigh out how much that bothers you versus having to do another fresh cycle if it comes to that.
Good luck!
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
i think you are majorly overthinking this simply because you have no idea if your fresh IVF will work. if you have 10 embies, and your cycle is a bust, its much better to have to do an FET than another fresh. for all you know you may have 10 frosties and and exhaust all of them to make your family. although I hope that's not the case for you, its completely possible that A. have little or none to freeze, B. use all of your embies on 1 or 2 cycles to get your first baby, or C. use all of your embies to get the three kids you desire. honestly, IMO, your BEST case scenario in all of this is having to decide what to do with "leftover" embies.
freezing is like an insurance policy for your fresh IVF. IMO, and this is purely my own opinion, but it would be pretty silly NOT to freeze.
regardless of what you decide, good luck with your decision!!
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by PennyCat
Posted by Journey33
Also, in freezing them for a later time, is that a hard decision for anyone else? To freeze an ambryo to thaw out and use later to create a human being?
Im not judging by any means because Im about to do this myself-but the concept is just bugging me lately.
This is personally not an issue for me ... It's part of the wonderful world of assistive reproductive technology. I would weigh out how much that bothers you versus having to do another fresh cycle if it comes to that.
Good luck!
ITA. i have zero issue with using frosties. if you are at the point of doing an IVF, theres little difference between using your fresh embryos outside of your body, and using frozen embryos. i mean you really have to look at it like this - you can go through doing an IVF, and you have say 10 leftover embies.. is it worse to freeze for the future, or destroy them?! I mean technically you can try a mini-IVF and hope for very few embryos so that you don't have to make that decision but then theres always a risk that they are bad quality or dont fert or BFN cycle and then you have to start from scratch again.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
I absolutely would (and did) freeze. We had 14 embryos that we froze. Out of those 14, my last "batch" brought me my beautiful daughter. I do not have any more frozen embryos left over and so for my next I will have to start a fresh cycle, but like mentioned above, an FET is much easier on the body than a fresh cycle...
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Journey33
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by PennyCat
I would say absolutely freeze all!! IVF is not a guarantee and if you don't get pregnant, etc.. you'll be glad you have your frozen embryos there waiting for you.
And FET costs a lot less and is much less physically draining than a fresh cycle. When you are done having all your children, you can revisit what to do with your embryos. At this point without knowing how many embryos you will make and what the situation will be, I would without a doubt freeze whatever doesn't get transferred.
This isn't something you should be too worried about yet.. I had 30 follicles, 9 eggs, and just 4 that fertilized for my first IVF cycle. You just never know.. Also, if they do donate them it doesn't mean they donate them to a couple. Find out if they get donated to research. Again, at this point this is not something I'd be too concerned about.
I have t decide a, b or c.
a-discard
b-donate to science
c-donate to couple
I hear what you and FW are saying totally! I always overthink things.. I just wonder if maybe we should be trying to reduce the # of embryos we create so that we don't have to make that decision later. I will freeze whatever I have, definitely.. I just dont want to have extra to have decide on..
I realize I can't control any of this though.. I should know better by now lol
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Athee
I absolutely would (and did) freeze. We had 14 embryos that we froze. Out of those 14, my last "batch" brought me my beautiful daughter. I do not have any more frozen embryos left over and so for my next I will have to start a fresh cycle, but like mentioned above, an FET is much easier on the body than a fresh cycle... [/QUOTE
may I ask.. you had 14 frozen.. did you thaw thm all to trasnfer in one cycle? How did it result in your DD? Sorry.. still learning!
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Journey33
Posted by PennyCat
I would say absolutely freeze all!! IVF is not a guarantee and if you don't get pregnant, etc.. you'll be glad you have your frozen embryos there waiting for you.
And FET costs a lot less and is much less physically draining than a fresh cycle. When you are done having all your children, you can revisit what to do with your embryos. At this point without knowing how many embryos you will make and what the situation will be, I would without a doubt freeze whatever doesn't get transferred.
This isn't something you should be too worried about yet.. I had 30 follicles, 9 eggs, and just 4 that fertilized for my first IVF cycle. You just never know.. Also, if they do donate them it doesn't mean they donate them to a couple. Find out if they get donated to research. Again, at this point this is not something I'd be too concerned about.
I have t decide a, b or c.
a-discard
b-donate to science
c-donate to couple
I hear what you and FW are saying totally! I always overthink things.. I just wonder if maybe we should be trying to reduce the # of embryos we create so that we don't have to make that decision later. I will freeze whatever I have, definitely.. I just dont want to have extra to have decide on..
I realize I can't control any of this though.. I should know better by now lol
My honest opinion... I would not be presumptuous that you will make lots of embryos, so much that you will tell them to limit the amount you make. You just NEVER know what your egg quality will be like... For me, we learned lots of my follicles my first cycle didn't even HAVE eggs.. I'm not saying this to scare you, but just to remember that IVF is just as diagnostic as it is therapeutic. Since this is you first one, you can't predict what the outcome will be. The reality is, you could go in and produce 4 embryos like I did and then you will be glad you didn't try to 'limit' the amount you made! .. I'm not trying to be rude here, just honest! You just don't know enough yet to be drawing any conclusions...
Again, this is all just my opinion!!
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Journey33
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
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Posted by Journey33
Posted by PennyCat
I would say absolutely freeze all!! IVF is not a guarantee and if you don't get pregnant, etc.. you'll be glad you have your frozen embryos there waiting for you.
And FET costs a lot less and is much less physically draining than a fresh cycle. When you are done having all your children, you can revisit what to do with your embryos. At this point without knowing how many embryos you will make and what the situation will be, I would without a doubt freeze whatever doesn't get transferred.
This isn't something you should be too worried about yet.. I had 30 follicles, 9 eggs, and just 4 that fertilized for my first IVF cycle. You just never know.. Also, if they do donate them it doesn't mean they donate them to a couple. Find out if they get donated to research. Again, at this point this is not something I'd be too concerned about.
I have t decide a, b or c.
a-discard
b-donate to science
c-donate to couple
I hear what you and FW are saying totally! I always overthink things.. I just wonder if maybe we should be trying to reduce the # of embryos we create so that we don't have to make that decision later. I will freeze whatever I have, definitely.. I just dont want to have extra to have decide on..
I realize I can't control any of this though.. I should know better by now lol
My honest opinion... I would not be presumptuous that you will make lots of embryos, so much that you will tell them to limit the amount you make. You just NEVER know what your egg quality will be like... For me, we learned lots of my follicles my first cycle didn't even HAVE eggs.. I'm not saying this to scare you, but just to remember that IVF is just as diagnostic as it is therapeutic. Since this is you first one, you can't predict what the outcome will be. The reality is, you could go in and produce 4 embryos like I did and then you will be glad you didn't try to 'limit' the amount you made! .. I'm not trying to be rude here, just honest! You just don't know enough yet to be drawing any conclusions...
Again, this is all just my opinion!!
not taken rudely at all!! I appreciate the honesty. and our social worker used that same phrase thats its just as much diagnostic as it is theraputic. I struggle with the morality behind creting human life and discarding it. **DISCLAIMER** I do not think that those who freeze embryos and dont use them are creating human life for waste. THATS NOT what Im saying. Im saying I am struggling with coming to terms with how I feel about when life begins and taking control over when/if it ends.
you're totally right, we can learn a lot about my folicles and whether or not im making any eggs... if they are of good quality, etc. Its all a learning curve.
Im filling out the paperwork and it all just feels so final once we initial lol
I have to add again, that this post has only to do with MY thought rpocess. There is no judgement on anyone else's decisions. I have learned so much from you girls. But it is a very individual and personal decision.
i sincerely hope I havent offended anyone.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Journey33
not taken rudely at all!! I appreciate the honesty. and our social worker used that same phrase thats its just as much diagnostic as it is theraputic. I struggle with the morality behind creting human life and discarding it. **DISCLAIMER** I do not think that those who freeze embryos and dont use them are creating human life for waste. THATS NOT what Im saying. Im saying I am struggling with coming to terms with how I feel about when life begins and taking control over when/if it ends.
you're totally right, we can learn a lot about my folicles and whether or not im making any eggs... if they are of good quality, etc. Its all a learning curve.
Im filling out the paperwork and it all just feels so final once we initial lol
I have to add again, that this post has only to do with MY thought rpocess. There is no judgement on anyone else's decisions. I have learned so much from you girls. But it is a very individual and personal decision.
i sincerely hope I havent offended anyone.
on our IVF forms we had decide what to do with the embies as well, and also if we divorced what would happen to them. we didnt like the options given and discussed with the doctor and then addend the forms with our choice, which was decide in the future. IMO NO WAY we could make any of those decisions now.
so if you are struggling with these decisions being so final, then fill out the forms so that it isnt final. i dont think you should in any way inhibit your cycles potential because of these decisions. there's too much unknown, too much cost, and too much risk to do that IMO.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Definitely freeze and deal with the what-ifs later. If I have to destroy or donate to science my 3 frosties then that's just part of what I had to do to get my wonderful daughter. I will live with that decision even though I am somewhat uncomfortable with destroying life.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Great topic for discussion. DH and I also struggled with the issue of creating embryos now for future use...it's just weird to think about our children all coming from embryos that were fertilized at the same time, and then being born years apart.
In our case, we decided to donate any leftover embryos to science, once we are done having children. Personally, we couldn't live with the idea of our biological children walking around somewhere without us knowing. Additionally, I have a chromosomal issue, so there's a good chance a lot of my embies aren't good, but I'm hopeful that studying them will be useful in developing new IF treatments.
Best of luck with your decision.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Journey33
I struggle with the morality behind creting human life and discarding it.
I have HUGE moral issues with IVF. HUGE. And I struggle daily with the decisions I've made during my approaching-3 years of infertility. I spent a YEAR doing things the "Catholic" way (NaProTechnology) which didn't work out for me, so I ended up going against every moral I have, and turned to IVF.
That said, I think by NOT freezing your embryos, you're essentially destroying them (letting them die out) and not giving them any chance at life at all. One of the things I discussed with my doctor was that I DIDN'T want tons and tons of embryos, because I didn't want to have to face the decision of what to do with 10+ frozen potential children.
As "luck" had it, I never did make tons of follicles, and after my first IVF, I had none to freeze (ended in chemical) and then my 2nd IVF, we had 5 to freeze (ended in m/c at 10 weeks) and now I'm moving onto an FET with those 5. If, GOD WILLING, this FET is successful, I will have 3 frozens left ... and you bet I'll be giving them a chance one day. Just because that's what feels right to me. (and even though my doc says they're not the best quality)
I guess I'm sorta babbling here about my own stuff - but my point is - I think you're really smart and thoughtful for thinking all this through. The reality is, we all have our own morals and beliefs on this stuff, and what's right for me, won't necessarily be right for you, etc.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
are you religious? if so, would that help guide your decision?
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Journey33
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by InShock
Posted by Journey33
I struggle with the morality behind creting human life and discarding it.
I have HUGE moral issues with IVF. HUGE. And I struggle daily with the decisions I've made during my approaching-3 years of infertility. I spent a YEAR doing things the "Catholic" way (NaProTechnology) which didn't work out for me, so I ended up going against every moral I have, and turned to IVF.
That said, I think by NOT freezing your embryos, you're essentially destroying them (letting them die out) and not giving them any chance at life at all. One of the things I discussed with my doctor was that I DIDN'T want tons and tons of embryos, because I didn't want to have to face the decision of what to do with 10+ frozen potential children.
As "luck" had it, I never did make tons of follicles, and after my first IVF, I had none to freeze (ended in chemical) and then my 2nd IVF, we had 5 to freeze (ended in m/c at 10 weeks) and now I'm moving onto an FET with those 5. If, GOD WILLING, this FET is successful, I will have 3 frozens left ... and you bet I'll be giving them a chance one day. Just because that's what feels right to me. (and even though my doc says they're not the best quality)
I guess I'm sorta babbling here about my own stuff - but my point is - I think you're really smart and thoughtful for thinking all this through. The reality is, we all have our own morals and beliefs on this stuff, and what's right for me, won't necessarily be right for you, etc.
This!!! Exactly this!! And its funny because I was also brought up catholic. (DHh is jewish and has zero isssues with taking control of this process... though I think that has more to do with the fact thhat hes a guy) Im not going to get onto the topic of religion but I difinetly think its shaping my opinions on why I have such a hard time with doing IVF. Part of me feels "wrong" for taking it into my own hands and not trusting "the plan". but maybe this is actually the plan.
2 yrs of IF, and we're finally doing it. we will definitely freeze but when we're done bulding our family, then waht?? I think I really need to have a discussion with the Dr to discuss the potential of creating so many embryos. Yes a FET is certainly easier/less expensive but I need to be able to live with the decision. Right now Im struggling. In 10 years, I might laugh at this.
**edited to add that naprotechnology does not address male infertility, which is what we're dealing wtih (that we know of)
To FW, i LOVE the idea of altering the form. I just didn't think I had the option.. yet another thing to discuss with the Dr.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
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are you religious? if so, would that help guide your decision?[/QUOTE
im catholic.. disagree with much of the Roman catholic views but I do think that is what is guiding my inability to make the decision lol
At the end of the day, we're def doing it. It just took a really long time to get here and be ok with it. I do sometimes feel guilty though.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by Jax430
Great topic for discussion. DH and I also struggled with the issue of creating embryos now for future use...it's just weird to think about our children all coming from embryos that were fertilized at the same time, and then being born years apart.
I didnt even think of that but you're so right! What a concept!! but each egg/sperm are competely different so it would essentially be just like an entirely different time!
In our case, we decided to donate any leftover embryos to science, once we are done having children. Personally, we couldn't live with the idea of our biological children walking around somewhere without us knowing. Additionally, I have a chromosomal issue, so there's a good chance a lot of my embies aren't good, but I'm hopeful that studying them will be useful in developing new IF treatments.
Best of luck with your decision.
Thanks! I also always wondered if we donated to anotehr couple.. what if our children met and fell in love and didnt know they were related! 
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I know you don't want to get into the religious aspects of things but here are my 2 cents. I too was raised Catholic, in a VERY STRICT IRISH CATHOLIC household (or so I thought). I found out later in life that my parents weren't taking ANY chances after 2 kids and both got fixed! 
Anyway, as an adult I decided a few things about God (whether or not the church like my opinion, oh well). He is a busy guy. He created doctors to study science and medicine and to help him answer prayers. And if I am to believe what I was taught in church...God's will be done and God helps she who helps herself....then it was my responsibility to seek medical assistance and if it was meant to be it would happen. I never worried about extra embryos (as PP have said you never know how many you will get and you can have lots of frosties that don't make it once transferred) but took it one day, one procedure at a time and knew that God made us with free will and that at the end of the day I was confident in that living my life as a good person would be more prevailing in the end then if I adhered to some archaic ruling by a bunch of celibate men!!
And with that said, once we were done having kids, if we hade any frosties we would have donated them to science so that more doctors could help answer some more prayers.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
imo an embryo is not a "person" yet...its a potential one... it hasnt been put back into a woman with a chance to even implant yet. this is veryyyy debatable with many people so i do not want to create a dramatic discussion at all.
i was raised catholic but do not practice. i guess i could see what you are saying religion wise...but then again its a slippery slope with art technologies.
now if i had a bunch leftover i KNOW i would twinge a little bit but i never had that option bc i only make a couple eggs per cycle no matter what.
my only fear of donating would be a shakespearean tragedy of the donated embryo and any child i have physcially meeting one day and you know whating.. but thats just my twisted mind
imo i would NEVER try to limit how many follies i make on purpose.
like many posters wrote..then had tons of follies but only a few viable eggs. you just dont know until you try.
i wish you the best with your decision! xoxo
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by BaseballWidow
I know you don't want to get into the religious aspects of things but here are my 2 cents. I too was raised Catholic, in a VERY STRICT IRISH CATHOLIC household (or so I thought). I found out later in life that my parents weren't taking ANY chances after 2 kids and both got fixed!
Anyway, as an adult I decided a few things about God (whether or not the church like my opinion, oh well). He is a busy guy. He created doctors to study science and medicine and to help him answer prayers. And if I am to believe what I was taught in church...God's will be done and God helps she who helps herself....then it was my responsibility to seek medical assistance and if it was meant to be it would happen. I never worried about extra embryos (as PP have said you never know how many you will get and you can have lots of frosties that don't make it once transferred) but took it one day, one procedure at a time and knew that God made us with free will and that at the end of the day I was confident in that living my life as a good person would be more prevailing in the end then if I adhered to some archaic ruling by a bunch of celibate men!!
And with that said, once we were done having kids, if we hade any frosties we would have donated them to science so that more doctors could help answer some more prayers.[/QUOTE
Thank you so much for this.
<------also an Irish Catholic. Funny because my mom is like "make as many as you can!!"
You're right about.. if God didnt want us to have the option, there would be no doctors. This thread got a whole lot deeper than I expected lol
DH always says to me.. are you saying that if you had cancer, you wouldn't get medical assistance?? I dont really know waht the difference is, I just always felt that there was.
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
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Re: Cryopreservation-Im strruggling-no drama please!
Posted by BaseballWidow
I know you don't want to get into the religious aspects of things but here are my 2 cents. I too was raised Catholic, in a VERY STRICT IRISH CATHOLIC household (or so I thought). I found out later in life that my parents weren't taking ANY chances after 2 kids and both got fixed!
Anyway, as an adult I decided a few things about God (whether or not the church like my opinion, oh well). He is a busy guy. He created doctors to study science and medicine and to help him answer prayers. And if I am to believe what I was taught in church...God's will be done and God helps she who helps herself....then it was my responsibility to seek medical assistance and if it was meant to be it would happen. I never worried about extra embryos (as PP have said you never know how many you will get and you can have lots of frosties that don't make it once transferred) but took it one day, one procedure at a time and knew that God made us with free will and that at the end of the day I was confident in that living my life as a good person would be more prevailing in the end then if I adhered to some archaic ruling by a bunch of celibate men!!
And with that said, once we were done having kids, if we hade any frosties we would have donated them to science so that more doctors could help answer some more prayers.[/QUOTE
Sorry, to quote! I agree.
Science is what brought me here, Faith is keeping me here.
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