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MetsGirl07
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Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Deanna's Plan
Whether you are trying again after a miscarriage, or frustrated that you can't seem to get pregnant again after a successful pregnancy, this plan is for women who have gotten pregnant in the past, and therefore do not have significant infertility problems that need to be tested and treated. It is also a good plan to try for a first pregnancy if you want to do something serious to increase your chances before finally going in for a doctor visit about fertility.
Even if you have had an easy time getting pregnant in the past, pregnancy tends to change your hormonal makeup, so sometimes timing is not the same as it was before. This plan will ensure that sperm gets to your egg. Whether or not a viable pregnancy results (the odds are about 1 in 4 even if you time it right), is up to nature.
Be prepared for a month of serious loving!
The Plan
Short Version:
"Try" every other night starting Day 8 Buy 10 ovulation predictor kit sticks Begin ovulation testing on Day 10 When test is positive, "try" that night, plus two additional nights in a row Skip one night, then do one last "try" Take a home pregnancy test 15 days after your ovulation test was positive, if your period has not begun If your ovulation test never goes positive, continue "trying" every other night until Day 35, then do a pregnancy test if your period has not begun. Statistics coming in from women who write me show that about 40% of post-miscarriage women will get pregnant on the first try if they are faithful to the plan, about double the number of the normal population who are not on the plan. This assumes, of course, that you waited for a normal cycle to begin after your loss, and did not begin trying before having a period after a miscarriage. Many women do not ovulate in that first cycle.
Detailed Version:
On day 8 of your cycle, counting from the first day you bled, begin "trying" every other night. Begin taking Ovulation Predictor Kits (or continue with your Ovulation computer) on Day 10. Buy two five-packs so as not to scrimp on taking them and stop too early. To make sure your OPK is working well, take your test in the afternoon or after work and do not drink any liquids or go to the bathroom for at least four hours prior to testing. (Morning is not a good time for OPKs, which look for the LH surge, which usually happens during the day.) Read your OPK instructions carefully, as usually a faint line does not indicate a positive, you need a line that is darker than the test line. LH is produced throughout your cycle and will only predict ovulation when it has a big surge.
When your OPK turns positive, begin trying every night for three consecutive nights, skip the fourth night, and then once more. Then stop! The waiting begins.
Take a home pregnancy test 15 or 16 days after your OPK was positive if your period has not begun. Do not buy internet pregnancy tests or tests that claim to work before your period is expected. They are not well manufactured and are not reliable. They will only cause you more anxiety than you already feel in wanting to know. Please resist the urge to do a blood test at your doctor's office just to find out sooner unless you have a medical reason to know early. Fertilized eggs that do not grow are actually a terrible but normal occurrence as much as 75% of the time, and seeing a very low put positive blood test in the first 14 days can place you on a terrible emotional roller coaster. By the time a home pregnancy test is positive, your baby has safely implanted and your odds of miscarriage are down to a normal 10%.
Should your OPK never become positive, keep the every other day trying going until day 35. I recommend at that point taking a home pregnancy test, but even if it is negative, you might want to take a quantitative hCG blood test at your doctor's office. Remember that not every women will ovulate every month. I personally did not ovulate for two months following my first miscarriage.
As you are trying, make sure to "release" the sperm in your partner at least once during the gap between ovulation and new cycle Day 8 so that no more than 10 days elapse without new sperm production. Sperm is also a cause of genetic damage, not just eggs, so keep it fresh! If you are not successful the first month, it is not because your sperm did not get to your egg. 75% of eggs are lost within the first 14 days due to normal genetic damage or failure to fertilize. Just keep trying!
Here are a few facts that may surprise you:
Many books tell you that sperm can last for 5 days and the egg for 24 hours. While this is technically true on the very long end (and something to follow if you trying to NOT get pregnant), most sperm will only last about two hours if you do not have fertile-quality cervical mucus for it to swim in. The sperm will struggle to swim up to your uterus, use all its reserves, and not make it. The egg typically lives only about 12 hours, so it cannot wait for long. You can now see how important that cervical mucus is! You will never get pregnant with sperm living two hours and an egg only twelve. This information is really just to make you feel better if you've been trying a long time and all your infertility testing came back normal. If the Deanna-plan does not work and you are faithful to it for three months, take a dose of plain Robitussin cough syrup (or any cough medicine that says "expectorant" and NOT "antihistamine") each day (preferably a few hours prior to "trying") starting around Day 10 until the day after your ovulation predictor goes off. It should help make all the mucus in your body runnier, including that produced by your cervix. (Oh the gruesome details required in baby-making!) The sperm in the runnier mucus will live about two days, and will be up there and ready for the 12-hour life of the egg. A NOTE ABOUT CLOMID: Clomid causes cervical mucus to dry up in 25% of the women who take it. If you notice your mucus is not plentiful as it was before taking this drug, take the Robitussin and call your doctor to make sure your really need the Clomid. If you are ovulating on your own and do not have a documented luteal phase defect, you most likely do not need it. "Trying" too often can actually do more harm than good. Do not try every night! You will get exhausted and sore, and your mucus--both for fertility and for lubrication--will dry up, and you will stop trying too early in the month or miss an important day. Every other day is absolutely sufficient, with three nights in a row during peak time sealing the deal. Don't worry about stress! Regular old worries about getting pregnant, and if you will ever have children, are perfectly normal and do NOT affect your fertility. Ignore those people who tell you just to relax and stop thinking about it. This is not their problem! The only thing that could actually affect you is serious stress, like moving to a new house, losing your job, family deaths, and other things that make you physically ill or depressed. This can delay your ovulation, or make you not ovulate in a cycle, since you will produce an excess amount of the stress byproduct called prolactin. It will not affect you for long, and the next month you should come back and be normal again. An early period is not an indication of an early miscarriage, even if you know you timed your trying perfectly. Usually it means that the egg was not fertilizable, and so progesterone was not adequately produced. This shortens your cycle. Sometimes eggs simply don't develop properly during the ovulation process. It is usually a one-month problem. If you are regularly seeing that fewer than 10 days are passing between ovulation and your period, however, it's time to be tested for a luteal phase defect. You can read more about that under hormone causes of miscarriage.
Good luck to everyone. Baby dust, baby dust, baby dust!
Message edited 6/19/2008 6:27:04 PM
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Posted 11/13/08 2:27 PM |
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Maybe we can get this one pinned on the top with the other thread!
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Posted 11/13/08 2:38 PM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by MRSBA
Maybe we can get this one pinned on the top with the other thread!
lol... good idea!! the plan is becoming more popular i see!!
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Posted 11/13/08 2:42 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
cannot wait to try this month
dh better rest up
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Posted 11/13/08 2:43 PM |
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Linda1003
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
This may be a really stupid question.. but who is "Deanna" and how did she come up with this plan.
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Posted 11/13/08 2:50 PM |
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maybeamommy
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Just wanted to put this out there...
I prefer a "modified" Deanna's plan.
BD the day of the +OPK and the next three days... then you're done!
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Posted 11/13/08 2:54 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by maybeamommy
Just wanted to put this out there...
I prefer a "modified" Deanna's plan.
BD the day of the +OPK and the next three days... then you're done!
so do you mean that you do not BD starting at day 8, you BD starting with a + opk?
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Posted 11/13/08 2:56 PM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by Linda1003
This may be a really stupid question.. but who is "Deanna" and how did she come up with this plan.
it was me silly j/k..
here is the official website.. you can read about the REAL DEANNA's PLAN
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Posted 11/13/08 2:56 PM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by maybeamommy
Just wanted to put this out there...
I prefer a "modified" Deanna's plan.
BD the day of the +OPK and the next three days... then you're done!
so do you mean that you do not BD starting at day 8, you BD starting with a + opk?
you are really supposed to BD starting at CD8.. thats the plan as a WHOLE!!
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Posted 11/13/08 2:57 PM |
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Linda1003
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by MetsGirl07
Posted by Linda1003
This may be a really stupid question.. but who is "Deanna" and how did she come up with this plan.
it was me silly j/k..
here is the official website.. you can read about the REAL DEANNA's PLAN
was considering writing "It can't be Metsgirl can it!!!"
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Posted 11/13/08 2:57 PM |
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maybeamommy
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by maybeamommy
Just wanted to put this out there...
I prefer a "modified" Deanna's plan.
BD the day of the +OPK and the next three days... then you're done!
so do you mean that you do not BD starting at day 8, you BD starting with a + opk?
Sorry - I did mean BD every other day starting at CD 8 (for shorter cycles) or CD 10 (for longer cycles).
I'm just talking about what I prefer to do once I get the +OPK.
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Posted 11/13/08 2:57 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
I guess I don't understand the whole starting at CD 8 or 10, if you did not get a +opk. Let's say, I ovulate on CD15, what is BD on cd 8 or 10 or 12 for that matter going to do?
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Posted 11/13/08 3:06 PM |
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maybeamommy
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Well the sperm can live for 5 days in an ideal environment...
Also, you don't want to abstain for too long because you want to get rid of the "old" sperm...
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Posted 11/13/08 3:09 PM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by Mikismom
I guess I don't understand the whole starting at CD 8 or 10, if you did not get a +opk. Let's say, I ovulate on CD15, what is BD on cd 8 or 10 or 12 for that matter going to do?
its because the sperm can last up to 5 days.. so basically if you get a + on CD 12 or 13.. you can possibly conceive from CD8 or 10..
did i confuse you
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Posted 11/13/08 3:10 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by maybeamommy
Well the sperm can live for 5 days in an ideal environment...
Also, you don't want to abstain for too long because you want to get rid of the "old" sperm...
gotcha, thanks
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Posted 11/13/08 3:12 PM |
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BlueDiamonds
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
also, some studies have shown that the days leading up to ovulation are just as important for BDing as the ovulation day itself.
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Posted 11/13/08 4:36 PM |
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smdl
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by maybeamommy
Well the sperm can live for 5 days in an ideal environment...
Also, you don't want to abstain for too long because you want to get rid of the "old" sperm...
gotcha, thanks
A lot of people BD for O then give up the rest of the month and start again with old sperm to O again the following month. Sperm should never be more than 1 week old. But you don't want to depleate all the sperm by BD every day (which DH and I did!!!! ) so it's every other day until you get a OPK+ then it's 3 days BD in a row.
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Posted 11/13/08 6:26 PM |
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lolipep
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
wow I just read through this sound interesting -- So it's Deanna's plan for me next month if need be
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Posted 11/13/08 6:32 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by smdl
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by maybeamommy
Well the sperm can live for 5 days in an ideal environment...
Also, you don't want to abstain for too long because you want to get rid of the "old" sperm...
gotcha, thanks
A lot of people BD for O then give up the rest of the month and start again with old sperm to O again the following month. Sperm should never be more than 1 week old. But you don't want to depleate all the sperm by BD every day (which DH and I did!!!! ) so it's every other day until you get a OPK+ then it's 3 days BD in a row.
I am going to be spent....
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Posted 11/13/08 8:24 PM |
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TCOMF09
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
Posted by maybeamommy
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by maybeamommy
Just wanted to put this out there...
I prefer a "modified" Deanna's plan.
BD the day of the +OPK and the next three days... then you're done!
so do you mean that you do not BD starting at day 8, you BD starting with a + opk?
Sorry - I did mean BD every other day starting at CD 8 (for shorter cycles) or CD 10 (for longer cycles).
I'm just talking about what I prefer to do once I get the +OPK.
I'm with you. DH & I did Deanna's Plan one cycle. We were exhausted & cranky
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Posted 11/16/08 5:48 PM |
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ArmyOfBabies
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
My cycles lately are almost double the days of a normal cycle, so how would I modify the plan? I'd be up to my eyeballs in OPK
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Posted 11/16/08 7:30 PM |
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Tine73
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
I'm still waiting for AF - I'm CD35, but we'll try this after she shows up!
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Posted 11/16/08 9:44 PM |
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jea128
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
We just did this plan this month, I'm only on CD21 so I still have a little while till I can test, but I'll let you know if it worked for us.
But, DH and I were exhausted with this plan. If it didn't happen for me this month, I don't know if I can do this plan again another month.
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Posted 11/16/08 10:05 PM |
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Linda1003
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
BUMPED FOR GABBIE
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Posted 11/17/08 8:54 AM |
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gabbie83
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Re: Deanna's Plan....... a new thread!!
i am trying this plan this month!!!
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Posted 11/17/08 9:04 AM |
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