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Songwriter76
LIF Adult
Member since 4/08 902 total posts
Name:
David
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Dear Senator Obama...
I was a huge supporter of yours until I noticed that you (as well as Senator McCain) voted in favor of this bailout. How can you claim to be an agent of change and allow this bill to be passed with hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks? Did you think the American people wouldn't notice?
And please don't tell me that this was the lesser of two evils. If you really wanted "change" you would have showed some leadership and spoke on the floor about how you will protect the American people from having to spend millions of dollars on Auto Racing Tracks, Imported Rum and Arrows for Boy Scouts in Oregon.
You are not an agent of change. You are just like everyone else.
I will be voting for Nader...like I did in 2000.
Message edited 10/2/2008 6:04:59 PM.
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donegal419
St. Gerard, pray for us.
Member since 7/07 7650 total posts
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K
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by Songwriter76
You are not an agent of change. You are just like everyone else.
yep... they're all the same products of our crappy political system! I nearly PUKED when i heard almost $100 million of ADDITIONAL money in earmarks were added to this bill. these Senators wouldn't vote for the bill until they get what they wanted. absolutely disgusting! and we wonder why nothing gets done in Washington? It's because they're all too busy scratching each other's backs!
i wish there was a puke icon on LIF.
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| Posted 10/2/08 6:26 PM |
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Kidsaplenty
Sister love
Member since 2/06 5971 total posts
Name:
Stephanie
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
I'm voting Nader. Neither of the main candidates give a crap about what the people want.
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| Posted 10/2/08 6:49 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
both candidates disgust me! one will be president, but I will vote for neither.
 poiliticians suck
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| Posted 10/2/08 7:31 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by greeneyes361708
I'm voting Nader. Neither of the main candidates give a crap about what the people want.
EXACTLY
I have been saying this for many years. all politicians care about is self preservation.
eta: it is my understanding that its 150 BILLION in additional spending, not 100 million. 
Message edited 10/2/2008 7:34:05 PM.
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| Posted 10/2/08 7:32 PM |
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Phyl
R.I.P. Sweet Mia ♥
Member since 5/06 28918 total posts
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The Mystical Azzhorse! ™
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Finally a thread I can get on board with!
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| Posted 10/2/08 7:33 PM |
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Amen to that!
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| Posted 10/2/08 7:46 PM |
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Kidsaplenty
Sister love
Member since 2/06 5971 total posts
Name:
Stephanie
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
They're just pi$$ing away money.
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| Posted 10/2/08 7:55 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by greeneyes361708
They're just pi$$ing away money.
here is some more info on the additional spending
because 700 billion I guess was just not enough! stupid *( &^%ers
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| Posted 10/2/08 8:00 PM |
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organichic
LIF Adult
Member since 9/08 2223 total posts
Name:
Lauren
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
All politicians S@ck! I really wish our country could take 3rd party politicians seriously! Nader is awesome.. My DH and I heard him speak two years ago and he was so down to earth and intelligent!
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| Posted 10/2/08 8:07 PM |
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Mommy2Boys
My Boys!!!!
Member since 6/06 14437 total posts
Name:
C
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
This "bailout" is nothing but a bandaid...the problem is still going to exist. They are hoping by pumping more $$$ into the economy it is going to work but it most likely will not. Our economy will still get back to this point eventually and we will have to pay the price regardless. There are other options but they want a quick fix. Supposably our economy was going to collapse without this $700 billion dollars yet our economy is still functioning 3 weeks later.
The truth is we are no where near a depression. For the economy to go into a depression you need a 20% unemployment rate. Our unemployment rate is held steady at 6-7%.
Aslo regarding the housing bailout...only 7% of sub-prime loans are in default...they make it seem like it is a far greater number.
People are panicking b/c of the news media. Unfortunately, many people dont question the media and what it reports and really look into the facts. As educated of a country we are supposed to be, many are not educated on the important topics.
Here is an article which itemizes what the $700 BIL is going towards:
On Wednesday evening, October 1, 2008, the Senate debated and voted on a revised version of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (EESA 2008). The legislation was framed as an amendment to HR1424, substituting the entire bill with the newly revised text of the EESA 2008.[5][6][129] The amendment was approved by a 74-25 vote, and the entire bill was also passed by the same margin, 74-25.[130][131] Only cancer-stricken Senator Ted Kennedy did not vote. Under the legislative rule for the bill, sixty votes were required to approve the amendment and the bill.[6][128][129]
The revised plan left the $700 billion bailout intact and appended a stalled tax bill.[128] The bill has three major divisions, Division A: the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008; Division B: Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008, and Division C: the Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008.[4] The tax bill has provisions that will have a net expenditure of $100 billion over 10 years. It had been stalled due to a disagreement between Democrats that did not want to increase spending without a corresponding increase in taxes and Republicans, who were adamantly opposed to any tax increases. The provisions of the tax bill included: [132][128][6]
An increase in FDIC deposit insurance limit from $100,000 to $250,000
Tax breaks for businesses
Tax credits for the use of alternative energy
Tax credits for R&D
Expansion of the child tax credit
Protection from the alternative minimum tax
Tax reductions for victims of severe weather (e.g. tornados, floods, hurricanes)
Extension of unemployment insurance
A USD $1,000 tax credit for low income homeowners
Tax breaks and credit extensions for the following:
"Certain wooden arrows designed for use by children" (Sec 503)
Wool Research (Sec. 325)
Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
Litigants in the 1989 Exxon-Valdez oil spill (Sec. 504)
Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
American Samoa (Sec. 309)
Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
Railroads (Sec. 316)
Auto Racing Tracks (317)
District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
A House leader accused the Senate of legislating “by blunt force” without public-consent.[133] Senate has also been accused of “sweetening” the bailout to force its passage by the opposing House.[11][134]
The United States annual budget deficit for Fiscal 2009 may surpass $1 trillion. The original Paulson proposal would lift the United States federal debt ceiling by US$ 700 billion, to $11.3 trillion from the current $10.6 trillion.[135]
ETA: I would say our economy is in a recession. The main reason we are here is b/c people overused credit b/c the banks handed out credit like it was candy.
Message edited 10/2/2008 9:02:48 PM.
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| Posted 10/2/08 8:57 PM |
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Sandy55
My family ROCKS!!!
Member since 2/08 1219 total posts
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Sandy
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
This is why I'm voting for MrsPJB2007's cat, Lucky.
Politicians are liars and full of CRAPP!
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| Posted 10/2/08 10:03 PM |
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MrsPJB2007
MBA at your service!
Member since 7/06 12020 total posts
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MJ
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by Sandy55
This is why I'm voting for MrsPJB2007's cat, Lucky.
Politicians are liars and full of CRAPP!
hahaha!
seriously how will this guy NOT run the country right!
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| Posted 10/2/08 10:07 PM |
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MrsRivera
2 under 2...whew!!
Member since 2/07 9876 total posts
Name:
Beth
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by MrsPJB2007
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Ahhhh that takes me right back to the Clinton era 
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| Posted 10/2/08 10:09 PM |
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doormouse
LIF Infant
Member since 5/05 155 total posts
Name:
Jen
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
I wish Mike Bloomberg could run for president as an independent and actually have a shot at winning.
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| Posted 10/2/08 10:19 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by doormouse
I wish Mike Bloomberg could run for president as an independent and actually have a shot at winning.
yea - that would be interesting
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by Sandy55
This is why I'm voting for MrsPJB2007's cat, Lucky.
Politicians are liars and full of CRAPP!
hahaha!
seriously how will this guy NOT run the country right!
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If you're interested, I have a running mate for VP 
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| Posted 10/3/08 7:29 AM |
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sunnyplus3
:)
Member since 11/05 8749 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
What really sucks is that our vote here in NY really doesn't matter. With today's technology the national vote should be calculated by voter popularity not delegates that are based on old news & antiquated ideas.
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| Posted 10/3/08 7:39 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by KellyFG
What really sucks is that our vote here in NY really doesn't matter. With today's technology the national vote should be calculated by voter popularity not delegates that are based on old news & antiquated ideas.
I disagree with this. the electoral college was put in place to ensure that less populated states like SD would have fair say like more populated ones do.
Message edited 10/3/2008 4:02:18 PM.
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:01 PM |
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dandr10199
Grace is growing up too fast!
Member since 10/05 11561 total posts
Name:
Dina
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by Sandy55
This is why I'm voting for MrsPJB2007's cat, Lucky.
Politicians are liars and full of CRAPP!
hahaha!
seriously how will this guy NOT run the country right!
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Rob's Nana will give him a run for his money!
Let's have a Lucky vs. Nana debate!!!!
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:04 PM |
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PreshusSmurf
So in love with my little guys
Member since 1/07 2963 total posts
Name:
Jess
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by donegal419
i wish there was a puke icon on LIF.
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:07 PM |
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Luv2bAmom
LIF Adult
Member since 2/08 1255 total posts
Name:
J
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by KellyFG
What really sucks is that our vote here in NY really doesn't matter. With today's technology the national vote should be calculated by voter popularity not delegates that are based on old news & antiquated ideas.
I don't understand why you think your votedoes not counts?
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:07 PM |
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leighdvm
My golden boys!
Member since 3/06 4419 total posts
Name:
Michele
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by jellybean1420
The provisions of the tax bill included: [132][128][6]
An increase in FDIC deposit insurance limit from $100,000 to $250,000
Tax breaks for businesses
Tax credits for the use of alternative energy
Tax credits for R&D
Expansion of the child tax credit
Protection from the alternative minimum tax
Tax reductions for victims of severe weather (e.g. tornados, floods, hurricanes)
Extension of unemployment insurance
A USD $1,000 tax credit for low income homeowners
Tax breaks and credit extensions for the following:
"Certain wooden arrows designed for use by children" (Sec 503)
Wool Research (Sec. 325)
Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
Litigants in the 1989 Exxon-Valdez oil spill (Sec. 504)
Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
American Samoa (Sec. 309)
Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
Railroads (Sec. 316)
Auto Racing Tracks (317)
District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
A House leader accused the Senate of legislating “by blunt force” without public-consent.[133] Senate has also been accused of “sweetening” the bailout to force its passage by the opposing House.[11][134]
I don't understand why they need money for some of these things???!!! Auto-racing tracks? Really??
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:14 PM |
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mrsej
The cutest!
Member since 1/07 2495 total posts
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Mommy
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by Luv2bAmom
Posted by KellyFG
What really sucks is that our vote here in NY really doesn't matter. With today's technology the national vote should be calculated by voter popularity not delegates that are based on old news & antiquated ideas.
I don't understand why you think your votedoes not counts?
I think, and I may be wrong, that the poster meant that it will be no contest as to which candidate will take NY
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| Posted 10/3/08 4:17 PM |
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sunnyplus3
:)
Member since 11/05 8749 total posts
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Re: Dear Senator Obama...
Posted by mrsej
Posted by Luv2bAmom
Posted by KellyFG
What really sucks is that our vote here in NY really doesn't matter. With today's technology the national vote should be calculated by voter popularity not delegates that are based on old news & antiquated ideas.
I don't understand why you think your votedoes not counts?
I think, and I may be wrong, that the poster meant that it will be no contest as to which candidate will take NY
exactly. I think it blows that this great land of ours only has a few states that can truly be swayed one way or the other.
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