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DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
sorry I'm clueless is this a meeting or event that they have? either way, I am really curious to see what he says. The only way to end this is really for him to get up and apologize and pledge his support for the NYPD
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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sorry I'm clueless is this a meeting or event that they have? either way, I am really curious to see what he says. The only way to end this is really for him to get up and apologize and pledge his support for the NYPD
What does he have to apologize for?
For saying things like this?
You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It's illegal, it's wrong, it's immoral. (12/17)
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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sorry I'm clueless is this a meeting or event that they have? either way, I am really curious to see what he says. The only way to end this is really for him to get up and apologize and pledge his support for the NYPD
What does he have to apologize for?
For saying things like this?
You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It's illegal, it's wrong, it's immoral. (12/17)
Its my opinion but I think that when they were chanting for dead cops, he should have shut that down.
And when he mentioned the comments to his son, if thats his opinion fine but leave that home- you are running a city and that did nothing to quell the storm.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by Pray4Baby2010
sorry I'm clueless is this a meeting or event that they have? either way, I am really curious to see what he says. The only way to end this is really for him to get up and apologize and pledge his support for the NYPD
What does he have to apologize for?
For saying things like this?
You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It's illegal, it's wrong, it's immoral. (12/17)
Its my opinion but I think that when they were chanting for dead cops, he should have shut that down.
And when he mentioned the comments to his son, if thats his opinion fine but leave that home- you are running a city and that did nothing to quell the storm.
ITA on both counts! He can say the above statement, sounds great (and of course I agree), but his silence during these disgusting chants in the faces of these officers speaks volumes.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
I'm not going to comment personally/specifically on this matter - like I didn't in the previous post. But rather occasionally post either an article or a statement that I feel is important for people to see, and that echoes my feelings...
My brother's PBA President, in Nassau County, released this statement...
Nassau County PBA
NASSAU COUNTY PBA STATEMENT REGARDING THE MURDER OF TWO NYPD OFFICERS YESTERDAY
MINEOLA, NY (December 21, 2014) -
Nassau County Police PBA President James Carver has released the following statement:
“The assassination of Officers Wen Jian Liu, a seven year veteran of the force, and Officer Rafael Ramos is a horrific and horrendous act. This kind of violence against police officers cannot be tolerated or forgotten across the nation. Our officers risk their lives everyday. My heartfelt sympathies and condolences goes out to the officer's families and all the members of the NYPD.
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday."
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by DaniRella
I'm not going to comment personally/specifically on this matter - like I didn't in the previous post. But rather occasionally post either an article or a statement that I feel is important for people to see, and that echoes my feelings...
My brother's PBA President, in Nassau County, released this statement...
Nassau County PBA
NASSAU COUNTY PBA STATEMENT REGARDING THE MURDER OF TWO NYPD OFFICERS YESTERDAY
MINEOLA, NY (December 21, 2014) -
Nassau County Police PBA President James Carver has released the following statement:
“The assassination of Officers Wen Jian Liu, a seven year veteran of the force, and Officer Rafael Ramos is a horrific and horrendous act. This kind of violence against police officers cannot be tolerated or forgotten across the nation. Our officers risk their lives everyday. My heartfelt sympathies and condolences goes out to the officer's families and all the members of the NYPD.
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday."
Here is part of the statement from the PBA
'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'
This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.
There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
Here is part of the statement from the PBA
'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'
This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.
There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.
Excuse me. If you could kindly refer to WHICH PBA you are referencing above, that would be great.
I referenced that I was quoting the NASSAU PBA, the President released a statement...
If you are now going to quote another President, or PBA, perhaps NYPD? Then absolutely you need to clarify WHO made those remarks, WHO you are quoting, when that was, a source, and which PBA it is... Because the way in which you quoted what I wrote made it sound like it was an addition of what James Carver released as a statement and it MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT. At least, that's how I took it and several of my coworkers did also.
Yeah I'd appreciate that.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
The Nassau PBA said -
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday.
Patrick Lynch made the comments I posted above. The PBA backtracked and put out a more whitewashed statement.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by cj7305
Posted by Pray4Baby2010
Posted by JME78
Posted by Pray4Baby2010
sorry I'm clueless is this a meeting or event that they have? either way, I am really curious to see what he says. The only way to end this is really for him to get up and apologize and pledge his support for the NYPD
What does he have to apologize for?
For saying things like this?
You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It's illegal, it's wrong, it's immoral. (12/17)
Its my opinion but I think that when they were chanting for dead cops, he should have shut that down.
And when he mentioned the comments to his son, if thats his opinion fine but leave that home- you are running a city and that did nothing to quell the storm.
ITA on both counts! He can say the above statement, sounds great (and of course I agree), but his silence during these disgusting chants in the faces of these officers speaks volumes.
ITA.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
The Nassau PBA said -
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday.
Patrick Lynch made the comments I posted above. The PBA backtracked and put out a more whitewashed statement.
OK. That's what I figured but it most certainly needed to be clarified.
I never read or heard the original statement from President Lynch of the NYPD that you are referencing here - you are now stating it was "backtracked"... Does that mean you don't have it to post, a link that shares it, or a way to let us see it? Was it "taken away"?
Because I did not hear or read that quote.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
Posted by DaniRella
I'm not going to comment personally/specifically on this matter - like I didn't in the previous post. But rather occasionally post either an article or a statement that I feel is important for people to see, and that echoes my feelings...
My brother's PBA President, in Nassau County, released this statement...
Nassau County PBA
NASSAU COUNTY PBA STATEMENT REGARDING THE MURDER OF TWO NYPD OFFICERS YESTERDAY
MINEOLA, NY (December 21, 2014) -
Nassau County Police PBA President James Carver has released the following statement:
“The assassination of Officers Wen Jian Liu, a seven year veteran of the force, and Officer Rafael Ramos is a horrific and horrendous act. This kind of violence against police officers cannot be tolerated or forgotten across the nation. Our officers risk their lives everyday. My heartfelt sympathies and condolences goes out to the officer's families and all the members of the NYPD.
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday."
Here is part of the statement from the PBA
'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'
This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.
There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.
Fear and disrespect are two very different things.
Fear is not what these people have in their minds. Blatant disrespect and disregard for the law and those that uphold it is what they have.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
I understand that. I just wanted to share in case you were interested in understanding the officers' view.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by cowgirlkate
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
I understand that. I just wanted to share in case you were interested in understanding the officers' view.
Just realized you probably thought I was responding to you. Just my random thoughts on the subject in general.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by JME78
Posted by DaniRella
I'm not going to comment personally/specifically on this matter - like I didn't in the previous post. But rather occasionally post either an article or a statement that I feel is important for people to see, and that echoes my feelings...
My brother's PBA President, in Nassau County, released this statement...
Nassau County PBA
NASSAU COUNTY PBA STATEMENT REGARDING THE MURDER OF TWO NYPD OFFICERS YESTERDAY
MINEOLA, NY (December 21, 2014) -
Nassau County Police PBA President James Carver has released the following statement:
“The assassination of Officers Wen Jian Liu, a seven year veteran of the force, and Officer Rafael Ramos is a horrific and horrendous act. This kind of violence against police officers cannot be tolerated or forgotten across the nation. Our officers risk their lives everyday. My heartfelt sympathies and condolences goes out to the officer's families and all the members of the NYPD.
We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday."
Here is part of the statement from the PBA
'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'
This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.
There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.
Fear and disrespect are two very different things.
Fear is not what these people have in their minds. Blatant disrespect and disregard for the law and those that uphold it is what they have.
BAM.
They have DISRESPECT, NOT fear. If they had fear, they would have respected, and therefore would be ALIVE today.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe. Do we allow our children to take control of us, scream at us, spit at us, disrespect us, chant at us, etc, break our possessions, etc, when we try to reprimand them?
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
Here is part of the statement from the PBA
'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'
This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.
There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.
Not sure who you are referring to as the "general public" but this member of the "general public" has in no way "come to fear" the police, in any way at all
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
Chanting about wanting dead cops is NOT PEACEFUL! Assaulting cops on the Brooklyn bridge was NOT PEACEFUL! De blasio is a fool for letting that happen and not coming forward to do something and not speaking when he saw these events. I was never a huge fan of Guiliani until I read his recent comments and I believe that he never would have let this happen. Who, as a mayor of any city , let alone a major city like NY ,lets protesters take over a bridge? And chant about killing cops and then assaulting them. By law you cannot even block traffic during a protest but this was the least of things.Officers have been getting abused at these "peaceful" protests for weeks, being spit on, having people scream in their faces and then the Brooklyn bridge protest.
Goobster, you said exactly what my husband and I were discussing. That De blasio let the inmates run the asylum!
That is exactly what he did. It's becoming just like many years ago when the city was out of control.
I remember in July when the Garner story first broke. It was never initially about race. Garner's parents going to Ferguson a few weeks later to "comfort" Michael Brown's were when this story became about race. By De blasio making comments about his son and the cops that's when De blasio turned the Garner situation into a race issue which was not the way to help NY when the powder keg had already started growing. He fanned the flames when things were becoming volatile instead of calming the public and backing the NYPD. I mean he backed the NYPD back in the spring when he had them racing to get him to events on time and breaking speed limits and blowing stop signs(at his doing I'm sure since he's habitually late), but now he is afraid for his son ??? And how is this about race when an African American lieutenant was at the scene overseeing the arrest?
And de Blasio then downplaying Garner's crime when he was behind the scenes filling an untaxed cigarette suit the week of the decision shows me that he is also a two faced sneak!!
http://nypost.com/2014/12/16/de-blasio-quietly-filed-untaxed-cig-suit-the-week-of-garner-decision/
Eta - I cannot get the link to post. Maybe someone can please repost it for me? I think it says a lot about de blasio and how he at the very least talks out of both sides of his mouth.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by JME78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
Actually yes! There were reports of him in union square protesting on dec 1.. He then took video of him protesting n put it on instragram. He has ties to the ny area n grew up in brooklyn.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Summergirl
Posted by JME78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by sometimesmommy
Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
Chanting about wanting dead cops is NOT PEACEFUL! Assaulting cops on the Brooklyn bridge was NOT PEACEFUL! De blasio is a fool for letting that happen and not coming forward to do something and not speaking when he saw these events. I was never a huge fan of Guiliani until I read his recent comments and I believe that he never would have let this happen. Who, as a mayor of any city , let alone a major city like NY ,lets protesters take over a bridge? And chant about killing cops and then assaulting them. By law you cannot even block traffic during a protest but this was the least of things.Officers have been getting abused at these "peaceful" protests for weeks, being spit on, having people scream in their faces and then the Brooklyn bridge protest.
Goobster, you said exactly what my husband and I were discussing. That De blasio let the inmates run the asylum!
That is exactly what he did. It's becoming just like many years ago when the city was out of control.
I remember in July when the Garner story first broke. It was never initially about race. Garner's parents going to Ferguson a few weeks later to "comfort" Michael Brown's were when this story became about race. By De blasio making comments about his son and the cops that's when De blasio turned the Garner situation into a race issue which was not the way to help NY when the powder keg had already started growing. He fanned the flames when things were becoming volatile instead of calming the public and backing the NYPD. I mean he backed the NYPD back in the spring when he had them racing to get him to events on time and breaking speed limits and blowing stop signs(at his doing I'm sure since he's habitually late), but now he is afraid for his son ??? And how is this about race when an African American lieutenant was at the scene overseeing the arrest?
And de Blasio then downplaying Garner's crime when he was behind the scenes filling an untaxed cigarette suit the week of the decision shows me that he is also a two faced sneak!!
http://nypost.com/2014/12/16/de-blasio-quietly-filed-untaxed-cig-suit-the-week-of-garner-decision/
Eta - I cannot get the link to post. Maybe someone can please repost it for me? I think it says a lot about de blasio and how he at the very least talks out of both sides of his mouth.
 thank you Summergirl!
I'm still trying to figure out how I missed the memo that as a law abiding citizen of the general public, I'm supposed to fear the police...Police put their lives on the line daily for the safety of the general public. And they must be doing an excellent job if people feel so safe that they seemingly forgot what we need to actually fear in society (hint: it's not the police.)
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| Posted 12/22/14 11:41 PM |
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BlessedMomma
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by Goobster
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NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
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Chanting what do we want dead cops! When do we want it now! Is peaceful to you???? Punching cops? Taunting them? Attacking them? Shutting down streets and bridges?
You cannot be so.naive to think that all of the comments from obama and eric holder to deblasio to all these protests had no effect on this individual to do what he did??
Did you not see his tweets prior to commiting the crime???
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| Posted 12/23/14 12:37 AM |
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by BlessedMomma
Chanting what do we want dead cops! When do we want it now! Is peaceful to you???? Punching cops? Taunting them? Attacking them? Shutting down streets and bridges?
You cannot be so.naive to think that all of the comments from obama and eric holder to deblasio to all these protests had no effect on this individual to do what he did??
Did you not see his tweets prior to commiting the crime???
Actually, this guy had a long history of anti-government sentiment on social media, pre-dating the recent protests. He was a seriously mentally disturbed individual who merely used what is happening in NYC as an excuse to kill police officers. He didn't kill them BECAUSE of what Obama etc said. His own family has come forward to say that his actions had nothing to do with anything other than his mental illness. I saw an interview with his sister where she said that even his own mother was afraid of him.
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