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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Chanting what do we want dead cops! When do we want it now! Is peaceful to you???? Punching cops? Taunting them? Attacking them? Shutting down streets and bridges?
You cannot be so.naive to think that all of the comments from obama and eric holder to deblasio to all these protests had no effect on this individual to do what he did??
Did you not see his tweets prior to commiting the crime???
Actually, this guy had a long history of anti-government sentiment on social media, pre-dating the recent protests. He was a seriously mentally disturbed individual who merely used what is happening in NYC as an excuse to kill police officers. He didn't kill them BECAUSE of what Obama etc said. His own family has come forward to say that his actions had nothing to do with anything other than his mental illness. I saw an interview with his sister where she said that even his own mother was afraid of him.
While his history is true, he finally snapped and based on his own words and the timing, the attack on police from these protestors and riots absolutely RILED him up to finally take action. NO?
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by BlessedMomma
Chanting what do we want dead cops! When do we want it now! Is peaceful to you???? Punching cops? Taunting them? Attacking them? Shutting down streets and bridges?
You cannot be so.naive to think that all of the comments from obama and eric holder to deblasio to all these protests had no effect on this individual to do what he did??
Did you not see his tweets prior to commiting the crime???
Actually, this guy had a long history of anti-government sentiment on social media, pre-dating the recent protests. He was a seriously mentally disturbed individual who merely used what is happening in NYC as an excuse to kill police officers. He didn't kill them BECAUSE of what Obama etc said. His own family has come forward to say that his actions had nothing to do with anything other than his mental illness. I saw an interview with his sister where she said that even his own mother was afraid of him.
While his history is true, he finally snapped and based on his own words and the timing, the attack on police from these protestors and riots absolutely RILED him up to finally take action. NO?
In my opinion, he was a mentally disturbed guy who wanted to do bad things, and used the protests here as an excuse. If he only wanted to "get back" at the police, he wouldn't have shot his ex girlfriend, too.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by BlessedMomma
Chanting what do we want dead cops! When do we want it now! Is peaceful to you???? Punching cops? Taunting them? Attacking them? Shutting down streets and bridges?
You cannot be so.naive to think that all of the comments from obama and eric holder to deblasio to all these protests had no effect on this individual to do what he did??
Did you not see his tweets prior to commiting the crime???
Actually, this guy had a long history of anti-government sentiment on social media, pre-dating the recent protests. He was a seriously mentally disturbed individual who merely used what is happening in NYC as an excuse to kill police officers. He didn't kill them BECAUSE of what Obama etc said. His own family has come forward to say that his actions had nothing to do with anything other than his mental illness. I saw an interview with his sister where she said that even his own mother was afraid of him.
While his history is true, he finally snapped and based on his own words and the timing, the attack on police from these protestors and riots absolutely RILED him up to finally take action. NO?
In my opinion, he was a mentally disturbed guy who wanted to do bad things, and used the protests here as an excuse. If he only wanted to "get back" at the police, he wouldn't have shot his ex girlfriend, too.
I still think that if there was not this recent chain of events leading up to the attack on police, this man would not have taken action. If he has had anger all these years towards police but never acted on it, to me that says this was the straw that broke the camel's back for this man.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
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This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Exactly!!
I keep hearing people lumping these officers with Michael brown and eric garner. There's one HUGE difference though, the latter were CRIMINALS committing CRIMES. The officers were innocents sitting in their patrol car eating lunch just trying to do their job.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
ITA. Very scary.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them. 
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
Thank you for saying this. I agree that no one gets it unless they have family members in law enforcement.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
THANK YOU!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!
Thankfully, my husband and my father are both retired. My closest friend is still on the job as is my cousin.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
My blood has boiled before over comments on these boards, but not like the last few days.
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| Posted 12/23/14 11:24 AM |
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by cowgirlkate
NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post
If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.
Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.
So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe.
So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.
How can this not be seen?
What I see is a man from GEORGIA who came to NYC and committed a horrible crime. He has a long record of criminal behavior and mental illness. Is there any evidence that he was tied to protests in NYC? Is there any evidence that he followed the politics of a city in which he did not live?
The vast majority of protests in NY have been peaceful and restrained. There have been incidents, but most protesters are peaceful.
Seriously? Did you not see his posts on social media? I cannot comprehend how you don't see the link between the two.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
THANK YOU!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!
Thankfully, my husband and my father are both retired. My closest friend is still on the job as is my cousin.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
My blood has boiled before over comments on these boards, but not like the last few days.
You don't know if you aren't a part of the family. The anger I feel over some of the things I have seen on here is horrible. The sense of entitlement people feel yet have no respect for the very job that they are bashing. I can't even say what i'm really feeling because I can't express it. I'm stunned, sad, scared, and above all livid with our country. With people. To ANYONE justifying these killings in those ******* criminals names I hope you meet your same fate and when your family cries for the police I hope they come. I hope they come because THEY are better then you. THEY fight the good fight. THEY do the job.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by AllyMally
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
THANK YOU!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!
Thankfully, my husband and my father are both retired. My closest friend is still on the job as is my cousin.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
My blood has boiled before over comments on these boards, but not like the last few days.
You don't know if you aren't a part of the family. The anger I feel over some of the things I have seen on here is horrible. The sense of entitlement people feel yet have no respect for the very job that they are bashing. I can't even say what i'm really feeling because I can't express it. I'm stunned, sad, scared, and above all livid with our country. With people. To ANYONE justifying these killings in those ******* criminals names I hope you meet your same fate and when your family cries for the police I hope they come. I hope they come because THEY are better then you. THEY fight the good fight. THEY do the job.
All I can say is this- these Monday morning quarterbacks would be CRYING and begging for an "evil" cop to help them if one of these scumbag thugs that they are defending and protesting over met them in a dark alley and tried to mug them. And they would, trust me.
Ironic.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by AllyMally
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
THANK YOU!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!
Thankfully, my husband and my father are both retired. My closest friend is still on the job as is my cousin.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
My blood has boiled before over comments on these boards, but not like the last few days.
You don't know if you aren't a part of the family. The anger I feel over some of the things I have seen on here is horrible. The sense of entitlement people feel yet have no respect for the very job that they are bashing. I can't even say what i'm really feeling because I can't express it. I'm stunned, sad, scared, and above all livid with our country. With people. To ANYONE justifying these killings in those ******* criminals names I hope you meet your same fate and when your family cries for the police I hope they come. I hope they come because THEY are better then you. THEY fight the good fight. THEY do the job.
All I can say is this- these Monday morning quarterbacks would be CRYING and begging for an "evil" cop to help them if one of these scumbag thugs that they are defending and protesting over met them in a dark alley and tried to mug them. And they would, trust me.
Ironic.
People don't realize the PETTY crimes these officers were trying to STOP and CONTROL often are a sign of larger crimes or spiral into larger crimes (again the BROKEN windows theory).
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
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Posted by AllyMally
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by seaside
This loss is not just a police loss. It is all of our loss.
If we keep underpaying, endangering, and disrespecting our police, there will be no one in between us and those who wish to harm us--for whatever reason.
I agree. I am so disturbed at the lack of respect. I think all the people who are pointing fingers at what the police do wrong have no idea what the police do right 99% of the time. And again, let's keep in mind, the men that died as of recent WERE criminals who RESISTED police command and arrest.
Yup..it blows my mind the way people think and how easily people discredit the good things cops do 99% of the time.. If there was no law enforcement NYC would be like the wild wild west. We don't know half the shiit these police officers see and deal with everyday. Crazy ish..I've heard stories that would blow your mind. The stress they endure every day is incomprehensible.
I'm really scared for what our city is going to become. It's a very slippery slope when we think it's OK to villainize our law enforcement for essentially doing their job and an even more slippery one when our elected officials are doing nothing to stop it.
Unless your immediate family member is a police officer, the general public would have NO clue what it's like to be a police officer or family member.
As a child of an officer, my father was barely home when we were home/awake, etc, never able to attend many family or school functions, or sleeping opposite the rest of the family. My father was almost blown to pieces by a criminal, my father has been injured in struggles, my father has had criminals' blood all over him from struggles, my father has helped strangers from being killed or harmed, my father volunteers to help other police officers, volunteered to help on 9-11. We have had our bell rang 4am growing up when a crazed person my father has interacted with figured out where we lived. Do any of you KNOW how difficult and scary of a job it is? Do you know what it's like to never know if the day is that day that your father or loved one will never return again? And you all want to criticize when an officer apprehends a CRIMINAL and something goes awry b/c the criminal resisted arrest? RESISTED ARREST? DISOBEYED THE LAW WHEN YES< THESE MEN WERE BREAKING IT! THEY WERE NOT PICKED ON B/C BLACK. Other community members called the police on them for breaking the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO????????? THEY ALONE increase their risk of death by being active in CRIME and DISOBEYING the law.
BROWN AND GARNER WERE CRIMINALS! They broke the law, and they resisted authority. And THIS is who you are defending????
Are any of you protesting out there that these citizens/civilians (Brown, even Garner could have, police NEVER know who will attack or harm them) threaten the lives of police (OR YOU!) EVERY DAY? Our police men who are trying to KEEP YOU ALL SAFE and you spit in their faces with disrespect also. What a thankless job, sickens me that my own father risked his life countless times to defend the very people who want to take the streets to protest about him/them.
THANK YOU!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!
Thankfully, my husband and my father are both retired. My closest friend is still on the job as is my cousin.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
My blood has boiled before over comments on these boards, but not like the last few days.
You don't know if you aren't a part of the family. The anger I feel over some of the things I have seen on here is horrible. The sense of entitlement people feel yet have no respect for the very job that they are bashing. I can't even say what i'm really feeling because I can't express it. I'm stunned, sad, scared, and above all livid with our country. With people. To ANYONE justifying these killings in those ******* criminals names I hope you meet your same fate and when your family cries for the police I hope they come. I hope they come because THEY are better then you. THEY fight the good fight. THEY do the job.
All I can say is this- these Monday morning quarterbacks would be CRYING and begging for an "evil" cop to help them if one of these scumbag thugs that they are defending and protesting over met them in a dark alley and tried to mug them. And they would, trust me.
Ironic.
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by MrsA1012
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MrsA1012
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.
NYPD is an excellent example of a very diverse force and also an excellent example why it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that those who don't respect cops don't care about the color of their skin or their ethnicity, sex, etc..they just don't care. A cop is a cop to them black, white, purple.
The problem in most communities with high crime is a lack of respect..for law enforcement, for rules, for people. That's the problem right there.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MrsA1012
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.
NYPD is an excellent example of a very diverse force and also an excellent example why it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that those who don't respect cops don't care about the color of their skin or their ethnicity, sex, etc..they just don't care. A cop is a cop to them black, white, purple.
The problem in most communities with high crime is a lack of respect..for law enforcement, for rules, for people. That's the problem right there.
Right. As I said in my response on the other thread, the only thing having black cops would do is prevent the racism accusation. I 100% agree with you, it's a blatant disregard/disrespect for the law and for respecting others.
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MrsA1012
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.
NYPD is an excellent example of a very diverse force and also an excellent example why it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that those who don't respect cops don't care about the color of their skin or their ethnicity, sex, etc..they just don't care. A cop is a cop to them black, white, purple.
The problem in most communities with high crime is a lack of respect..for law enforcement, for rules, for people. That's the problem right there.
Right. As I said in my response on the other thread, the only thing having black cops would do is prevent the racism accusation. I 100% agree with you, it's a blatant disregard/disrespect for the law and for respecting others.
Sad but true..
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Goobster
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MrsA1012
. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.
Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.
NYPD is an excellent example of a very diverse force and also an excellent example why it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that those who don't respect cops don't care about the color of their skin or their ethnicity, sex, etc..they just don't care. A cop is a cop to them black, white, purple.
The problem in most communities with high crime is a lack of respect..for law enforcement, for rules, for people. That's the problem right there.
Right. As I said in my response on the other thread, the only thing having black cops would do is prevent the racism accusation. I 100% agree with you, it's a blatant disregard/disrespect for the law and for respecting others.
Unfortunately, having African American cops doesn't even prevent the racism accusation. Not when you have idiots like Sharpton and De blasio spinning things and turning situations into a race issue. The media is also to blame.
Like I said previously but people either aren't aware of , like to forget because it doesn't help their "cause" and most media fails to mention is that an African American Sargeant oversaw the Garner arrest. She testified that his condition did not seem serious or to grow worse. She also never intervened.
And I agree with a previous poster about the comments recently on these threads making my blood boil. Let us all remember that the cops everyone are bashing, Monday morning quarterbacking and those protestors abusing are the SAME NYPD who lost so many on 9/11 because they were running INTO THE BURNING TOWERS to save others!! Most of the police who applied since then applied after and because of the heroics of those on 9/11! But now people think the NYPD needs to "retrain"???? People are losing touch with reality! And as Goobster stated , all over two CRIMINALS!
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
And since this thread is about De Blasio and I can't get the threads to open that I previously posted, I am copying and pasting this little tidbit about De Blasio so those that think he's doing a great job can see what a liar and hypocrite he is. Talking out of both sides of his mouth about Garner's crime not being so bad , but doing this behind the scenes the week of the Grand jury decision:
From the NY Post 12/16/14-
De Blasio quietly filed untaxed cig suit the week of Garner decision
Mayor Bill de Blasio ordered city lawyers to stay silent about a groundbreaking lawsuit to keep bootleg cigarettes out of the Big Apple — because it came as Hizzoner was downplaying the illegal cigarette sales that led to the ill-fated police arrest of Eric Garner, The Post has learned.
The city Law Department drafted the civil racketeering suit the same week that a Staten Island grand jury did not indict NYPD cop Daniel Pantaleo in Garner’s chokehold death, and it was quietly filed in Brooklyn federal court on Dec. 9.
The Law Department drafted a press release boasting that the suit “is the first of its kind brought by the city against an out-of-state entity for supplying cigarette traffickers,” sources said.
But City Hall suppressed the news, ordering the Law Department not to put out the release, according to the sources.
The move kept de Blasio from looking like a hypocrite for cracking down on illegal tobacco sales at the same time he was minimizing Garner’s criminal activity, which led to his deadly July 17 arrest.
“Eric Garner was a decent man. Obviously, it was a minor offense he was committing — there’s no way it should have ended up in this situation,” de Blasio told HOT 97 radio on Dec. 4, a day after the grand jury ruling.
One city official said, “City Hall knew they had screwed up, so they squashed the press release.
“You can’t have the mayor blabbing away that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’ but then have the Law Department, which represents and protects the city and the mayor’s interests, file this suit,” the official said. “It reeks of duplicity.”
The official, citing de Blasio’s “Tale of Two Cities” campaign rhetoric, added that “the mayor has a problem with two cities, and he created it.”
“On one hand, to pander to his voting base, he spews some nonsense that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’” the official said.
“But, on the other hand, he realizes this is a major issue with serious ramifications if left unchecked and he has the city’s Law Department file this first-of-its-kind federal lawsuit against the smoke shop.”
According to a March report by Bloomberg News, an estimated 57 percent of the cigarettes smoked in New York are smuggled across state lines to avoid hefty state and city taxes that add $58.50 to the cost of a carton.
The city’s suit targets Discount Tobacco & Things of Woodbridge, Va., and its president, Gaby Nouhra, who are accused of conspiring to violate the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.
Court papers say the smoke shop, located in a suburban strip mall outside Richmond, is where alleged Staten Island bootlegger Michael Zekry bought more than 2,500 cartons of cigarettes that cops found in his van last month.
“Zekry had for at least the prior two years purchased similar quantities of cigarettes from DT&T, and made those purchases far more frequently than every 10 weeks,” according to the suit.
The suit seeks a court order barring DT&T from distributing cigarettes in New York, along with all illegal profits and unspecified damages, including three times the amount of tax money lost to the alleged trafficking scheme.
Nouhra didn’t return a request for comment.
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Posted by Summergirl
And since this thread is about De Blasio and I can't get the threads to open that I previously posted, I am copying and pasting this little tidbit about De Blasio so those that think he's doing a great job can see what a liar and hypocrite he is. Talking out of both sides of his mouth about Garner's crime not being so bad , but doing this behind the scenes the week of the Grand jury decision:
From the NY Post 12/16/14-
De Blasio quietly filed untaxed cig suit the week of Garner decision
Mayor Bill de Blasio ordered city lawyers to stay silent about a groundbreaking lawsuit to keep bootleg cigarettes out of the Big Apple — because it came as Hizzoner was downplaying the illegal cigarette sales that led to the ill-fated police arrest of Eric Garner, The Post has learned.
The city Law Department drafted the civil racketeering suit the same week that a Staten Island grand jury did not indict NYPD cop Daniel Pantaleo in Garner’s chokehold death, and it was quietly filed in Brooklyn federal court on Dec. 9.
The Law Department drafted a press release boasting that the suit “is the first of its kind brought by the city against an out-of-state entity for supplying cigarette traffickers,” sources said.
But City Hall suppressed the news, ordering the Law Department not to put out the release, according to the sources.
The move kept de Blasio from looking like a hypocrite for cracking down on illegal tobacco sales at the same time he was minimizing Garner’s criminal activity, which led to his deadly July 17 arrest.
“Eric Garner was a decent man. Obviously, it was a minor offense he was committing — there’s no way it should have ended up in this situation,” de Blasio told HOT 97 radio on Dec. 4, a day after the grand jury ruling.
One city official said, “City Hall knew they had screwed up, so they squashed the press release.
“You can’t have the mayor blabbing away that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’ but then have the Law Department, which represents and protects the city and the mayor’s interests, file this suit,” the official said. “It reeks of duplicity.”
The official, citing de Blasio’s “Tale of Two Cities” campaign rhetoric, added that “the mayor has a problem with two cities, and he created it.”
“On one hand, to pander to his voting base, he spews some nonsense that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’” the official said.
“But, on the other hand, he realizes this is a major issue with serious ramifications if left unchecked and he has the city’s Law Department file this first-of-its-kind federal lawsuit against the smoke shop.”
According to a March report by Bloomberg News, an estimated 57 percent of the cigarettes smoked in New York are smuggled across state lines to avoid hefty state and city taxes that add $58.50 to the cost of a carton.
The city’s suit targets Discount Tobacco & Things of Woodbridge, Va., and its president, Gaby Nouhra, who are accused of conspiring to violate the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.
Court papers say the smoke shop, located in a suburban strip mall outside Richmond, is where alleged Staten Island bootlegger Michael Zekry bought more than 2,500 cartons of cigarettes that cops found in his van last month.
“Zekry had for at least the prior two years purchased similar quantities of cigarettes from DT&T, and made those purchases far more frequently than every 10 weeks,” according to the suit.
The suit seeks a court order barring DT&T from distributing cigarettes in New York, along with all illegal profits and unspecified damages, including three times the amount of tax money lost to the alleged trafficking scheme.
Nouhra didn’t return a request for comment.
Thank you! I've been saying from day 1 w/ Garner that the real outrage should be at the law and not at the police for trying to arrest him!!
Basically Eric Garner died bc the city is cracking down on illegal cigarettes to collect TAX dollars!
The cops don't make the laws! This mayor should be ashamed! (And I'm sure this started with Bloomberg!)
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now
Posted by Summergirl
De Blasio quietly filed untaxed cig suit the week of Garner decision
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What a SLIMY sneaky rat Diblasio is. Does any of Garner's family realize this?
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