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jules
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dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
My ds has never slept through the night.
I am not expecting miracles but he isn't getting better at all. In fact worse. He can be up some nights almost every hour. I used to be able to reposition him or give him the paci but now it is up, wake and crying.
He has chronic ear infections so I never know if one is possibly coming on or if it is just him.
I would try CIO but every hour? I don't think I could do it. Once maybe 2xs a night but he is up a lot more than that
HELP PLEASE. I am utterly sleep deprived
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Did you see my post from the middle of the night last night? We're in the same situation over here. I have no advice but lots of  . Sleep deprivation is just miserable! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things improve soon for both of us.
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| Posted 7/6/08 10:48 AM |
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InShock
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
My DD woke up multiple times a night for a period of time (looking for her pacifier). We did CIO and it was not needed at each waking - once I did it for her first waking, she did not wake anymore! So it's not necessarily true that you'd be doing it every hour - perhaps try it for the first time and the subsequent wake-ups may NOT occur!
Good luck 
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| Posted 7/6/08 10:51 AM |
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dm24angel
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Im the queen reader so you know Im gonna ask, have you re-read any of the books? I find every new milestone, age etc has new problems and Im re reading the sleeping books to get a better understanding.
It does sound like some kind of sleep disturbance or sleep association issue IMO since its not something new, but ongoing.
Can you give us more details?
Whats your bedtime routine..does he fight it? How long from when he wakes does he cry. Is it a whimper or flat out screaming crying?
HAve you tried letting him CIO when he wakes for at least 10 minutes each time?
What do you do when he wakes?
And whats in his crib and in his room? ( blankets, toys, nightnight etc?
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| Posted 7/6/08 11:53 AM |
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lbelle821
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
DS went through a phase like this a few months age and I really couldn't put my finger on what the issue was. Fortunately, all I had to do was stumble in his room and put the paci in his mouth and he'd go back to sleep. Some night it was 4 or 5 times.
Now he does it at least once per night and is still easily soothed with the paci so I'm not complaining.
Yesterday you mentioned that you think the CAC might be waking him. Can you try and close the vent in his room? Also, do you have a white noise machine? I don't and still thinking about getting one because when he is not in a deep sleep any noise wakes him up.
I'm sure every time it happens you think ear infection right away. But, it could be teeth too.
Sorry I don't have better advice. Here are some hugs for you. Maybe tonight see if you can work out a deal with your DH so that you can get at least one fill night's rest and he does baby duty. Never works in my house because I'm the lightest sleeper since DS came along and DH NEVER hears him But maybe worth a shot!
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| Posted 7/6/08 12:01 PM |
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by luvnlife
Did you see my post from the middle of the night last night? We're in the same situation over here. I have no advice but lots of . Sleep deprivation is just miserable! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things improve soon for both of us.
no i didn't 
hoping things get better for you too
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| Posted 7/6/08 5:42 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
I think if you did do CIO, he would not be waking up every hour. Maybe the first few nights, but after that it will get better
I think you should try CIO (try it on a weekend so that if it IS tough the first few days, at least it will not be on a workday
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by dm24angel
Can you give us more details?
Whats your bedtime routine..does he fight it? How long from when he wakes does he cry. Is it a whimper or flat out screaming crying?
HAve you tried letting him CIO when he wakes for at least 10 minutes each time?
What do you do when he wakes?
And whats in his crib and in his room? ( blankets, toys, nightnight etc?
sure can
Bedtime routine is such:
bath, bottle, relaxing time reading a book, give him a pacifier, he lays back in my arms and chills out for about 5 mins, moans a little (that is a new thing) when he closes his eyes, falls asleep. I put him in bed. Usually by 8
He sleeps for about an 1-2 hours. Starts moving about in the crib. side to side. Then he starts rubbing his eyes. Feet go up in the air and then he starts crying. LOUDLY. I go in and sometimes just give him the paci and roll him over, rub his back and he goes out. Lately he fights this and rolls back and cries.
In this case then i pick him up, sit in my rocker and he is out in a sec. When i put him back into his crib it is a 50/50 crap shoot. Either he wakes up again and cries or he rolls over and is out.
Either way by about 11:30-12 this all happens again. Then at about 2, then 4. Sometimes it is every hour.
There is nothing in his cub other than his paci. He isn't a blanket fan and no toys
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| Posted 7/6/08 5:47 PM |
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by stephanief
I think if you did do CIO, he would not be waking up every hour. Maybe the first few nights, but after that it will get better
I think you should try CIO (try it on a weekend so that if it IS tough the first few days, at least it will not be on a workday
i think i am going to have to. It is just sooo hard for me. With all his past ear infections (i think it is now 8) and whatnot. I am sooo scared of doing CIO and him being in pain and me not knowing it. 
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| Posted 7/6/08 5:49 PM |
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by lbelle821
Yesterday you mentioned that you think the CAC might be waking him. Can you try and close the vent in his room? Also, do you have a white noise machine? I don't and still thinking about getting one because when he is not in a deep sleep any noise wakes him up.
I'm sure every time it happens you think ear infection right away. But, it could be teeth too.
Sorry I don't have better advice. Here are some hugs for you. Maybe tonight see if you can work out a deal with your DH so that you can get at least one fill night's rest and he does baby duty. Never works in my house because I'm the lightest sleeper since DS came along and DH NEVER hears him But maybe worth a shot!
We have a white noise machine.
But yes...he is BITING EVERYTHING so i do think he is teething. But why isn't he upset during his naps or during the day??? Just cries at night
ETA...DH and i def switch off but lets face it. I am like you, i hear everything .When i hear him cry, even if my DH is there, i get up.
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| Posted 7/6/08 5:50 PM |
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itsbabytime
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
How old is DS?
I think the most important part of your post is that you said he has NEVER slept well AND it is getting worse - so, this clearly isn't just a phase or just because he is teething or not feeling well.
We had a very similar problem - my DS NEVER slept well from the day we brought him home. His sleep problems varied from month to month and sometimes he slept better than others but, he never went to sleep on his own and never slept through the night without waking. I constantly lived on little to no sleep but, just learned to deal b/c I really didn't want to make him CIO - I also thought it wouldn't work for us b/c I few times, out of desperation, I let him cry and he never fell asleep - it just got him more riled up and took longer to rock him to sleep. Well around 8mos things got SO BAD. At first, i thought like you - maybe he is teething, maybe he is getting sick, maybe it is a phase - well, it never got better. I had to nurse/rock him to sleep and pray he would stay asleep when I put him down - if he was not in a deep sleep he would wake up immediately and I would have to rock him again - sometimes for 10 min - sometimes 45, and, sometimes I would have to do this for several tries and several hours b/f he fell asleep. He would then sleep for 1-3 hours, wake up again and then same story, this would happen all night long. Some nights I only got an hour of sleep at a time and only 3 hrs combined. The problem was he was old enough to be aware of the situation - he knew the crib meant bedtime and he didn't want any part of it - he knew if he cried mommy would come and she would rock him and, if he cried again, she would continue to rock him - in short, he was working me!
Finally two weeks ago we resorted to Dr. Ferber. The first two days were hell but, now, it is much better - is it perfect, no, but, livable. The key for us was DS has to go to sleep awake and he has to put himself to sleep at bedtime, upon wakings and for naps. Now he goes to sleep a few minutes after going into his crib - he wakes during the night only sometimes but, when he does, only once or twice AND 9/10 puts himself back to sleep without me even going in. Same story for naps (which, before, were never consistent and never in his crib).
Anyway, I feel your pain which is why I have written this whole long book in response to your post  I say, if he has no fever and no obvious signs of sickness - buy the Dr. Ferber book and try it - but, if you do - make sure you commit to it 100% or else I'm not sure it will work.
GOOD LUCK
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pinkandblue
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by jules
Posted by stephanief
I think if you did do CIO, he would not be waking up every hour. Maybe the first few nights, but after that it will get better
I think you should try CIO (try it on a weekend so that if it IS tough the first few days, at least it will not be on a workday
i think i am going to have to. It is just sooo hard for me. With all his past ear infections (i think it is now 8) and whatnot. I am sooo scared of doing CIO and him being in pain and me not knowing it.
I know it is hard, I was a CIO failure myself up until she was about 12 months old...
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Mrs
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
how old is your DC?
I think one of the most important things that you can teach your DS about sleep is how to self -soothe. That way even if he wakes up, he can go to sleep on his own. That is what we tought our DD. She, at 7mths, still wakes up during the night alot, but ALWAYS she just goes back to sleep on her own.
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| Posted 7/6/08 7:50 PM |
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by itsbabytime
How old is DS?
I think the most important part of your post is that you said he has NEVER slept well AND it is getting worse - so, this clearly isn't just a phase or just because he is teething or not feeling well.
Anyway, I feel your pain which is why I have written this whole long book in response to your post I say, if he has no fever and no obvious signs of sickness - buy the Dr. Ferber book and try it - but, if you do - make sure you commit to it 100% or else I'm not sure it will work.
GOOD LUCK
9 plus mos.
DIdn't want to quote all of it but THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for the response.
Buying the book tomorrow. I know i am going to be a mess but i think it has to be done
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| Posted 7/6/08 9:24 PM |
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jules
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Re: dont know what to do anymore (sleep vent)
Posted by Mrs
how old is your DC?
I think one of the most important things that you can teach your DS about sleep is how to self -soothe. That way even if he wakes up, he can go to sleep on his own. That is what we tought our DD. She, at 7mths, still wakes up during the night alot, but ALWAYS she just goes back to sleep on her own.
how exactly do you teach self sooth? just the CIO? I am assuming so..
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