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Posted by 5ofClubs

OMG> Some places ask for your W2 or paystub!!!! I would never give them that. I guess I would be jobless forever

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I work in HR (sorry I prob sound like a broken record, but... )

I have potential employees complete a background authorization which includes a credit check and income verification..so yea, if I am interviewing you and the position salary range is $30-35k and you tell me you are already making $35k and want at least $38k, then it comes back that at your last job you were only making $28k, it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth! Just be honest, like the old saying, honesty is the best policy.

At the job I am in now, my requirements were in the very top of what they were willing to pay - but I was honest and my boss hired me anyway - she said had I put down that I was making more than what I was, she would have never even brought me in for an interview.

You can say what you are looking for - that's fine - but never ever lie about it. It's gonna come back to bite you.

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I get the not lying part.

I don't know why the current salary is so important other then as something that can be verified which I can sort of understand. Is it also used as a negotiating point by the employer? If a position is being offered at say $50K and I am qualified but only make $35K now, does that mean I would be expected to be paid much less then $50K?

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are there really jobs out there that don't ask you what you've made at your previous/current job? (whether in person or on the application)

I have never NOT seen this Q asked.

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I have never been asked this, nor have I ever read about this happening to people before this posting. I have always been asked what salary I am looking for and we go from there with the negotiations. I also have never been asked to fill out an application for a job, so there is no written request for information. I submit a resume and meet for an interview(s). The whole idea of requesting documentation of your salary makes no sense to me since it really doesn't necessarily show anything. All it does is give the employer a possible upper hand in the negotiations which is unfair. There are too many reasons why past salary is not an indicator or predictor of a person's ability to do a job that it should not be used to determine anything by a future employer. If they are using it just to see if you are going to lie about your salary, then I think that's an organization that I would not want to work for. Salary is not wholly based on what is on your W-2 or paystub in many industries.

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I was a Telephone Investigator,and did all the Leg Work that Companies want for Potential Hires!
You wouldn't beleive the stuff people LIE about!
I used to investigate HS Diplomas,College Grads,Previous Jobs!!!!!!!
Many Companies use this type of Business to help them w/the Hiring process!
Do Not Lie on an Application this is becoming More and More Resourceful!!!!

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Thanks. I have been at this job forever - long before companies did credit & backround checks so I wasn't sure how it played into the interview process and salary negotiations.

I can see the need to verify information because there is so little you can get about an applicant. Previous employers are limited to saying yes, she worked here during these dates, this was her title and this was her salary. Other references that are provided are of course going to be glowing - no one is foolish enough to pick someone that would say you suck.

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I have seen great candidates lose an offer because they misrepresent what their current/most recent salary is. All of my clients ask for current salary and requirements when interviewing for a position, regardless of the level of the person. Some use services which verify salary, education, employment history, etc.

Companies need to be fair to their current and prospective employees. How does is look if someone is hired at a higher salary than the people who are currently in the role all because they chose not to tell the truth about their salary? It can be a major cause of problems with employee morale and companies need to be careful to treat everyone fairly.

If a company is advertising the job at $50K that usually means that is the highest range the position will go to based on their budget. Just because someone is making $35K, it does not mean they should be hired at $50K no matter how qualified they are. It's not the new company's fault that someone was underpaid at a previous employer. Having said that, I have also seen people hired at much more than they are making because a company wanted them badly enough. Each company/situation is different. If someone does not tell the truth about their salary, they deserve whatever consequences can come from that choice. If you get away with is, great. If not, lesson learned.

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I understand that employers are doing this, my question is, how does an employer handle verifying past salary when there are issues regarding medical leaves, etc. that would leave an applicant unable to prove their salary.

For example: X's salary is stated at 50K during the interview. X is then asked to prove it with either a W-2 or pay stub. X can not show proof because during the previous month(s) or year prior to the interview, X was out of work on disablity/workers' comp., familiy medical leave, etc. and their full salary would not be reflected on these documents. Since it is not proper to ask questions regarding any of these issues on an interview (nor is showing them a pay stub that shows dependants because a persons maritial status or dependants (if stated) are off limits, and X doesn't feel comfortable (with good reason) to disclose why they haven't put in a full year's work, how do they "prove" their salary? Plus, X is still employed, so the current employer can not be contacted.

Unfortunately employers may consider X a risk to hire if they assume X doesn't show up at work to put in a full year, etc., & may take a lot time off in the future or if X willingly provides the information in an attempt to justify their true salary. (This may be discrimination if the issues are health related)

My only concern is that X will not be considered for the job since they can not provide salary information.

That's all I'm saying - I don't think that current salary is an indicator of anything.

Message edited 9/23/2008 9:50:31 PM.

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I have never been asked for a W-2 for any job I have applied for.

I do not think that what I am making at a current job should have any relavance to what I want for a new position. I could be working for a company for 5 years, getting 5 % raises BUT the new position will pay me a lot more than I am making. I do not think I have to justify why I want more money. If I tell them I am making $35k but they are willing to pay $60k but they will only pay me $45k because my salary isnt that high.

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