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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
Dear God, please go and actually educate yourself on COVID and the vaccine. You really don't have a clue, your comments show that over and over.
I won't engage further, it's like talking to a wall.
Good luck with your second shot. That’s the one that causes the most sickness. I am sure though that it will just be rainbows and unicorns and perfect for you though. 
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Hofstra26
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
Dear God, please go and actually educate yourself on COVID and the vaccine. You really don't have a clue, your comments show that over and over.
I won't engage further, it's like talking to a wall.
Good luck with your second shot. That’s the one that causes the most sickness. I am sure though that it will just be rainbows and unicorns and perfect for you though.
Actually, you're wrong. AGAIN. Shocker.
For those who had COVID it's generally the first shot that would give you the worst reaction as you already have the antibodies and your body reacts to the first shot as if it's the booster shot (2nd shot).
But why am I NOT remotely surprised that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the vaccine and COVID?
Here you go, read up.
WHY FIRST DOSE IS WORSE FOR POST-COVID PEOPLE
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
Dear God, please go and actually educate yourself on COVID and the vaccine. You really don't have a clue, your comments show that over and over.
I won't engage further, it's like talking to a wall.
Good luck with your second shot. That’s the one that causes the most sickness. I am sure though that it will just be rainbows and unicorns and perfect for you though.
Actually, you're wrong. AGAIN. Shocker.
For those who had COVID it's generally the first shot that would give you the worst reaction as you already have the antibodies and your body reacts to the first shot as if it's the booster shot (2nd shot).
But why am I NOT remotely surprised that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the vaccine and COVID?
Here you go, read up.
WHY FIRST DOSE IS WORSE FOR POST-COVID PEOPLE
Thanks, interesting as the people I have known who had Covid had issues with the second.
Still, best of luck.
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Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Windy you will always be wrong
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Anotherplease
Windy you will always be wrong
Yeah I figure that. It’s ok I have/had teens so I am used to being wrong 
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
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| Posted 5/14/21 10:06 PM |
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Sash
I voted for Biden, still don’t regret my decision but I do think he says things that are wrong and also sometimes looks like he isn’t all there. I don’t agree with him saying this but it’s obvious the agenda our government is pushing, and it’s this vaccine at all costs. So this isn’t surprising to me.
With that said, I don’t care about this threat because my little t-shirt styled mask doesn’t bother me. I can wear the mask for 2 seconds while I walk to the restaurants table. I’m not going to die. I don’t wear it outside and my family sees each other and doesn’t wear them indoors. So my son will have to wear it in school, and Karate, he’s already used to it. He doesn’t care anymore. So they need to hit someone like me with a bigger threat.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
Yes. There is a more advanced test that's not available to the general public. There is a specific name and they look for something specific, but I can't remember what my doctor said it was. I'm about to head out to meet my friend for our morning run, I will try to remember to look when I get back. My dad got the antibody test at city MD and was negative and so upset. My doctor said they should have told him all that will show is if you had covid or not.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
All I know is that if you are in an at-risk group I wouldn’t be unmasked with anyone if you are at the 6+ month mark because you might not be protected. I’m watching older people walking around so excited to be unmasked with their friends and they had the shot in January, and there’s no talking sense into them.
My family all got the flu shot one year and half got the flu and half didn’t....I would assume it’s just because the shot wore off. It wears off at different times.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
All I know is that if you are in an at-risk group I wouldn’t be unmasked with anyone if you are at the 6+ month mark because you might not be protected. I’m watching older people walking around so excited to be unmasked with their friends and they had the shot in January, and there’s no talking sense into them.
My family all got the flu shot one year and half got the flu and half didn’t....I would assume it’s just because the shot wore off. It wears off at different times.
Yup my mother is one of them. She did almost nothing for a year and now that she got the vaccine she thinks it is ok to hang out with her friends. False security for something they are not even sure how long it will last.
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Vaxx and wax should be the tag line for hot girl summer! Lol I will probably get in trouble for having a sense of humor/sarcasm/bringing nothing to the conversation etc
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Anotherplease
Vaxx and wax should be the tag line for hot girl summer! Lol I will probably get in trouble for having a sense of humor/sarcasm/bringing nothing to the conversation etc
I don't plan to do either.
I'm a shaver....lol
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Anotherplease
Vaxx and wax should be the tag line for hot girl summer! Lol I will probably get in trouble for having a sense of humor/sarcasm/bringing nothing to the conversation etc
I will just wax my eyebrows and lip lololol. Too chicken for down there lol.
I told hubby they need to offer my a million bucks to vax. Lol
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies. 
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
There is no protocol for EVERY person to be tested for vaccine antibodies however, those who have been ACTUAL participants in the vaccine research studies from the get go most surely have been tested and will continue to be. That's how we learn. That's how science and research works.
The FACT is, the more months that pass, the longer the protection seems to be. There is no real reason to think that the vaccine antibodies won't last months to a year or even longer. Scientists will continue to study the vaccine and adjust recommendations as necessary based on the research. I'm not sure what world you live in where you think medicine/vaccines are simply decided on a whim as opposed to following actual, real life data to drive decisions.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the DATA so far points to the vaccine being both effective and safe up to this point. And before you rattle off about the potential long terms risks of a vaccine made from components that have long been studied over the years, COVID itself carries the VERY real risk of long term health effects, some debilitating. It's a matter of which risk you're more comfortable with.
Don't take the vaccine, that's your choice. But continually mocking science and the entire medical community just makes you look foolish and shows your lack of knowledge about the vaccine itself.
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
There is no protocol for EVERY person to be tested for vaccine antibodies however, those who have been ACTUAL participants in the vaccine research studies from the get go most surely have been tested and will continue to be. That's how we learn. That's how science and research works.
The FACT is, the more months that pass, the longer the protection seems to be. There is no real reason to think that the vaccine antibodies won't last months to a year or even longer. Scientists will continue to study the vaccine and adjust recommendations as necessary based on the research. I'm not sure what world you live in where you think medicine/vaccines are simply decided on a whim as opposed to following actual, real life data to drive decisions.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the DATA so far points to the vaccine being both effective and safe up to this point. And before you rattle off about the potential long terms risks of a vaccine made from components that have long been studied over the years, COVID itself carries the VERY real risk of long term health effects, some debilitating. It's a matter of which risk you're more comfortable with.
Don't take the vaccine, that's your choice. But continually mocking science and the entire medical community just makes you look foolish and shows your lack of knowledge about the vaccine itself.
Well if we’re going to worry about long term risks of Covid maybe we shouldn’t be celebrating a vaccine that still allows you to get Covid.
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| Posted 5/16/21 4:51 PM |
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PitterPatter11
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
Yes there needs to a specific test for specific antibodies.
Your immune response is based on the specific antibodies that you make in response a specific antigen(s) on the pathogen. The ELISA tests being run by Urgent Care most likely are not testing for the specific antibody associated with the mRNA vaccines so therefore it does not account for that specifically shaped antibody. It does not mean that they do not have a test to check titer levels for the vaccine, it just means that specific lab does not have that ELISA test available currently.
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| Posted 5/16/21 4:52 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
There is no protocol for EVERY person to be tested for vaccine antibodies however, those who have been ACTUAL participants in the vaccine research studies from the get go most surely have been tested and will continue to be. That's how we learn. That's how science and research works.
The FACT is, the more months that pass, the longer the protection seems to be. There is no real reason to think that the vaccine antibodies won't last months to a year or even longer. Scientists will continue to study the vaccine and adjust recommendations as necessary based on the research. I'm not sure what world you live in where you think medicine/vaccines are simply decided on a whim as opposed to following actual, real life data to drive decisions.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the DATA so far points to the vaccine being both effective and safe up to this point. And before you rattle off about the potential long terms risks of a vaccine made from components that have long been studied over the years, COVID itself carries the VERY real risk of long term health effects, some debilitating. It's a matter of which risk you're more comfortable with.
Don't take the vaccine, that's your choice. But continually mocking science and the entire medical community just makes you look foolish and shows your lack of knowledge about the vaccine itself.
Well if we’re going to worry about long term risks of Covid maybe we shouldn’t be celebrating a vaccine that still allows you to get Covid.
Your comments regarding the vaccine are painfully ignorant.
You should absolutely be celebrating a vaccine that is PROVEN to have a 95% efficacy rate with PREVENTING severe cases of COVID that can land you in the hospital or in a coffin. PREVENTING a severe case of COVID (should you contract it) means it's unlikely you'll suffer long term effects since you won't get that sick to begin with it at all.
How about instead of spewing nonstop nonsense about the vaccine you simply say, "I'm scared of the vaccine so I won't take it" and then move on. That's the only thing that might actually make any sense coming from you at this point. Everything else is gibberish.
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| Posted 5/16/21 6:35 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Member since 9/11 1284 total posts
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
There is no protocol for EVERY person to be tested for vaccine antibodies however, those who have been ACTUAL participants in the vaccine research studies from the get go most surely have been tested and will continue to be. That's how we learn. That's how science and research works.
The FACT is, the more months that pass, the longer the protection seems to be. There is no real reason to think that the vaccine antibodies won't last months to a year or even longer. Scientists will continue to study the vaccine and adjust recommendations as necessary based on the research. I'm not sure what world you live in where you think medicine/vaccines are simply decided on a whim as opposed to following actual, real life data to drive decisions.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the DATA so far points to the vaccine being both effective and safe up to this point. And before you rattle off about the potential long terms risks of a vaccine made from components that have long been studied over the years, COVID itself carries the VERY real risk of long term health effects, some debilitating. It's a matter of which risk you're more comfortable with.
Don't take the vaccine, that's your choice. But continually mocking science and the entire medical community just makes you look foolish and shows your lack of knowledge about the vaccine itself.
Well if we’re going to worry about long term risks of Covid maybe we shouldn’t be celebrating a vaccine that still allows you to get Covid.
Your comments regarding the vaccine are painfully ignorant.
You should absolutely be celebrating a vaccine that is PROVEN to have a 95% efficacy rate with PREVENTING severe cases of COVID that can land you in the hospital or in a coffin. PREVENTING a severe case of COVID (should you contract it) means it's unlikely you'll suffer long term effects since you won't get that sick to begin with it at all.
How about instead of spewing nonstop nonsense about the vaccine you simply say, "I'm scared of the vaccine so I won't take it" and then move on. That's the only thing that might actually make any sense coming from you at this point. Everything else is gibberish.
How about those who are vaccinated stop thinking they are immune and celebrating that they can rip off their masks. The vaccine is 100% doing its job of keeping the at risk out of the hospital and those same people still need to be careful! There is so much misinformation out there on both ends. I feel like I’m parenting my parents again bc they think they should go into target maskless bc they are ‘safe’ and can’t get Covid.
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| Posted 5/16/21 6:51 PM |
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Hofstra26
Love to Bake!
Member since 7/06 27915 total posts
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Re: Get vaccinated or wear a mask
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by windyweather21
Vaccinated people are getting vaccinated people sick so what is your point? It’s not like us unhinged people who are wearing masks and are unvaccinated are running around infecting people.
This is what I am not understanding? How is allowing vaccinated people to go maskless helping the situation if they can still pass along the virus to others? The whole point of wearing masks was to protect others not the mask wearer? I am not trying to argue I am just trying to understand all the logic behind this decision.
I guess if you pass it to someone vaccinated, neither are going to get very sick. If you're not vaccinated, you should still be wearing a mask indoors so that would be your protection.
How do we know they won’t get very sick....no one is checking them to see if the vaccine is still effective.
Have any of you who were vaccinated early on had your antibody levels checked???? I guarantee not.... but because “they” think it lasts 6 months you are fine. Well here we are 6 months later and I couldn’t tell you one person I know who has checked. But let them walk around maskless.....makes sense.
I asked my doctor about taking an antibody test and he said a regular blood test will not show vaccine induced antibodies, only those from a previous infection. There is a specific type of antibody with the spike protein that is not looked at with the current tests. I'm not sure if there's any way for the general public to get a blood test to check vaccine antibodies.
Anyway, I do agree with you that allowing only vaccinated people to go maskless is the stupidest thing ever lol.
So how will they determine how often people need to get vaccinated or if/when they will need a booster if the blood test doesn't show vaccine induced antibodies? Do they have another test that they are using to follow the people in the clinical trials to determine how long the vaccine antibodies lasts?
I didn’t know that not only there needed to be a ‘specific’ test to check vax antibodies but also that it wasn’t available to the public. What a joke! How are they then telling people that for sure they’ll have antibodies and that it’ll def last for all these months, even suggesting up to a year! But sureeee, vax antibodies are DEF way better than natural antibodies.
*IF* I got the vaccine it wouldn’t be until October so I’m protected during ‘Covid season’. If you get it now, whose to say your protected in the heart of Covid season? They need to stop pushing it right now and get ready for the influx come September/ October when people SHOULD be getting it.
Mark my words....suddenly it will be good for a year, suddenly when they get rid of masks they will change it with no actual studies. Because I haven’t heard one person in the real world tested if they still had antibodies from the vaccine. But if the “science” says it we must follow it.
There is no protocol for EVERY person to be tested for vaccine antibodies however, those who have been ACTUAL participants in the vaccine research studies from the get go most surely have been tested and will continue to be. That's how we learn. That's how science and research works.
The FACT is, the more months that pass, the longer the protection seems to be. There is no real reason to think that the vaccine antibodies won't last months to a year or even longer. Scientists will continue to study the vaccine and adjust recommendations as necessary based on the research. I'm not sure what world you live in where you think medicine/vaccines are simply decided on a whim as opposed to following actual, real life data to drive decisions.
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the DATA so far points to the vaccine being both effective and safe up to this point. And before you rattle off about the potential long terms risks of a vaccine made from components that have long been studied over the years, COVID itself carries the VERY real risk of long term health effects, some debilitating. It's a matter of which risk you're more comfortable with.
Don't take the vaccine, that's your choice. But continually mocking science and the entire medical community just makes you look foolish and shows your lack of knowledge about the vaccine itself.
Well if we’re going to worry about long term risks of Covid maybe we shouldn’t be celebrating a vaccine that still allows you to get Covid.
Your comments regarding the vaccine are painfully ignorant.
You should absolutely be celebrating a vaccine that is PROVEN to have a 95% efficacy rate with PREVENTING severe cases of COVID that can land you in the hospital or in a coffin. PREVENTING a severe case of COVID (should you contract it) means it's unlikely you'll suffer long term effects since you won't get that sick to begin with it at all.
How about instead of spewing nonstop nonsense about the vaccine you simply say, "I'm scared of the vaccine so I won't take it" and then move on. That's the only thing that might actually make any sense coming from you at this point. Everything else is gibberish.
How about those who are vaccinated stop thinking they are immune and celebrating that they can rip off their masks. The vaccine is 100% doing its job of keeping the at risk out of the hospital and those same people still need to be careful! There is so much misinformation out there on both ends. I feel like I’m parenting my parents again bc they think they should go into target maskless bc they are ‘safe’ and can’t get Covid.
Vaccinated people are safe without a mask because again, if a vaccinated individual contracts COVID they will likely have a very mild case or be asymptomatic. Between having had COVID, testing for antibodies and having my first shot I would feel safe taking off my mask at this point. (not that. I have)
At some point, the idea is to rely on the vaccine and NOT masks and social distancing. If that makes you uncomfortable going forward, get yourself vaccinated. If not, just accept this is where we're headed and more as more people are fully vaccinated. It's NOT a bad thing.
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