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Disneygirl
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Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Background story: My mom has this friend from HS. She got married out of HS was married to this guy for about 6-7yrs, had a child together then divorced. Time passes she meets another guy marries him in city hall they have a child together and have been married for 20+ yrs now.

So my mom was talking to this friend the other day and she was saying how she would like to get married in a church (to husband of 20+yrs) so she is thinking about having her 1st marriage annulled. Is that even possible if she is already divorced from this man for well over 20 yrs already?

Posted 2/25/08 9:19 AM
 
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Posted 2/25/08 9:21 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Yes, it's possible. My freind just went thru this with her ex-husband (they were divorced 15+ yrs). He wanted to re-marry in a Catholic church. As they do not recognize divorces, the only way is to annul the marriage. All it took was signing papers. It didnt change the legality of the divorce, it was a church thing.

Posted 2/25/08 9:23 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Honestly I think it is a possibility...But I dont know for sure. My experience comes from a friend of a friend who got divorced...and then years later met someone...wanted to get remarried in a Catholic CHurch..and then had the first marriage annulled...

IMO..b/c their is a child involved in that first marriage..getting an annullment is not the entirely "right" thing to do.

Posted 2/25/08 9:23 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

It can be done, but can be very difficult depending on the diocese.

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Posted 2/25/08 9:25 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Church annulment is completely separate from legal annulment. My dad was trying to get my parents marriage annulled by the Church last year, they've been divorced legally almost 20 years.

Posted 2/25/08 9:26 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Do churches really grant annulments that easily? Sounds like it doesn't take much.

Posted 2/25/08 9:29 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

It's possible, just difficult. The church asks for many things in order to grant it, including written letters from family and friends...........Good luck to her...

Posted 2/25/08 9:29 AM
 

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Posted 2/25/08 9:31 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Posted by Disneygirl

Do churches really grant annulments that easily? Sounds like it doesn't take much.



It's easy to ask for one, but I don't know how often they grant them. My mom refused to participate in my dad's effort in any way. She's never heard anything more about it, so I imagine it wasn't granted.

Posted 2/25/08 9:31 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

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Posted by Disneygirl

Do churches really grant annulments that easily? Sounds like it doesn't take much.



It's easy to ask for one, but I don't know how often they grant them. My mom refused to participate in my dad's effort in any way. She's never heard anything more about it, so I imagine it wasn't granted.



I know in my DH's case, he was told (by the church) that if his ex-wife didn't repond to the written letters/statements, it would make the annulment go faster. They both wanted the annulment, so she never contested the statements.

Posted 2/25/08 9:35 AM
 

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Posted by Chatham-Chick

I know in my DH's case, he was told (by the church) that if his ex-wife didn't repond to the written letters/statements, it would make the annulment go faster. They both wanted the annulment, so she never contested the statements.



That's funny, my dad was told the opposite, that if my mom didn't participate it would be harder on him. But he was claiming that he was under the influence at the time and they wanted my mom to confirm. He was living in Georgia at the time, but he may have gone through the Archdiocese for Military Services since his parish was on base.

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Posted 2/25/08 9:40 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Posted by Disneygirl

Do churches really grant annulments that easily? Sounds like it doesn't take much.

Not to sound cynical, but no it is not that easy. Both parties have to enter it equally, and there is usually a hefty fee involved. Several thousands, depending on the diocese.

Posted 2/25/08 9:41 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

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Posted by Chatham-Chick

I know in my DH's case, he was told (by the church) that if his ex-wife didn't repond to the written letters/statements, it would make the annulment go faster. They both wanted the annulment, so she never contested the statements.



That's funny, my dad was told the opposite, that if my mom didn't participate it would be harder on him. But he was claiming that he was under the influence at the time and they wanted my mom to confirm. He was living in Georgia at the time, but he may have gone through the Archdiocese for Military Services since his parish was on base.

Mom my was told the opposite as well. Her XH did not cooperate and they ended up not being able to get the annulment. She did not care since she was not RC.

Posted 2/25/08 9:43 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

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Posted by Disneygirl

Do churches really grant annulments that easily? Sounds like it doesn't take much.

Not to sound cynical, but no it is not that easy. Both parties have to enter it equally, and there is usually a hefty fee involved. Several thousands, depending on the diocese.



No I had no idea. I would think it shouldn't be so easy especially in my mother's friend's case.

Posted 2/25/08 9:49 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

My DH got an annulment after a divorce. Its not an easy process and costs money, but IMO, it was worth it. (I did most of the work for it).

Posted 2/25/08 9:50 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Just another question: What are the grounds people claim to get an annulment?

Posted 2/25/08 9:50 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

My DH married his ex because she was pregnant, and he was young and foolish and thought he had to. He didn't really love her and they basically hated each other. He had to get evidence of that, people who knew them as a couple had to make statements. She also agreed to it all.

Posted 2/25/08 9:52 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Posted by Disneygirl

Just another question: What are the grounds people claim to get an annulment?

my mom claimed fraud on her XH part.

Posted 2/25/08 9:56 AM
 

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Just another question: What are the grounds people claim to get an annulment?



Basically with an annulment, you have to show that the marriage wouldn't have worked to begin with because of underlying issues/problems prior to the marriage.

Posted 2/25/08 9:57 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Posted by Chatham-Chick

It can be done, but can be very difficult depending on the diocese.




I agree..some are more open to this and others are WAY more traditional.

Posted 2/25/08 9:57 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

The Church doesn't do it very easily - My cousin was married for about 2 years before she got divorced, and when she went though the annulment process to marry #2 in Church - it cots a small fortune, she needed MANY letters from MANY friends/family in addition to her own lengthy explanation and statement -

The process became so time consuming aind tedious she said the hell w/ it and got married at the hall -

Also, I think if there are children from the marraige, the Church gives you a really hard time -

Posted 2/25/08 10:11 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

I don't know what others had to pay, but my DH's was only $600 (back in 2001/2002). He had gone through the Diocese of Newark.

FWIW, the Diocese of Rockville Centre is notorious for being very conservative and doesn't grant many annulments, so if your mom resides within that diocese, it might be a challenge.

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Posted 2/25/08 10:25 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

Yes, it is definitely possible.

She needs to have the first marriage annulled. She needs to go through the Chancery's office of the Diocese in which resides.

THEN, since she already got married again in city hall, she needs to get a convalidation so that marriage would be recognized as a Sacrament. Many people just then re-marry in the Church at a ceremony or Mass to do this.

Posted 2/25/08 10:39 AM
 

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Re: Getting an annulment when already divorced?

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IMO..b/c their is a child involved in that first marriage..getting an annullment is not the entirely "right" thing to do.



This is one of the greatest misconceptions and misunderstandings about annulments.

QUESTION: Will my children be illegitimate if my marriage is annulled?
Answer: NO! This is a grave misconception. The marital status of the parents does not affect the status of the children. All children are created in God's image and have equal status in the church. Neither civil law nor church law considers the children of an annulled marriage illegitimate. Nor does the annulment imply that the children were not the fruit of a genuine human love. Annulment is simply a decision on the circumstances surrounding a marriage that could prevent that marriage from being a sacramental marriage.

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Posted 2/25/08 11:09 AM
 
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