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pumpkinmom
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
I'm unfamiliar with these programs since I attended Catholic school many many years ago and there was no differentiation until High School. (Regents vs honors).
If your child's school has a gifted program, how is it different from regular classes? When and how do they qualify?
If your child goes to Catholic school, do they have anything similar?
ETA - I'm not trying to recreate the other thread that was bumped, I just really don't know what these programs are. And, IIRC, there was another thread where it seemed a lot of LIFers were in a gifted program. So, I'm wondering what they are and how kids qualify. Thanks.
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Here we go again lol
Gifted programs on Long Island vary greatly, most often offers as a pull out program in lower grades and tracked classes in older grades. However, most districts do not begin until 4th grade or so, which does an incredible disservice to gifted children (don’t get me stared though, because it’s not as if they wait until then for special ed programs). Students typically gain entrance through a combination of factors-grades, standardized testing, teacher recommendation. A good gifted program will be open-ended, allowing for project or problem based learning and is often guided by a students interests. It works on skills and creativity rather than curriculum. At the high school level, it’s typically in the form of AP classes. I know some districts who offered a high level tract for about 5% of the students in the grade, but these were often cut due to parent complaints and budgetary reasons.
Catholic schools typically offer zero true gifted programs until AP classes in high schools.
LI is far behind the city for gifted programming.
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
In our district, it is a pull-out elementary program that used to be housed in each school with a traveling teacher. Now, they have a dedicated classroom and the children get bused to the school where the program is held. The entrance exam and evaluation portfolio are more about being able to solve problems, think outside the box, and performing upper-level tasks than just a straight academic exam. I personally know a straight-A student who didn't make it in because she's a straight-laced thinker.
Now they create things with 3-D printer, do some coding and program robots among other things like history & Geography bee-prep.
In HS, there are only the AP or IB classes.
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
Thanks for the responses. Am I understanding correctly that they are doing extra projects? Not accelerated learning of regular curriculum?
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Thanks for the responses. Am I understanding correctly that they are doing extra projects? Not accelerated learning of regular curriculum?
At the elementary level it’s often extra projects. At the HS level with AP courses it’s accelerated learning.
However, I know East Meadow had a program with about 17-20 kids a year, who effectively skipped 7 th grade math a science, leaving more room for AP courses. Since the kids were grouped together already, the humanities often operated at a higher level as well. The program started in 7th grade, but they did away with it. Not sure if other districts have something similar.
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
It really depends on the district. Our district for elementary it starts in 4th Grade. It is a self contained class (full day) housed in one of the elementary schools. There is a list of criteria and a test I believe they need to take to get it. It is very hard. It is an accelerated curriculum as well as project based. For secondary level, there is a host of different classes, honors, theory, AP and a whole host of electives that are advanced. We also have STEAM classes for all students as well as a STEAM camp during the summer.
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Re: Gifted programs in Nassau question
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Posted by pumpkinmom
Thanks for the responses. Am I understanding correctly that they are doing extra projects? Not accelerated learning of regular curriculum?
At the elementary level it’s often extra projects. At the HS level with AP courses it’s accelerated learning.
However, I know East Meadow had a program with about 17-20 kids a year, who effectively skipped 7 th grade math a science, leaving more room for AP courses. Since the kids were grouped together already, the humanities often operated at a higher level as well. The program started in 7th grade, but they did away with it. Not sure if other districts have something similar.
My district did something similar, but the group of kids basically took 7 and 8 grade math/english in 7 grade. Then we were ahead one grade level in those subjects going into HS.
That being said, most of the super successful people I grew up with were not in this program. Not sure if that’s a coincidence!
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
Our district doesn't have gifted programs. Once they get to 7th grade, they can be put in accelerated classes for math, then 8th math/english. My daughter will go into accelerated math next year for 7th.
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Re: Gifted programs in Nassau question
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Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by pumpkinmom
Thanks for the responses. Am I understanding correctly that they are doing extra projects? Not accelerated learning of regular curriculum?
At the elementary level it’s often extra projects. At the HS level with AP courses it’s accelerated learning.
However, I know East Meadow had a program with about 17-20 kids a year, who effectively skipped 7 th grade math a science, leaving more room for AP courses. Since the kids were grouped together already, the humanities often operated at a higher level as well. The program started in 7th grade, but they did away with it. Not sure if other districts have something similar.
My district did something similar, but the group of kids basically took 7 and 8 grade math/english in 7 grade. Then we were ahead one grade level in those subjects going into HS.
That being said, most of the super successful people I grew up with were not in this program. Not sure if that’s a coincidence!
Gifted and monitarily successful aren’t necessarily linked. However, out of the 17 or so in my program, 1 received an MD from Yale, one from Harvard, one studied at MIT and Cambridge (but research, so not a ton of money in that), two others became doctors, one has done humanitarian efforts with Malala, and all except two or three ended up with at least a masters.
However, I know people who are wildly successful financially who almost flunked out of college.
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Re: Gifted programs in Nassau question
Posted by mommywantsababy
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Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by pumpkinmom
Thanks for the responses. Am I understanding correctly that they are doing extra projects? Not accelerated learning of regular curriculum?
At the elementary level it’s often extra projects. At the HS level with AP courses it’s accelerated learning.
However, I know East Meadow had a program with about 17-20 kids a year, who effectively skipped 7 th grade math a science, leaving more room for AP courses. Since the kids were grouped together already, the humanities often operated at a higher level as well. The program started in 7th grade, but they did away with it. Not sure if other districts have something similar.
My district did something similar, but the group of kids basically took 7 and 8 grade math/english in 7 grade. Then we were ahead one grade level in those subjects going into HS.
That being said, most of the super successful people I grew up with were not in this program. Not sure if that’s a coincidence!
Gifted and monitarily successful aren’t necessarily linked. However, out of the 17 or so in my program, 1 received an MD from Yale, one from Harvard, one studied at MIT and Cambridge (but research, so not a ton of money in that), two others became doctors, one has done humanitarian efforts with Malala, and all except two or three ended up with at least a masters.
However, I know people who are wildly successful financially who almost flunked out of college.
I didn’t say anything about money—they just aren’t doing anything above and beyond what the “non-gifted” population is doing. There are doctors, lawyers, teachers, business owners, etc in both groups.
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Gifted programs in Nassau question
I live in the Herricks District and we have the Gifted program that is called Gemini that starts in Elementary school. My niece is in it and started in 4th grade. She takes different accelerated classes basically with the others who are in the same program.
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