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Avuteli
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I soooo agree with the writer :))
http://www.alternative-mama.com/a-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby/
Dear mommy, I am confused. I am used to falling asleep in your soft, warm arms. Each night I lay snuggled close to you; close enough to hear your heartbeat, close enough to smell your sweet fragrance. I gaze at your beautiful face as I gently drift off to sleep, safe and secure in your loving embrace. When I awaken with a growling stomach, cold feet or because I need a cuddle, you attend to me quickly and before long I am sound asleep once again. But this last week has been different. Each night this week has gone like this. You tucked me up into my cot and kissed me goodnight, turned out the light and left. At first I was confused, wondering where you’d gone. Soon I became scared, and called for you. I called and called for you mummy, but you wouldn’t come! I was so sad, mummy. I wanted you so badly. I’ve never felt feelings that strong before. Where did you go? Eventually you came back! Oh, how happy and relieved I was that you came back! I thought you had left me forever! I reached up to you but you wouldn’t pick me up. You wouldn’t even look me in the eye. You lay me back down with those soft warm arms, said “shh, it’s night time now” and left again. This happened again, over and over. I screamed for you and after a while, longer each time, you would return but you wouldn’t hold me. After I had screamed a while, I had to stop. My throat hurt so badly. My head was pounding and my tiny tummy was growling. My heart hurt the most, though. I just couldn’t understand why you wouldn’t come. After what felt like a lifetime of nights like this, I gave up. You don’t come when I scream, and when you do finally come you won’t even look me in the eye, let alone hold my shaking, sobbing little body. The screaming hurt too much to carry on for very long. I just don’t understand, mummy. In the daytime when I fall and bump my head, you pick me up and kiss it better. If I am hungry, you feed me. If I crawl over to you for a cuddle, you read my mind and scoop me up, covering my tiny face with kisses and telling me how special I am and how much you love me. If I need you, you respond to me straight away. But at night time, when it’s dark and quiet and my night-light casts strange shadows on my wall, you disappear. I can see that you’re tired, mummy, but I love you so much. I just want to be near to you, that’s all. Now, at night time, I am quiet. But I still miss you.
Written by Imogen O’Reilly
Read more: http://www.alternative-mama.com/a-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby/#ixzz2jY7QL8Ca
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Puppy-Love
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Aww makes me so sad!!!! I did CIO for naps and bedtime - broke my heart. DD never cried more than 10-15 min but still it was probably an eternity for her. Now she goes down easily and sleeps 12+ hours at night so I am thankful for that.
But anyway looking back - I would probably change a few things. My DD was very alert and happy while awake - she probably didn't need to nap as much as I thought she did. I should have felt her out more and put down some of those Sleep training books!
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Posted 11/2/13 11:41 PM |
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Bellaocchi
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
This made me sad.
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Posted 11/2/13 11:46 PM |
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pharmcat2000
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Makes me sad to think about what they're thinking. I don't believe that it doesn't hurt them at all.
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Posted 11/3/13 1:09 AM |
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LiveItUp
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I always lose my resolve when I try CIO, it makes me so sad to see her crying like that
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Posted 11/3/13 5:35 AM |
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alli3131
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I don't feel bad one sec that I did CIO.
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Posted 11/3/13 6:28 AM |
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Naturalmama
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by alli3131
I don't feel bad one sec that I did CIO.
You shouldn't. I personally, did not to cry it out. But that was because I couldn't handle his crying more than I thought it was damaging him. My parents sleep trained me- I'm a pretty functional adult who is very close to them. People have to do what is right for them- this is one of those different strokes for different folks things.
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Posted 11/3/13 7:07 AM |
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Mrs213
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Never did CIO but I was in luck that I never had to. We snuggle with her til she gets tired then we put her in bed and she sleeps through the night - this letter is heartwrenching though and I don't like the intent behind it...
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Posted 11/3/13 7:18 AM |
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AMLMT1
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
CIO was the best choice I've made. We are all happy and not sleep deprived anymore.
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Posted 11/3/13 7:37 AM |
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Calla
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I so disagree with this letter and the decision to post it. I had two daughters -- one who was happy to drift off to sleep with a snuggle, and another whose intensity made this impossible. Stop making moms feel like a failure for doing the best they can.
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Posted 11/3/13 7:38 AM |
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alli3131
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by Calla
I so disagree with this letter and the decision to post it. I had two daughters -- one who was happy to drift off to sleep with a snuggle, and another whose intensity made this impossible. Stop making moms feel like a failure for doing the best they can.
Yup. I feel like posting this was done with zero good intent.
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Posted 11/3/13 7:41 AM |
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evenedan
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I disagree with anything that attempts to make a mom feel guilty. We are all doing our best at an incredibly hard and stressful job.
I am extremely grateful for sleep training. I'm also grateful to be the kind of mom who does tons of research and makes decisions I feel are right for my child. I have an 11-month-old who has slept through the night (every single night) since she was 6-months-old. She soothes herself to sleep and looks so happy when she gets in her crib at night. 12+ hours later we both wake up refreshed. Sleep training has been a gift to both of us.
This letter can go suck it!
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Posted 11/3/13 8:05 AM |
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MrsH2009
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I didn't and won't sleep train, it's not me and I don't agree with it. BUT I think this letter was unnecessary and hurtful.
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Posted 11/3/13 8:25 AM |
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StarsStripes
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Oh good Jesus, thanks a lot for this, now I will never be able to take the baby out of my room!!
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Posted 11/3/13 8:36 AM |
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Melmel821
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Calla
I so disagree with this letter and the decision to post it. I had two daughters -- one who was happy to drift off to sleep with a snuggle, and another whose intensity made this impossible. Stop making moms feel like a failure for doing the best they can.
Yup. I feel like posting this was done with zero good intent.
We started CIO because she was screaming, kicking, swatting while in our arms. So whether we held her or placed her in her crib she was going to CIO until she fell asleep. Now, at 13months she lets us know when she wants to go to sleep and usually does without so much as a wimper.
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Posted 11/3/13 8:57 AM |
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alli3131
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by StarsStripes
Oh good Jesus, thanks a lot for this, now I will never be able to take the baby out of my room!!
Please don't let this stupid post play into your decision. Whether you do CIO or not you will do what is best for your child and neither way will cause your child harm.
This is why these posts do no good.
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Posted 11/3/13 9:02 AM |
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Naturalmama
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Calla
I so disagree with this letter and the decision to post it. I had two daughters -- one who was happy to drift off to sleep with a snuggle, and another whose intensity made this impossible. Stop making moms feel like a failure for doing the best they can.
Yup. I feel like posting this was done with zero good intent.
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Posted 11/3/13 9:25 AM |
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
I like this letter.
"Dear Mommy,
Thank you for always trying to do your best. I know you mean well and try everything you can to keep me happy and healthy. Sometimes you try new things and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. I understand it's a learning process for us both.
I'm sorry, Mommy. I'm sorry you have to deal with so much pressure from other mommies who want to feel superior because they do something different than you. I'm sorry there's so many sanctimommies out there these days. It's almost as if no one can just do what they do - they have to announce it and look down on others (probably because they are insecure in their own parenting abilities and this is a way to feel secure). I'm sorry that instead of other mommies sharing their advice or point of view, it's instead stated as the gold standard and makes you feel your parenting will drive me to therapy. It won't.
Just love me and take care of me the best way you can. I will let you know if something is not working for me."
Not directed at OP or even the letter itself ~ just in general
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Posted 11/3/13 9:59 AM |
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july4mrsO
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Calla
I so disagree with this letter and the decision to post it. I had two daughters -- one who was happy to drift off to sleep with a snuggle, and another whose intensity made this impossible. Stop making moms feel like a failure for doing the best they can.
Yup. I feel like posting this was done with zero good intent.
Trying to make other moms feel guilty for their parenting choices (that have zero impact on YOUR life or YOUR children btw) is unnecessary and gross. Go live your own life and stop worrying about what other moms do.
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Posted 11/3/13 10:06 AM |
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Sweetlax22
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Not a mommy (yet hopefully ) so I have no opinion, but this is going to get good.
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Posted 11/3/13 11:25 AM |
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lakadema
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
And the point of posting this letter was .....
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Posted 11/3/13 11:33 AM |
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Avuteli
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by lakadema
And the point of posting this letter was .....
The point is to spread awareness ... Here I found another interesting article ... Please stop bashing and stating my post is stupid! If you disagree thats ok ... We all can have our opinions about different things in life ! This is mine and I would like to share it....
"THE BLOG Cry It Out: The Method That Kills Baby Brain Cells Denene MillnerDec 22, 2011
I know. A dramatic headline. Made you look. But it's not fiction. It turns out that the "Cry It Out" method of baby sleep training, where you ignore that your kid is screaming, crying and turning 40 shades of purple so that she can break herself out of the habit of being spoiled and cuddled to sleep, does more harm -- way more -- than good.
In her recent piece for Psychology Today, Darcia Narvaez, an associate professor of psychology at Notre Dame, writes that when babies are stressed, their bodies release cortisol into their systems -- a toxic hormone that kills brain cells. Considering their brains are only 25 percent developed when they're born full-term and grow rapidly in their first year, killing off baby brain cells is a huge no bueno. Narvaez notes that studies out of Harvard, Yale, Baylor and other prestigious institutions show that said killing off of baby brain cells can lead to the higher probability of ADHD, poor academic performance and anti-social tendencies, and that human babies are hardwired for hands-on comfort and care.
"Babies are built to expect the equivalent of an 'external womb' after birth... being held constantly, breastfed on demand, needs met quickly," Narvaez writes. "These practices are known to facilitate good brain and body development. When babies display discomfort, it signals that a need is not getting met, a need of their rapidly growing systems."
Um, remember that scene from the True Hollywood Stories: Rick James episode on the Dave Chappelle Show -- the one where Rick James is grinding his feet into Eddie Murphy's couch? Yeah. *insert an image of Denene doing the Rick James foot stomp into the couch thing here* In your face, Nick Chiles! For the record, I argued and fussed and fought with my husband over "Feberizing" our Mari. The infant self-soothing technique, invented by Dr. Richard Ferber, requires parents to let their babies "cry it out" for a predetermined amount of time, in increasing intervals, before they comfort them -- and even then, comforting involves talking to and rubbing the babies; picking them up or cuddling them is forbidden.
Now, it's been 12 years since we tried this "cry it out" thing with Mari, but I promise you, I can still hear her screaming in her crib in the next room. My breasts would throb at her every whimper, and every second on the clock would feel like an eternity while I waited for my chance to go in and pat her on her stomach, rub her arm and cheek and tell her, "it's okay, baby--Daddy promises you won't die from crying."
But I was. It just didn't feel right to let my child scream and holler and thrash by her little self in the dark in her crib when I knew full well that a little rocking in her glider, maybe a song and a sweet nuzzle of her cheek would send her off to dreamland. Granted, some nights that meant multiple rocking/singing/nuzzle time, but, to me, it was a small price to pay for feeling like I was mothering my baby and helping her feel like her mommy was there. Always there.
Of course, plenty other parents think differently about it and that's their right. We all do what we think works for our kids, our families, our lives. Not gonna point fingers at y'all. But I will point them at the hubs. When I showed this Yahoo Shine story chronicling Narvaez's anti-cry-it-out research -- and an interview in which Ferber actually backs off his own method--to Nick, he shrugged his shoulders and said, "It ain't fun for the baby, but that shit worked. Everybody got some sleep. You going for two years with only three hours of sleep at night isn't healthy either."
I think he might have said those exact words to me the first time I left Mari in her crib. Still, as much as his reasoning made sense, it just didn't feel right to me -- her mother. And when Nick told Mari we did this to her when she was a baby, she was incredulous: "What? You use to let me cry? You didn't come get me? You just left me there by myself?!"
That was Daddy, baby!
Yeah. That Ferber training didn't last long in our house, and I don't remember even trying it with my Lila. (Which might explain why our daughters' nighttime routines were a little worthy-of-a-Broadway-production hectic for longer than they should have been. But whatevs.) My babies and I benefited greatly from our nightly bonding sessions and co-sleeping arrangements, and I'm glad I did it for as long as I did.
Now that we've got this babies need to cry it out business out of the way, I've got some ideas on what researchers need to look into next: I'm waiting for the study to show that beating your kid like she stole something in what is supposed to be a friendly game of Go Fish and Checkers causes brain melt. I'm looking at you, Nicholas Chiles. I'm looking at you.
This post originally appeared on MyBrownBaby.com.
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Posted 11/3/13 12:01 PM |
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computergirl
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Boy, that sleep-trained baby from the original post is so sanctimonious. What a stick in the mud. I like the letter this baby wrote about sleep training instead. It's been posted a thousand times, but hey, he's far funnier
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Dear Fellow Babies,
OK, here’s my situation. My Mommy has had me for almost 5 months. The first few months were great – I cried, she picked me up and fed me, anytime, around the clock. Then something happened. Over the last few weeks, she has been trying to STTN (sleep thru the night). At first, I thought it was just a phase, but it is only getting worse.
I’ve talked to other babies, and it seems like its pretty common after Mommies have had us for around 5-6 months. Here’s the thing: these Mommies don’t really need to sleep. It’s just a habit. Many of them have had some 30 years to sleep – they just don’t need it anymore. So I am implementing a plan. I call it the Crybaby Shuffle.
It goes like this:
Night 1 – cry every 3 hours until you get fed. I know, it’s hard. It’s hard to see your Mommy upset over your crying. Just keep reminding yourself, it’s for her own good.
Night 2 – cry every 2 hours until you get fed.
Night 3 – every hour.
Most Mommies will start to respond more quickly after about 3 nights. Some Mommies are more alert, and may resist the change longer. These Mommies may stand in your doorway for hours, shhhh-ing. Don’t give in. I cannot stress this enough: CONSISTENCY IS KEY!! If you let her STTN (sleep through the night), just once, she will expect it every night. I know it’s hard! But she really does not need the sleep; she is just resisting the change.. If you have an especially alert Mommy, you can stop crying for about 10 minutes, just long enough for her to go back to bed and start to fall asleep. Then cry again. It WILL eventually work. My Mommy once stayed awake for 10 hours straight, so I know she can do it.
The other night, I cried every hour. You just have to decide to stick to it and just go for it. BE CONSISTENT! I cried for any reason I could come up with:
-My sleep sack tickled my foot. -I felt a wrinkle under the sheet. -My mobile made a shadow on the wall. -I burped, and it tasted like rice cereal. I hadn’t eaten rice cereal since breakfast, what’s up with that? -The dog said “ruff”. I should know. My Mommy reminds me of this about 20 times a day. LOL. -Once I cried just because I liked how it sounded when it echoed on the monitor in the other room. -Too hot, too cold, just right – doesn’t matter! Keep crying!! -I had drooled so much my sheets were damp and I didn’t like it touching me. -I decided I was sick of all the pink in my room so I cried.
It took awhile, but it worked. She fed me at 4am. Tomorrow night, my goal is 3:30am. You need to slowly shorten the interval between feedings in order to reset your Mommies’ internal clocks.
Sometimes my Mommy will call for reinforcements by sending in Daddy. Don’t worry Daddies are not set up for not needing sleep the way Mommies are. They can only handle a few pats and shhing before they declare defeat and send in the Mommy.
Also, be wary of the sleep sheep with rain noises. I like to give Mommy false hope that listening to the rain puts me to sleep sometimes I pretend to close my eyes and be asleep and then wait until I know Mommy is settling back to sleep to spring a surprise cry attack. If she doesn’t get to me fast enough I follow up with my fake cough and gag noise that always has her running to the crib. At some point I am positive she will start to realize that she really doesn’t really need sleep.
P.S. Don’t let those rubber things fool you, no matter how long you suck on them, no milk will come out.
Trust me.
Sincerely, Baby J
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ThreeforTea
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Re: Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
Posted by computergirl
Boy, that sleep-trained baby from the original post is so sanctimonious. What a stick in the mud. I like the letter this baby wrote about sleep training instead. It's been posted a thousand times, but hey, he's far funnier
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Dear Fellow Babies,
OK, here’s my situation. My Mommy has had me for almost 5 months. The first few months were great – I cried, she picked me up and fed me, anytime, around the clock. Then something happened. Over the last few weeks, she has been trying to STTN (sleep thru the night). At first, I thought it was just a phase, but it is only getting worse.
I’ve talked to other babies, and it seems like its pretty common after Mommies have had us for around 5-6 months. Here’s the thing: these Mommies don’t really need to sleep. It’s just a habit. Many of them have had some 30 years to sleep – they just don’t need it anymore. So I am implementing a plan. I call it the Crybaby Shuffle.
It goes like this:
Night 1 – cry every 3 hours until you get fed. I know, it’s hard. It’s hard to see your Mommy upset over your crying. Just keep reminding yourself, it’s for her own good.
Night 2 – cry every 2 hours until you get fed.
Night 3 – every hour.
Most Mommies will start to respond more quickly after about 3 nights. Some Mommies are more alert, and may resist the change longer. These Mommies may stand in your doorway for hours, shhhh-ing. Don’t give in. I cannot stress this enough: CONSISTENCY IS KEY!! If you let her STTN (sleep through the night), just once, she will expect it every night. I know it’s hard! But she really does not need the sleep; she is just resisting the change.. If you have an especially alert Mommy, you can stop crying for about 10 minutes, just long enough for her to go back to bed and start to fall asleep. Then cry again. It WILL eventually work. My Mommy once stayed awake for 10 hours straight, so I know she can do it.
The other night, I cried every hour. You just have to decide to stick to it and just go for it. BE CONSISTENT! I cried for any reason I could come up with:
-My sleep sack tickled my foot. -I felt a wrinkle under the sheet. -My mobile made a shadow on the wall. -I burped, and it tasted like rice cereal. I hadn’t eaten rice cereal since breakfast, what’s up with that? -The dog said “ruff”. I should know. My Mommy reminds me of this about 20 times a day. LOL. -Once I cried just because I liked how it sounded when it echoed on the monitor in the other room. -Too hot, too cold, just right – doesn’t matter! Keep crying!! -I had drooled so much my sheets were damp and I didn’t like it touching me. -I decided I was sick of all the pink in my room so I cried.
It took awhile, but it worked. She fed me at 4am. Tomorrow night, my goal is 3:30am. You need to slowly shorten the interval between feedings in order to reset your Mommies’ internal clocks.
Sometimes my Mommy will call for reinforcements by sending in Daddy. Don’t worry Daddies are not set up for not needing sleep the way Mommies are. They can only handle a few pats and shhing before they declare defeat and send in the Mommy.
Also, be wary of the sleep sheep with rain noises. I like to give Mommy false hope that listening to the rain puts me to sleep sometimes I pretend to close my eyes and be asleep and then wait until I know Mommy is settling back to sleep to spring a surprise cry attack. If she doesn’t get to me fast enough I follow up with my fake cough and gag noise that always has her running to the crib. At some point I am positive she will start to realize that she really doesn’t really need sleep.
P.S. Don’t let those rubber things fool you, no matter how long you suck on them, no milk will come out.
Trust me.
Sincerely, Baby J
Now THIS letter I !!!
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DiamondGirl
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Great read... A-letter-from-a-sleep-training-baby
The OP is clearly a nasty person looking to make other moms feel bad/inferior etc. bc she is an unhappy person. Go away OP
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