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Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

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Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

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LOS ANGELES - Autism cases in California continued to climb even after a mercury-rich vaccine preservative that some people blame for the neurological disorder was removed from routine childhood shots, a new study found.

Researchers from the state Department of Public Health found the autism rate in children rose continuously during the 12-year study period from 1995 to 2007. The preservative thimerosal hasn’t been used in childhood vaccines since 2001, but is used in some flu shots.

Doctors say the latest study adds to existing evidence refuting a link between thimerosal exposure and autism risk and should reassure parents that the disorder is not caused by vaccinations. If there was a risk, they said, autism rates should have dropped between 2004 and 2007.

The findings show “no evidence of mercury poisoning in autism” since there was no decline in autism rates even after the elimination of thimerosal, said Dr. Eric Fombonne, an autism researcher at Montreal Children’s Hospital who had no role in the research.

Some advocacy groups blame thimerosal for the impaired social interaction typical of autism. Nearly 5,000 claims alleging a vaccine-autism link have been lodged with the federal government, which is deciding whether victims should receive compensation from a government fund.

Dr. Daniel Geschwind, a neurologist at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles, said the focus now should be on exploring the causes of autism such as possible genetic links.

“Something else must be at play and we need to know what that is if we’re really serious about preventing autism,” said Geschwind, who had no connection with the study.

For their study, California public health officials calculated the autism rate by analyzing a database of state-funded centers that care for people with autism and other developmental disorders.

Autism rate rose over decade
They found the prevalence of autism in children aged 3 to 12 increased throughout the study period. For example, 0.3 per 1,000 children born in 1993 had autism at age 3 compared with 1.3 per 1,000 children born in 2003. Similar trends were found in other age groups.

“These time trends are inconsistent with the hypothesis that thimerosal exposure is a primary cause of autism in California,” the researchers wrote.

Results were published in January’s issue of the journal Archives of General Psychiatry. The study did not explore why there was an increase in autism cases.

Federal statistics show about one in 150 children in the United States have autism, higher than previous estimates. Researchers say it’s unclear if the increase is due to changes in how the disorder is classified or whether it’s an actual spike.

Autism is characterized by impaired social interaction and communication skills. There is no cure, but early therapy can lessen the severity.

Posted 1/7/08 5:35 PM
 
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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

thanks for sharing!Chat Icon

Posted 1/7/08 5:42 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I also think it's on the rise because it's a spectrum disorder, so kids that may have just seemed quirky 50 years ago, would now be diagnosed as on the spectrum. Thanks for sharing!

Posted 1/7/08 6:07 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I wish they would figure out what causes itChat Icon be it something in the mom, something in their diet, genetics with no outside force, something in their toys (yes, i mean you China)...

Posted 1/7/08 6:20 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I know that Autism is a real disorder, but I think it is becoming the ADD of our children's generation. It seems that the spectrum is so wide that almost anyone could find a place within it. Again, I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. Just that I think it is becoming a bit of a catch all diagnosis.

Posted 1/7/08 6:33 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

sometimes I wonder if its the sequence in shots...like if they switched them around...who the heck knows anymore...
its just such a terrible thing...
its also getting to where everything from china I want to throw out.
but if thats the case...why is NJ the highest rate>>>>
they are like 1 in 91 thereChat Icon

Posted 1/7/08 6:34 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

Regardless of the findings, I'm glad the mercury is out of the shots -- it can't be a good idea to shoot your baby up with mercury. Unfortunately, it doesn't really clear up the vax link, since the MMR never had thimersol in it. But I am glad to see that they are taking some steps to make vaccines safer.

Posted 1/7/08 6:38 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I'm not surprised. The studies connecting it to autism were flawed from what I've heard, and I tend to think autism is being diagnosed more today. As someone else said, kids who may have seemed quirky or eccentric when we were kids now may be diagnosed as autistic.

Posted 1/7/08 6:53 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

Posted by heidla

I know that Autism is a real disorder, but I think it is becoming the ADD of our children's generation. It seems that the spectrum is so wide that almost anyone could find a place within it. Again, I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. Just that I think it is becoming a bit of a catch all diagnosis.



i honestly don't think that's true at all. ADD is definitely misdiagnosed at times. but if you have met a child with PDD, aspergers or autism, you KNOW they have it. it's not just a "they're acting differently so they must be on the spectrum" thing. there are delayed or missed milestones and other obvious symptoms that help lead to a correct diagnosis.

i just wish they could find something that would "cure" it so all children could tell their parents they love themChat Icon

and i heard at my OBGYN today that celiac disease is somehow related to autism

Posted 1/7/08 6:57 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I truly believe that the rise in Autism is due to more diagnoses than anything else. Educational and medical professionals are so much more tuned in to the characteristics of Autism Spectrum disorders that children are being more correctly diagnosed now.

Posted 1/7/08 7:07 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

I never thought it was from shots and always said the rates would go down, not up, after thimerosol was removed from the vaccines.

Posted 1/7/08 7:37 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

Posted by purplegirl

I truly believe that the rise in Autism is due to more diagnoses than anything else. Educational and medical professionals are so much more tuned in to the characteristics of Autism Spectrum disorders that children are being more correctly diagnosed now.



ITA. kids that would have fallen through the cracks years ago are now being diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder... which is good because these kids are now getting the help they need... but bad because it makes it look like there are SO many more autistic kids than in the past...

Posted 1/7/08 9:33 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

Posted by browneyedgirl

ADD is definitely misdiagnosed at times. but if you have met a child with PDD, aspergers or autism, you KNOW they have it. it's not just a "they're acting differently so they must be on the spectrum" thing. there are delayed or missed milestones and other obvious symptoms that help lead to a correct diagnosis.



i disagree. i am a psychiatrist and work in a chidren's clinic, and i've met lots of children in which the diagnosis of PDD/aspergers/autism was not necessarily clear cut. one patient that i evaluated was 14 years old (!) and had been to numerous doctors and had even been hospitalized for psychiatric reasons and no one diagnosed him correctly...

Posted 1/7/08 9:39 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

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Posted by heidla

I know that Autism is a real disorder, but I think it is becoming the ADD of our children's generation. It seems that the spectrum is so wide that almost anyone could find a place within it. Again, I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. Just that I think it is becoming a bit of a catch all diagnosis.



i honestly don't think that's true at all. ADD is definitely misdiagnosed at times. but if you have met a child with PDD, aspergers or autism, you KNOW they have it. it's not just a "they're acting differently so they must be on the spectrum" thing. there are delayed or missed milestones and other obvious symptoms that help lead to a correct diagnosis.



I also disagree. The son of a close friend of mine has aspergers and wasn't diagnosed until he was about 11 or 12. They knew he had problems socializing at school, but they just chalked it up to not fitting in. Once he was diagnosed, my friend said so many things that she had to deal with when he was an infant and younger child made a lot more sense.

Posted 1/7/08 10:01 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

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and i heard at my OBGYN today that celiac disease is somehow related to autism




I've heard this also. I just hope that someday it is found out what causes autism Chat Icon

Posted 1/7/08 10:26 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

Posted by mosh913

I also think it's on the rise because it's a spectrum disorder, so kids that may have just seemed quirky 50 years ago, would now be diagnosed as on the spectrum. Thanks for sharing!



i agree with this idea Chat Icon

Posted 1/7/08 10:40 PM
 

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Re: Has anyone seen this? Autism cases still on rise after vaccine change

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Posted by purplegirl

I truly believe that the rise in Autism is due to more diagnoses than anything else. Educational and medical professionals are so much more tuned in to the characteristics of Autism Spectrum disorders that children are being more correctly diagnosed now.



ITA. kids that would have fallen through the cracks years ago are now being diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder... which is good because these kids are now getting the help they need... but bad because it makes it look like there are SO many more autistic kids than in the past...



i agree with this also!

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