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BaroqueMama
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I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

that post about "dry-drowning" the other day has me freaked out beyond belief. Ava went in the pool for the first time this season today, and now I'm petrified that she's going to die in her sleep. Neurotic, I know, but I can't help it!Chat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 7:54 PM
 
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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I can't even read those postsChat Icon Chat Icon

Ava pics please, those would cheer me upChat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 8:02 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

It is also called water intoxication. Depending on how old your child is, depends on how much water they can 'handle' in a day. As a swim instructor, we were trained in what to do with children. MIL wanted to take DS yesterday into our big pool. I refused because I have not taught her yet in the ways of the pool. (Just so everybody knows, it can happen in the bathtub too.)

Just so you know, if you're watching your child and know how much they ingest, you shouldn't be scared. It's horrible to say, but most men I know were the culprits in letting their kids take in too much water. They are the ones that say 'Look honey, he LOVES to go under water!!!!!!' (And they do it again and again, not knowing they were taking in water.) Underwater, most babies and children inhale the water, or drink it. It's in their nature. (That's what they do in the amniotic sac)

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Posted 6/8/08 8:08 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I freaked out after I read that too and was so nervous when I gave Todd Jr a bath cause he got some water in his mouth and started to cough, I freaked out and was asking my DH if he was ok the whole night--lol

Posted 6/8/08 8:11 PM
 

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You have to see how nervous I get durning bath time Chat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 8:17 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

After that post, I am so paranoid about giving Joey a bath. I completely understand where you are coming from. Chat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 8:19 PM
 

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Posted by prncss

that post about "dry-drowning" the other day has me freaked out beyond belief. Ava went in the pool for the first time this season today, and now I'm petrified that she's going to die in her sleep. Neurotic, I know, but I can't help it!Chat Icon



I totally feel the same way you do.

Posted 6/8/08 9:08 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I completely understand how you feel - after I read that post it I have thought about it every time I bathe him. Chat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 9:10 PM
 

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I felt the same way too - particularly because my kids are going to FL to MIL's house - her house with a pool.

The only thing I try to remember is how often it happens. I have never once heard of it happening before this news article.

Kelly - thanks for clarifying it further for me. It does give me peace of mind in knowing more about how it happens.

Posted 6/8/08 10:08 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I WAS JUST GONNA post this. Noah was drinking the baby pool water today and I'm freaked out!!

Posted 6/8/08 10:09 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I have been thinking of this as well...and I am so scared to let Kerri in the water now....your not the only oneChat Icon

Posted 6/8/08 10:09 PM
 

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Posted by prncss

that post about "dry-drowning" the other day has me freaked out beyond belief. Ava went in the pool for the first time this season today, and now I'm petrified that she's going to die in her sleep. Neurotic, I know, but I can't help it!Chat Icon



Where is this post? I am very curious now. Thanks!

Nevermind - just did a search and found it.

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Posted 6/8/08 10:29 PM
 

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Posted by waterspout4

It is also called water intoxication. Depending on how old your child is, depends on how much water they can 'handle' in a day. As a swim instructor, we were trained in what to do with children. MIL wanted to take DS yesterday into our big pool. I refused because I have not taught her yet in the ways of the pool. (Just so everybody knows, it can happen in the bathtub too.)

Just so you know, if you're watching your child and know how much they ingest, you shouldn't be scared. It's horrible to say, but most men I know were the culprits in letting their kids take in too much water. They are the ones that say 'Look honey, he LOVES to go under water!!!!!!' (And they do it again and again, not knowing they were taking in water.) Underwater, most babies and children inhale the water, or drink it. It's in their nature. (That's what they do in the amniotic sac)



Can you explain more about how this happens? My daughter was in her baby pool today and was drinking the water and it freaked me out!!! I am also a wreck when I give her a bath because I have to pour water over her head to rinse the shampoo and I'm pretty sure she breathes some in because she hates it and gets upset....please help with more details about how to prevent this from happening!

TIA

Posted 6/8/08 11:00 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

Surely you can "dry drown" if you drink too much water.

Posted 6/9/08 3:50 AM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

no...that post bugged me too.
I cannot tell u how much water my older two swallowed when they were younger...ugh...

Posted 6/9/08 6:45 AM
 

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Posted by racheeeee

Surely you can "dry drown" if you drink too much water.



This isn't drinking water, it's breathing in water into the lungs.

Posted 6/9/08 6:48 AM
 

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I am a pretty laid back mom too- maybe too laid back - but that article terrified me. They were on the slip and slide and I kept warning them to keep their mouths open when they got to the end.

Actually - I should probably be banned from reading a lot of things because I am constantly getting sick thinking of different ways that my children might get sick or be injured or worse.

I just read an article in Good Housekeeping about amusement park rides that frightened the mess out of me. And I am sitting there thinking - 'no fairs, no pools, no bikes, no skateboards, no rollerskates, no boats..." Good thing my husband is a little more rational than I am - or these poor kids would have no fun at all!

Posted 6/9/08 7:02 AM
 

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After reading that post I freak out too.
It's so scary.Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/08 8:48 AM
 

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Posted by jlp63

Posted by waterspout4

It is also called water intoxication. Depending on how old your child is, depends on how much water they can 'handle' in a day. As a swim instructor, we were trained in what to do with children. MIL wanted to take DS yesterday into our big pool. I refused because I have not taught her yet in the ways of the pool. (Just so everybody knows, it can happen in the bathtub too.)

Just so you know, if you're watching your child and know how much they ingest, you shouldn't be scared. It's horrible to say, but most men I know were the culprits in letting their kids take in too much water. They are the ones that say 'Look honey, he LOVES to go under water!!!!!!' (And they do it again and again, not knowing they were taking in water.) Underwater, most babies and children inhale the water, or drink it. It's in their nature. (That's what they do in the amniotic sac)



Can you explain more about how this happens? My daughter was in her baby pool today and was drinking the water and it freaked me out!!! I am also a wreck when I give her a bath because I have to pour water over her head to rinse the shampoo and I'm pretty sure she breathes some in because she hates it and gets upset....please help with more details about how to prevent this from happening!

TIA



Typically, drinking the water is fine. It's when they inhale it that some problems can occur. With infants, you should not let them underwater more than 3 times per day and toddler are less than 6 times per day. (This is only for one second each a time)

They can inhale water so quick through their nose that you'd never even know. That's why you just have to stick with limiting the water in their face. (This does not mean you beat up older children around yours if they splash your child.) Again, limit their time UNDERWATER. If you are proficient in going underwater with goggles, you can typically see them inhaling through their nose.

To teach them early, everytime you get water near their face, blow raspberries. Everytime!!!! (Whether putting them underwater, or if they get splashed, or you pour water on their face.) They will learn in a few months to do that. So, if they are blowing out, they can't inhale. (But, they can quickly go from exhale to inhale, so it's really just beginning to help them. This is why you do things in small time increments. Everybody when they get scared will typically inhale immediately.) As I mentioned before, fathers are notorious for just being goofballs when it comes to putting their kids underwater. So, you want to let them know the rules too.

It's a rare thing for a child to develop this condition. Just look for the warning signs. (I know a few are being quite lethargic in the 12-24 hours after being in the water, or wheezing, or coughing when out of the water.) But I'm sure you can find the exact warning signs elsewhere.

I wasn't a big fan of Biology in school, so I don't know much about WHY it happens. But if you want to ask about thundersorms, hurricanes or waterspouts (my obvious favorite), then I know more details! Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/08 9:06 AM
 

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I just the story, how sad. Very, very scary.

Posted 6/9/08 9:26 AM
 

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OMG how scary. Last week on vaca before even seeing this I was terrified that DS was doing this and then one day wheezing terribly. I dont know if I'll let him in for a while Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/08 7:46 PM
 

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Re: I am a very, very laid back mom, however....

I am a huge worry wart and the article really scared me when I read it but then I did some research that made me feel a lot better.

This condition is very rare. Only about 100 kids a year get this and there are approximately 73.6 million children in the US. So as a percentage it is very, very small.

Secondly, the condition is essentially tantamount to aspiration. Theoretically, someone can aspirate even while eating or drinking. But we cannot worry about the remote possibility.

As my friend who is a physician said to me once - "What is rare is rare and what is common is common". While it is still scary and tragic I think we should take solace in the fact that fortunately it does not happen often.
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Posted 6/9/08 8:32 PM
 

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Just an FYI, Dry drowning and water intoxication are 2 different things. They are not the same things.

Water intoxication (also known as hyperhydration or water poisoning) is a potentially fatal disturbance in brain function that results when the normal balance of electrolytes in the body is pushed outside of safe limits by water.[1] Normal, healthy (both physically and nutritionally) individuals have little to worry about accidentally consuming too much water. Nearly all deaths related to water intoxication in normal individuals have resulted either from water drinking contests, in which individuals attempt to consume more than ten litres over the course of just a few minutes, or long bouts of intensive exercise during which electrolytes are not properly replenished, yet massive amounts of fluid are still consumed.



Dry drowning
is when a person's lungs become unable to extract oxygen from the air, due primarily to:

*Muscular paralysis
*Puncture wound to the torso (affecting ability of diaphragm to create respiratory movement)
*Changes to the oxygen-absorbing tissues
*Persistence of laryngospasm when immersed in fluid
*Breathing for too long any gas other than oxygen that does not kill the patient on its own. (e.g. Helium)

The person may effectively drown without any sort of fluid. In cases of dry drowning in which the victim was immersed, very little fluid is aspirated into the lungs. The laryngospasm reflex essentially causes asphyxiation and neurogenic pulmonary edema (oedema).

Dry drowning can occur clinically, or due to illness or accident, or be deliberately (and repeatedly) induced in torture (waterboarding).






~Sucking water into the lungs is different then taking in too much water than ones body can handle.



Posted by stickydust

Secondly, the condition is essentially tantamount to aspiration. Theoretically, someone can aspirate even while eating or drinking. But we cannot worry about the remote possibility.




She is right, dry drowing is the same idea as aspiration. My son was hospitalized at 1 month old from aspirating on his formula. It could happen to any one (not just babies or young kids) but it wouldn't make much since to stress about it since it is rare.



Posted 6/9/08 9:11 PM
 

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Why do they allow infants that don't know how to hold their breath take swimming lessons at all? I don't think I'd even want to risk, as rare as it is. Playing at home in the pool is one thing, but purposely dunking them under the water is another.

Posted 6/9/08 9:47 PM
 

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Posted by Summerrluvv

Why do they allow infants that don't know how to hold their breath take swimming lessons at all?



If I had a pool in my backyard my kids would have taken them as early as possible.

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