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Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

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"The vaccines given were those recommended for U.S. infants in the 1990s, including several with the mercury preservative thimerosal and the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine."

But since 2001 they removed preservatives and mercury from vaccines and kids are still being diagnosed autistic.

I am still very speculative of that research.

Right. Why wouldn't they conduct the study using today's parameters?? The study is suspicious, at best...imo.



maybe because they are looking for causes?



According to the objective in the study, they absolutely were, which is not a legitimate study, unfortunately....

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

I should also add that animals in captivity do display autistic-like behavior due to depression....

Posted 5/22/08 6:06 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by jules

Posted by ~Colleen~

Posted by LuvMy2Girls

"The vaccines given were those recommended for U.S. infants in the 1990s, including several with the mercury preservative thimerosal and the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine."

But since 2001 they removed preservatives and mercury from vaccines and kids are still being diagnosed autistic.

I am still very speculative of that research.

Right. Why wouldn't they conduct the study using today's parameters?? The study is suspicious, at best...imo.



maybe because they are looking for causes?



According to the objective in the study, they absolutely were, which is not a legitimate study, unfortunately....



ITA. And this is what the problem is I think. Most people will read and just take it for fact, without really knowing all the information utilized during the "study".

Posted 5/22/08 6:06 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

Isn't thimerosal sitll used in a lot of Hep B shots?

Posted 5/22/08 6:08 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

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I should also add that animals in captivity do display autistic-like behavior due to depression....



Yes so then how can anyone really associate it with another variable?

I still can't buy into this experiment at all...TOO many extraneous agents

Posted 5/22/08 6:09 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

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Posted by lipglossjunky73

I should also add that animals in captivity do display autistic-like behavior due to depression....



Yes so then how can anyone really associate it with another variable?

I still can't buy into this experiment at all...TOO many extraneous agents



My thoughts exactly.

Posted 5/22/08 6:41 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

Posted by jules

Posted by lipglossjunky73

I should also add that animals in captivity do display autistic-like behavior due to depression....



Yes so then how can anyone really associate it with another variable?

I still can't buy into this experiment at all...TOO many extraneous agents



I agree but you (all of us!) owe it to ourself to also agree that there "MAY/COULD" be a correlation.

None of us are researchers. We don't know the whole story.

I am in no way knowledgeable to know who is right and who isn't.

So I like to hear both sides of the story.

Posted 5/22/08 6:43 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

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I agree but you (all of us!) owe it to ourself to also agree that there "MAY/COULD" be a correlation.

None of us are researchers. We don't know the whole story.

I am in no way knowledgeable to know who is right and who isn't.

So I like to hear both sides of the story.



ok...i don't think i said anything different. In fact my previous post just pretty much said exactly what you wrote. The part that we owe it to ourselves to be informed (at least i thinkthat is what you meant).

OF couse there could/can be a correlation. I just personally do not believe that THIS particular study proves anything at all (as per my reasons above)

When it comes to research there rarely is a RIGHT and Wrong. Just theories.

I definitely want to hear ALL sides of everything. But as someone who is a parent it is my perogative to critique said research and decide for myself what i believe or not believe.

I also am smart enough to draw conclusions and to speculate on said research. THAT is what everyone should do.

Posted 5/22/08 7:37 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

FDA/CBER Thimerosal in Vaccines

Actually there is a flu shot without any mercury or preservative in it. My girls got it both times the last 2 years.

The link is a chart from the FDA showing the ingredients in ALL vaccines.

The HIB vaccine has NO thimersal btw according to that chart.

I'm not saying vaccines can't or don't have some kind of trigger in UNDERLYING diseases, but i still think genetics plays A MUCH bigger role.


Posted 5/22/08 7:57 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

I always consult this link on vax. There are a number of vax that still contain thimerosal but it is mostly in flu vaccines.
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

Posted 5/22/08 8:02 PM
 

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Re: Infant Vaccines Produce Autism Symptoms in New Primate Study by University of Pittsburgh Scientists

Posted by jules

Posted by smdl

I agree but you (all of us!) owe it to ourself to also agree that there "MAY/COULD" be a correlation.

None of us are researchers. We don't know the whole story.

I am in no way knowledgeable to know who is right and who isn't.

So I like to hear both sides of the story.



ok...i don't think i said anything different. In fact my previous post just pretty much said exactly what you wrote. The part that we owe it to ourselves to be informed (at least i thinkthat is what you meant).

OF couse there could/can be a correlation. I just personally do not believe that THIS particular study proves anything at all (as per my reasons above)

When it comes to research there rarely is a RIGHT and Wrong. Just theories.

I definitely want to hear ALL sides of everything. But as someone who is a parent it is my perogative to critique said research and decide for myself what i believe or not believe.

I also am smart enough to draw conclusions and to speculate on said research. THAT is what everyone should do.



I did not imply that you said anything "different" either but we can't rule out any study.

What I am saying is that I am personally not sure how to interprete those studies. Even on a "gut" feeling! I am also not sure of their creditials to dismiss it completely either.

Posted 5/22/08 8:09 PM
 
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