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whyteach
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Leave replacement (LI)
A few questions if you are or have been hired as a leave replacement.
How many of you were hired as a leave replacement, then hired with a permanent position?
Do you get benefits and are you on a 12 month pay salary if you work as a leave replacement.
****** Currently have a full time job, but looking to make a change. I know a leave replacement is a good way to get your foot in the door, but im not sure if its too risky to leave what i have now for something that might not be permanent.
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Posted 9/17/17 10:37 PM  |
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MrsT809
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Leave replacement (LI)
I think it really depends and you can always ask about that potential when you're interviewing. I had a half year leave replacement and got no benefits, paid per diem but it was 1/5th a normal salary so I was happy enough with that right out of school. After the spring passed I was brought back to interview for a probationary position and was offered that. I ended up passing and taking a full year leave replacement elsewhere which quickly turned into a probationary position. That was regular pay and benefits.
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| Posted 9/18/17 7:26 AM |
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MichLiz213
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Leave replacement (LI)
I had four leaves in the same school. It did not lead to a job there (they were still working off the call back list for excessed teachers for any positions that opened up), but my principal there gave me glowing recommendations for the two districts I did wind up getting permanent positions.
I was paid as a sub for three out of four of them. The only one I was paid salary and offered benefits was my last one, because it lasted almost a full year and the teacher I was covering had burned through all of her sick days. So it depends.
Message edited 9/18/2017 6:37:14 PM.
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| Posted 9/18/17 6:36 PM |
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MrsM84
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Leave replacement (LI)
As previous poster said, they can't offer you anything unless they've offered the new position to any teachers that are on the preferred eligibility list. That list goes by area of tenure and is for any tenured teacher that was excessed in the district. Keep in mind that excessing isn't only when an entire teaching position is eliminated, but it's any reduction in employment from full-time. If you were full time one year, and then let's say due to low enrollment, they drop you down to a .6 position (at a high school, that means you teach 3 classes everyday), you're technically considered excessed and would go on the list for the next full time position that is available. Do you have any idea if there were teachers in your license area that were excessed in the district the leave replacement position is in? As for pay, my district pays leaves as permanent sub for a certain number of days. Once you work the consecutive number of days required (not sure of the exact amount but it's a while -- 3 or 4 months), you would be a salaried employee and paid according to the step schedule in the union contract.
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| Posted 9/18/17 9:48 PM |
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LITeachTeach
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Member since 7/11 140 total posts
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Re: Leave replacement (LI)
Posted by whyteach
A few questions if you are or have been hired as a leave replacement.
How many of you were hired as a leave replacement, then hired with a permanent position?
Do you get benefits and are you on a 12 month pay salary if you work as a leave replacement.
****** Currently have a full time job, but looking to make a change. I know a leave replacement is a good way to get your foot in the door, but im not sure if its too risky to leave what i have now for something that might not be permanent.
Are you in a different field and looking to become a teacher or would you leave a permanent job for a leave replacement?
If you are in a tenured or tenure-track position and feel it is not detrimental to your physical and mental health, then stay there until you find another permanent position. Tenure-track jobs DO open up mid-year and that is how I obtain my first Long Island tenure-track position.
When you go for a leave replacement they (central and building admin) will say things like "if this works out we'll find something for you, etc." They are saying that because they want to entice the strongest possible candidate to take their leave replacement. When it is actually time to fill a tenure-track position, you will almost definitely be considered if you did a good job, but so too will other permanent subs and leave replacements in the districts. So too will all the people from the city clamoring to obtain a LI position. So too will people getting excessed from other districts. So too will people who have a lower salary scheduled in their current districts. So too will people who are relocating on the Island for various reasons. So too will parents returning from childcare leave. So too will be the superintendent's secretary's daughter's sorority sister who is graduating from grad school with awesome credentials (you get the point...) There are absolutely no guarantees once a leave replacement is over. in fact, if a district official is promising something tenure-track that would be a red flag to me because they know not that's not realistic.
Leave replacements that go well will definitely help you. After my first leave replacement, my asst. sup't. wrote a glowing reference letter, helped me obtain interviews in districts with vacancies, and is still a big mentor to me. But do not leave a tenure-track for a leave replacement unless you have an abusive principal, for example, that is making your life miserable.
Also, I wanted to correct the previous poster with regard to seniority lists. Seniority lists go by length of service in the district not by tenured status. I was excessed from my first LI tenure-track job while I was still probationary. The seniority list does not distinguish between tenured and tenure-track. So, for example let's say Mrs. M starts 9/2014 and Mr. K starts 9/2015. Mrs. M is tenured 9/2016 because it used to be just 2 years to tenure for previously tenured. However, Mrs. M went on childcare leave in 11/2016 (after using sick days you no longer accrue seniority days). Mr. K is not tenured yet but if he has more days of service he's going to be above Mrs. M on seniority list.
ETA: Didn't answer pay and benefits questions - it is completely depending on the District. You need to find out from the District if you're eligible for salary and benefits. I did one leave in a district where I was paid the annual salary of a MA/Step 1 Teacher but only per day. In another district, I was paid as a substitute teacher. It is COMPLETELY dependent on the district. You need to find this out in writing before you accept/decline.
Hope this helps.
Message edited 9/21/2017 8:15:35 AM.
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| Posted 9/21/17 8:12 AM |
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