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DebG
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Can you ever use a companies logo with out perrmission?
Can you ever use a companies name without permission?
Where does freedom of speac end and defamation or slander begin.
I am so confused.
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LIFamilies
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Re: Legal Chat
Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:47 PM |
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HarleyGirlFLA
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The company I work for has a program called the travel program. When you purchase the travel program, you become a Gullivers Referral Travel agent. Which means in accordance to the agreement that the GRTA that the person signs (Gullivers Referral Travel Agent) and the training manual you are to refer customers to us. The GRTA still makes the commission however they are not to be involved in the booking procedure.
Any GRTA that wants to do promotions, advertisements, marketing has to submit to the company for approval. The company wants to make sure that you are providing the correct information. Any wrong information can lead to serious lawsuits and a lot of angry people.
We prefer our GRTA's to not be involved in the booking procedure because of Liability and Omissins. If we give a quote and they pass it to someone else, it is possible they can misquote. Granted Fares are subject to change and not guaranteed until ticketed it's chances the company does not want to take. We already lost almost $1000 on a misquote. But thats what insurance is for 
So you cant use a companies name or logo without their permission because of false advertising, and the risk of providing the wrong information.
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:48 PM |
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Its definite copyright and/or trademark infringement to use a company's logo or name without permission
I'm a legal admin assistant and my boss is the chair of our patent/trademark/copyright department at our lawfirm ... if you have any specific quesitons Deb, I'd be happy to ask him for you ..
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:48 PM |
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DebG
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Posted by LIFamilies
Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:49 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Legal Chat
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Posted by LIFamilies
Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
Just wanted to join in and say NEXTEL does S*CK!!!!!
 Tmobile for me.
Now back to your regular brodcast! And Im back to my Watermelon Martini.
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:51 PM |
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Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
I'm guessing here, but I"m sure that in due time (once Nextel's legal eagles get wind of it) they would be able to shut them down with some fancy schmantzy paperwork (i.e, threats of lawsuit) 
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LIFamilies
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Re: Legal Chat
Posted by DebG
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Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
probably for the same reason I didn't do anything with the person that made a LIWsucks site. Publicity good or bad is publicity. It backfires on the person that developes it because the company that so called s ucks receives more business. kinda funny, you know?
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:53 PM |
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DebG
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Re: Legal Chat
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Posted by LIFamilies
Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
I'm guessing here, but I"m sure that in due time (once Nextel's legal eagles get wind of it) they would be able to shut them down with some fancy schmantzy paperwork (i.e, threats of lawsuit)
My business had a *****.com site against them and we put that poor person into the ground in paperwork and legal fee's.
Just trying to learn more about it because I am facsinated.
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LIFamilies
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BTW it's nextelsucks.org not .com!
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Re: Legal Chat
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Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
probably for the same reason I didn't do anything with the person that made a LIWsucks site. Publicity good or bad is publicity. It backfires on the person that developes it because the company that so called s ucks receives more business. kinda funny, you know?
i remember that one!
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DebG
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probably for the same reason I didn't do anything with the person that made a LIWsucks site. Publicity good or bad is publicity. It backfires on the person that developes it because the company that so called s ucks receives more business. kinda funny, you know?
I guess they gave up....cause I couldnt find aformentioned site.
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Re: Legal Chat
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Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
probably for the same reason I didn't do anything with the person that made a LIWsucks site. Publicity good or bad is publicity. It backfires on the person that developes it because the company that so called s ucks receives more business. kinda funny, you know?
Oh yeah, what he said
Good point, actually - any type of publicity is often good publicity, sad as that sounds..
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:56 PM |
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DebG
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Flee...what do you know about an organization called WIPO?
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:56 PM |
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LIFamilies
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Re: Legal Chat
bringing a suit against someone goes farther than the suit. the big question is can they afford the defense.
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:56 PM |
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HarleyGirlFLA
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Re: Legal Chat
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Posted by DebG
Posted by LIFamilies
Using a company logo or name isn't slanderous (unless of course you use it that way) it's more like copyright and trademark infringement.
how does sites like nextelsucks.com and those type of sitse stay open?
I'm guessing here, but I"m sure that in due time (once Nextel's legal eagles get wind of it) they would be able to shut them down with some fancy schmantzy paperwork (i.e, threats of lawsuit)
My business had a *****.com site against them and we put that poor person into the ground in paperwork and legal fee's.
Just trying to learn more about it because I am facsinated.
It really is interesting.
We have ID cards that we provide to certain people and if they choose to cancel that service they have to surrendar their ID card. If they dont and we find out they used it, we'll go after them for defrauding the company.
Isnt the law great
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june262004
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Re: Legal Chat
But now they have a new site. 
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Re: Legal Chat
Posted by LIFamilies
probably for the same reason I didn't do anything with the person that made a LIWsucks site. Publicity good or bad is publicity. It backfires on the person that developes it because the company that so called s ucks receives more business. kinda funny, you know?
I didn't know somebody did that!!   Though I don't know why I'm surprised.
You are so right though - it really does backfire on them. 
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bringing a suit against someone goes farther than the suit. the big question is can they afford the defense.
Exactly, usually just being served the paperwork and being faced with the threat of being sued will force these infringing losers to go defunct .. often they KNOW full well they cannot and will not win if they fight it out - and since it takes YEARS to have these things litigated (and as we all know attorneys' fees are insane) , they pretty much just agree to shut down and avoid further litigation
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DebG
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Seriously, I am fascinated by the law.
So complex, so definite and yet sooo grey.
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| Posted 5/13/05 9:59 PM |
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LIFamilies
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Re: Legal Chat
LIW just brought a copyright/trademark suit against one company with two others pending. The first is folding because it will cost over $100,000 to defend. They simply can not afford to defend. Even if they did they would loose becaue of what they did. But the big question in a suit is the cost of the law firm that will handle yoru case.
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june262004
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Re: Legal Chat
Posted by LIFamilies
LIW just brought a copyright/trademark suit against one company with two others pending. The first is folding because it will cost over $100,000 to defend. They simply can not afford to defend. Even if they did they would loose becaue of what they did. But the big question in a suit is the cost of the law firm that will handle yoru case.
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| Posted 5/13/05 10:00 PM |
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FeliciaDP
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Re: Legal Chat
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Flee...what do you know about an organization called WIPO?
World Intellectual Property Organization?
Um.. I know the organization, not sure how MUCH I really know, though
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| Posted 5/13/05 10:00 PM |
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DebG
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Re: Legal Chat
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Flee...what do you know about an organization called WIPO?
World Intellectual Property Organization?
Um.. I know the organization, not sure how MUCH I really know, though
Could you ask your boss more about them?
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| Posted 5/13/05 10:01 PM |
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DebG
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Posted by LIFamilies
LIW just brought a copyright/trademark suit against one company with two others pending. The first is folding because it will cost over $100,000 to defend. They simply can not afford to defend. Even if they did they would loose becaue of what they did. But the big question in a suit is the cost of the law firm that will handle yoru case.
OK so I plan to do copyright/trademark infringement...I should go to Law school first so that I can defend myself and afford legal fees.
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NAAWWW I am just kidding.
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