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dpli
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Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Personally, I would call CPS myself. I know you are angry about your daughter and you are justified in wanting them to separate her from your DD. I can't help but wonder what is going on with this kid, though, and think that she might need some protecting too.
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JDubs
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Any update on this ? Did they end up removing her from the class?
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| Posted 12/15/14 1:00 PM |
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Xelindrya
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Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
They have not removed her
I am not pleased. They seem to not recall the previous times I had mentioned her. Nor did they have the information from the aftercare.
So we have a sit down meeting on Friday the 19th with the teacher, vice principal, principal, counselor, aftercare director and I. Should be interesting. I told the principal "I don't know what you expect, my answer is the same, take the girl away from my child's daily contact or I give the number to the district police" They seem to think since it only happens after school or at recess that taking her out will make no diff as all the 1st grades eat and recess together. I however disagree and can show my daughter only plays with those in her class, all else are secondary. out of sight out of mind.
I'll update you after that meeting.
I think they are mostly just shocked exactly how pissed off I am and how quickly I'm willing to push for the full maximum punishment on what they consider a first time, one time thing.
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| Posted 12/15/14 2:51 PM |
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JDubs
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Sorry to hear they haven't removed her, good luck at your meeting, I think you are doing the right thing.
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| Posted 12/15/14 2:54 PM |
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LSP2005
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
The school is in lawyer up mode already based upon the replies you wrote. I would call CPS and file a police report while the incident is still "fresh." If you wait too long the police may not be as responsive, sadly. They want to call your bluff, like a poker game and think you are not going to do anything. I am sure they have seen upset parents and threat before, so for them delaying is the name of the game.
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| Posted 12/15/14 6:09 PM |
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Posted by LSP2005
The school is in lawyer up mode already based upon the replies you wrote. I would call CPS and file a police report while the incident is still "fresh." If you wait too long the police may not be as responsive, sadly. They want to call your bluff, like a poker game and think you are not going to do anything. I am sure they have seen upset parents and threat before, so for them delaying is the name of the game.
I agree. Don't wait on the filing of the police report. At least get it in writing and you can press charges I believe after the meeting. I was bullied in school. Someone wrote on a desk "I'm going to kill (my name)". My dad made phone call after phone call. Finally he went up there with a police officer. I was removed from all classes with that student and he never spoke to me again. Actions speak louder than words when it comes to schools.
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| Posted 12/16/14 8:19 AM |
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
If you are this angry/upset about the incident and have been threatening to call the police, I don't think you should wait. If you are going to do it- just do it. The school will wait and wait...
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| Posted 12/16/14 8:27 AM |
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Posted by BaysideForever
If you are this angry/upset about the incident and have been threatening to call the police, I don't think you should wait. If you are going to do it- just do it. The school will wait and wait...
Yep. While your case is very serious it's almost certainly not the only behavior related situation the school is dealing with. I was a teacher and noticed that the parents who were proactive and hounded the administration were the ones who were most likely to be satisfied with how a situation was resolved.
I also agree with posters who said you may want to contact CPS because that's just not a normal thing. We had a similar situation when my DD was in kindergarten. Another child on her bus bit her (she was one of several), but this same child tried to pull down another little girl's pants and threatened to kill her. It was kind of ridiculous what we had to go through to get attention from the school and that was also when I learned to do everything via email because my calls were not being returned. I was very close to cc'ing the superintendent when the school finally did something for the child.
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| Posted 12/16/14 9:04 AM |
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MrsD121011
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
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I was informed that since the girl did not seek sexual arousal or pleasure by touching her there, its NOT sexual harassment or assault.
I don't buy that for a minute. It sounds like she knew plain and well that it was a "private" part and that's why she went for that region.
Agreed, this was absolutely sexual assault. I would take it to the police at this point.
I absolutley agree especially because it was in retaliation for AJ kissing a boy. She obviously correlates the two in a sexual manner. What a terrible situation. Poor AJ! I would go to the cops especially since the school is being so lazy about it. You see things like this and then wonder why they all stand there on the news going we just cant understand what happend when these types of kids go off the deep end, when parents of classmates have been warning them for years! So sad...
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| Posted 12/16/14 12:13 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Posted by LSP2005
The school is in lawyer up mode already based upon the replies you wrote. I would call CPS and file a police report while the incident is still "fresh." If you wait too long the police may not be as responsive, sadly. They want to call your bluff, like a poker game and think you are not going to do anything. I am sure they have seen upset parents and threat before, so for them delaying is the name of the game.
I agree completely with this. I cannot believe how the school is handling this!! Seems like they are just waiting you out and hoping you calm down. I would call the school to let them know you will be reporting this to CPS and possibly the police and then do not hesitate to make the call immediately.
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| Posted 12/16/14 4:14 PM |
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WannaBeAMom11
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Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Reading this just makes me sad for your dd. I'd call cps and the police and see what they say. That child's behavior does not sound right.
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Xelindrya
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Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
I promised an update so here we go
Big group on Friday to talk. They just wanted to 'hear' what I had to say which is STUPID. They think it is just kids and not that big of a deal but 'understand my feelings"
I repeatedly said I want her out of my daughter's class. Finally the principal addressed that. Very softly and said she did not see cause to remove her. I interrupted her and said "Then this discussion is over." I will call the district police but will allow ONE small concession. I want that monster's parents to know first. They have the right to remove her from that room as much as I have to remove AJ if I wanted. Since I'd appreciate the same courtesy you have until Tuesday the 6th and I will put this brat on record.
They kept saying AJ seeks her out to play with her and is nice to her. I said sure, because my daughter is kind and friendly so its her FAULT she's abused. Is that how we are raising our girls? Wear a fancy skirt and asked to be raped, play with a manipulative brat and you're asking for abuse?
NO ONE SAID A WORD
I want that shit away from my daughter. I am not sure how much more clear I need to be. And if they thought for one MOMENT that a week's time would have cooled me off. They have no IDEA what they are up against!
I may not have money or live behind the pretty gated community down the road, but I have the will power and the guts to stand up to what's wrong even if they won't. I told them "YOUR RULES are set up specifically to PROTECT my child from THIS exact thing. If you choose to ignore your own procedures I will force them onto you! Because its acts like this at an age this young that will SAVE a child or several children from an over dramatic spoiled entitled child that everyone will say "She was so liked, we don't know how she got so mean" Liked doesn't mean she's nice! and Being Nice (my AJ) doesn't mean she's ok with it."
They promise to call me on Monday the 5th. But I will move forward if for no other reason than to hope to protect the next child.
Oh and NO ONE In the room denied that this other girl is a little bit of a handful. Or they said "loud and forward" nor did they deny my daughter is "kind and caring for all" I said "keep this up and she'll learn from the squeaky wheel and you will be the reason she will be corrupted and become cynical and cruel. Because obviously telling the teachers and adults something's wrong has had NO EFFECT in changing her world for the better at all, now has it?"
And this..
"My daughter is 6yrs old. You are adults. You by default say "they are kids" you've said it more than once while I have sat here for 10mins. But I have news for you. She is a human being with complex emotions and feelings. You are unable to communicate with her as an equal because you lack the ability to see her as anything other than a student and a child. I do not blame you. But I am her mother. I treat her as an equal and she has every right to her frustrations, anger and fears as much as you. You may not hear her clearly but it is my responsibility to express her anger and desires to you. You may not listen to her and you may not listen to me, but I have to try. Because until you see her at 18, you will never give her the equal right that you do your peers."
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Adriana
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
wow, go you!
I can only hope that if god forbid if any one of my children have a situation at school I handle it with as strong convictions as you did.
keep on keeping on!
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DancinBarefoot
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Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Veronica - don't wait until the new year. File the police report NOW!! Get it on record. Document all your efforts to resolve this. It seems obvious that the parents of the other child think she is perfect and can do no wrong. I doubt they will move their child. Instead, I would guess, they will turn it around and say it was AJ's fault and their child should not be punished.
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JDubs
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Veronica - don't wait until the new year. File the police report NOW!! Get it on record. Document all your efforts to resolve this. It seems obvious that the parents of the other child think she is perfect and can do no wrong. I doubt they will move their child. Instead, I would guess, they will turn it around and say it was AJ's fault and their child should not be punished.
I agree. It seems like the school is just waiting for everything to blow over and so I would want something documented in case something ever happens again.
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| Posted 12/22/14 4:44 PM |
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moonmist09
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Re: Mad Mama Rant: kid at her school - note to the little brat who hurt my kid
Posted by Xelindrya
"My daughter is 6yrs old. You are adults. You by default say "they are kids" you've said it more than once while I have sat here for 10mins. But I have news for you. She is a human being with complex emotions and feelings. You are unable to communicate with her as an equal because you lack the ability to see her as anything other than a student and a child. I do not blame you. But I am her mother. I treat her as an equal and she has every right to her frustrations, anger and fears as much as you. You may not hear her clearly but it is my responsibility to express her anger and desires to you. You may not listen to her and you may not listen to me, but I have to try. Because until you see her at 18, you will never give her the equal right that you do your peers."
 i couldn't have said this any better myself. you get a standing ovation from me.
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