Malverne school district

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I graduated from Malverne HS in '87.
I would not send my children there.

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I absolutely LOVE Malverne - but wouldn't send my kids to the schools.

I grew up there - we went to private school.

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Bobby why wouldn't you send your kids there?

The district has changed quite a bit since '87

The grammar schools are great. The middle school has won the blue ribbon award. And the highschool has seen amazing improvements in the last few years.

People will say it isn't a good district but don't have much to back it up. It is a very diverse population. Maybe thats why people don't think it is good? I think people say it isn't good because that is the reputation it has always had. I would look it up on the great schools website. Also google project enroll now. It is an organization that focuses specifically on the Malverne district.

The town is adorable and a really nice community. You get a lot more for your money house wise than in other neighborhoods.

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DH is a teacher (not in Malverne) but when we were looking there, we were opting for the Valley Stream SD 13. If you go on city-data.com (or something like that) you can look up the school's "report card" and decide for yourself - I remember thinking that they didn't have an impressive graduation rate or rate of students going on to 4 year universities. The houses in MD SD12 are reasonable, but I think a lot of people there send their kids to private schools. That is what I found when researching. The VS SD 13 is also very diverse, which we love.

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Posted by Jenhos
Bobby why wouldn't you send your kids there?
The district has changed quite a bit since '87

Posted by Jenhos
People will say it isn't a good district but don't have much to back it up. It is a very diverse population. Maybe thats why people don't think it is good? I think people say it isn't good because that is the reputation it has always had.

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could not and would not send my kids there. i have personal experience with it. i LOVE the town of malverne but there is so much wrong with the district IMO.

and it has NOTHING to do with race/diversity/lakeview. nothing.

but to each his own.

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I grew up (and still live in) Lakeview but West Hempstead schools. A big portion of Lakeview residents go to Malverne schools. I would not send my son there. Sorry.

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But I still haven't heard why you (collective you) wouldn't send your kids there. Several of you said you have personal experience. So what from your experience says it isn't a good district? Were the teachers inadequate? Is the school run by gangs?
DO they have no technology? Do kids just hang out in the halls and not go to class and the administration does nothing about it?

Bobby the blog you posted is more peoples opinions no facts listed there. Not sure what you were getting at with the blue ribbon award. Are you saying it is a BS award? Or not based on anything?

To the poster that asked the question I would do a search. I think 5ofclubs kids are actually NOW in the district and may be able to give you more info.

Momma2be Is the reason why you wouldn't send your kids to Malverne because lakeview kids go there? If so what is wrong with the lakeview kids?

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I am just chiming in here with a general point (not about Malverne school district): I see a lot of posts on here where people ask generally about a school district, saying something like "is it good?" Or "What do you think of x district?"

Whether a school district is "good" is very subjective. As a realtor, I am not supposed to comment on school districts, other than direct people to resources through which they can do their own research. And there's a reason for that:

What is "good" depends on your perspective and what you value. Are you looking at the athletic program? The special ed program? How many AP classes are offered? The teacher/student ratio? The dropout rate? How many students go on to college? If the district offers full-day kindergarten and/or after care? The music and arts program? There are so many things to take into consideration, and every child has unique needs. What I want for my child may not be what you want for yours. Also, it depends on where a person is coming from. Someone moving to LI from out of the area may find a district that some on here consider average or sub-par to be above average, because on the whole, Long Island schools are very good.

So while the purpose of this board is to offer opinions (which may or may not be based in fact), I would say that it may not be the best way to get info on a district. If you ask an open-ended question, you will get a lot of opinions, and not to discount anyone's, but they should be taken with a grain of salt for the reasons stated above. But I think posing a more narrow question about a district (how many elementary schools are there?) or something like that, is obviously less controversial and more likely to yield useful info.

Ok - sorry to get on the But in real estate, I get asked about school districts all the time, and just wanted to point out that it's all subjective!

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oh yeah I forgot about one of the brighter students even though she hung out w/ the wrong crowd. They were upstate.
A shotgun was leaning on a table, fell, and went off killing her.

There was a small racial incident. All i remember about that was that i think one or 2 students got arrested and there were about 6 police cars.

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Jen,

What's your angle?
Have you had personal experiences at Malverne?

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Kids punching teachers can and does happen in any school and I would say that the kids aggression is a home/upbringing issue vs. a school issue.

As for the kid that shot his mom....can you blame that on the school? The school didn't give him the gun.

Sadly kids get picked on in every school and many of them turn to drugs. The school should have done something about the kid getting picked on ABSOLUTELY but the fact that he took drugs I put back on the parents. I can't imagine that the school is giving out PCP.

So I get your point that 20 years ago you witnessed alot of violence there. But does that mean the school is that way now?

I just feel like people take the work of reputation when the reality could be VERY different.

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I have no angle. I went to catholic school my whole life and my kids will as well because it is something I feel strongly about. I have several friends that teach in the Malverne schools (grammar and high school) and have amazing things to say. As do my friends in Malverne that send their kids there.

I also live in the town. Our house is for sale and I hear constantly well you live in district 12 that is the bad district. But when questioned about it the answer always is well thats what I was told. They know nothing about the academics, the sports the programs available etc.

I understand reputation has a lot to do with it but I don't think people take the time to actually do their homework.
And sadly alot of the reputation goes with the fact that we share the school with Lakeview which happens to be a black neighborhood. And that is what they base the decision on.

For the record I didn't grow up in Malverne I grew up in Floral Park.

Message edited 5/19/2011 11:55:05 AM.

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Parents have to take responsibility for not raising bullies, just as they need to raise strong kids who won't buckle under the bullies.

And, schools need to have a hand in this. IDK, when I speak w/ friends who went to other LI schools like RVC, East Meadow, they're kind of shocked by what I tell them. The broken jaw and the shooting in particular.

Where do you send your kids?
If the school so great why does it still have a such a bad reputation?

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I won't post where my kids go to school but it is a Catholic school on LI and we don't use the one in Malverne.

The school has the reputation because the school was not good at one time and people that experienced that then are still telling those stories but don't know if it is still like that. Not an easy thing to overcome.

And unfortunately alot of people can't get over the fact that the school has a majority of black students, and lakeview is considered a "tough" neighborhood. I don't live there or no anybody that has lived there so I can't say that is true or not.

I think it is kind of sad. And it hurts the town alot. I don't usually get into these types of posts but sometimes it is infuriating.

I can respect anyones opinion but at least have something to back it up.

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Didn't see your story about the bright girl till after I posted again. How is that incident the schools fault? It didn't even happen at the school.

A person I knew when I was in high school (not my school) got shot when he and his friends were drunk and messing around with someones dads gun. I never even saw it as a reflection of the school he went to.

As for the racial incidents that is where a lot of this stems from. Malverne was the first integrated school on LI and alot of people werent happy about it and it caused a lot of racial tension with the kids and parents. But what is the answer to that? we got back to white schools and black schools? You don't hear abour racial issues in some of what are considered the "best" school districts because there population is 90% white.

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The formulation of your views and opinions are no different than those who have a negative opinion of the school.

Just like them, you have no personal experience other than what your friends who work in the district have to say.

Just like those from years ago are saying bad things why are not those w/ recent expeeriences saying good things?

Take a walk through Lakeview tomorrow night around 9pm.

I'm sorry, but you claim to be infuriated by those who have a view of Malverne based on no personal experience? Seriously, you have no personal experience w/ the school and won't even send your children there.

Let't pick up on this conversation again when you enroll them in SD12.

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I don't send my kids to the school because I have a strong belief in catholic school. Its a personal choice. My brothers and I all went to catholic school.When we move they will continue in catholic school. And we are looking at districts people would consider VERY good.

I think the teachers that are there everyday are a good insight into what goes on. These are friends they aren't trying to sell me on the school.I have also toured the schools and support project enroll now and I vote in school board elections and school budget elections because my tax dollars pay for it

We aren't debating if lakeview is a good neighborhood or not. And it may have a lot of crime and be scary to walk through at 9:00 on a sat night. Does that mean that the kids who are enrolled in the school can't be good kids who want an education?

I feel like you are still basing if Malverne is a good school or not but the people that go there and not if the educatio n that is being received is good.

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Posted by OneOfEach

Posted by Jenhos

And unfortunately alot of people can't get over the fact that the school has a majority of black students, and lakeview is considered a "tough" neighborhood. I don't live there or no anybody that has lived there so I can't say that is true or not.

I think it is kind of sad. And it hurts the town alot. I don't usually get into these types of posts but sometimes it is infuriating.

I can respect anyones opinion but at least have something to back it up.

With all due respect: I am curious why you put your kids in a Catholic school if you live in Malverne?? I mean doesn't that mean that you would fall into the category of not wanting to send your kids there?? or that you feel there is a better option other than Malverne hs?? You are questioning other people on this post but you haven't answered your own question

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Posted by JAAMS

Posted by OneOfEach

Posted by Jenhos

And unfortunately alot of people can't get over the fact that the school has a majority of black students, and lakeview is considered a "tough" neighborhood. I don't live there or no anybody that has lived there so I can't say that is true or not.

I think it is kind of sad. And it hurts the town alot. I don't usually get into these types of posts but sometimes it is infuriating.

I can respect anyones opinion but at least have something to back it up.

With all due respect: I am curious why you put your kids in a Catholic school if you live in Malverne?? I mean doesn't that mean that you would fall into the category of not wanting to send your kids there?? or that you feel there is a better option other than Malverne hs?? You are questioning other people on this post but you haven't answered your own question

Just wanted to point out: Not everyone sends their kids to Catholic school because they live in a "bad" district. The district that DH & I live in is not "bad." However, our children will go to Catholic school because we believe in a Catholic education. The SD I grew up in wasn't "bad" either, but I went to Catholic school for the same reasons that I'll send my children to one.

It's something I believe strongly in, so like I said, I just wanted to point that out.

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I am just asking why those that said they wouldn't send their kids to give reasons other than I wouldn't.

I am always curious what goes behind those decisions.Don't see what isn't fair about it.

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I don't post too often, but felt the urge to post here. I live in Lynbrook, but in SD12. I have lived in Lynbrook my entire life (SD20), and was sent to Catholic schools growing up. My children, who are not yet school-aged, will also be going to Catholic schools, and they would do so no matter what school district I lived in. My husband is the product of what is considered an exceptional public school district on LI, yet we both agree Catholic education is right for our families.

Now, to chime in here, I think (and I admit I may be wrong) Jenhos' point is (which is my point too) that for those of you who would otherwise send your children to public school but assert that you would not do so in the Malverne school district, there is aboslutely no evidence TODAY to support that the schools are inadequate. If I were to send my children to public school, I would have no problem sending my children to the Malverne schools. I, too, have friends who teach in the district and as a taxpayer, I keep myself informed of all aspects of local politics, including that of my school board as well as the administration of the schools.

The problem I have is with people who hear from other people who hear from other people who hear from other people that the Malverne schools are "bad" and just keep perpetuating that belief when really they have nothing to back that belief up with. I don't think there is a school district on Long Island that couldn't be improved in one way or another.