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Mill188
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Media's role in creating instability?
How does everyone feel about the role of the media in this current political climate? No matter if you are in favor of what is going on right now or against it - the media on both sides is creating alternate facts and I think fearmongering.
For example the media would have us believe that thousands of people were detained at the airports on Saturday night - the total was 109 out of approximately 325,000 - about .03 percent
The Quebec shooting - the media first reported it was a Moroccan terrorist. Now they are reporting it is a white supremacist
Those are just 2 of the most recent examples. Do you think the press has an obligation to report the full story instead of skewing it? Do you think some of the things going on now are being blown out of proportion by the media?
My opinion: the media needs to report the facts of what is going on. There is no room in mainstream media for opinions. That's what op ed pieces are for. I think they rush to get a story out without fully investigating.
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KarenK122
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Media's role in creating instability?
Absolutely.
The media should be presenting unbiased complete facts not assumptions or half stories which sometimes happens. The internet plays an important role in that as one news source reports something and then 100 more just regurgitate the story without doing their own research. There seems to be a rush to be first and not verify the source of the story. I am not talking about any story specifically but just the way the media has been over the last few years.
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| Posted 1/30/17 7:20 PM |
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stinger
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by Mill188
How does everyone feel about the role of the media in this current political climate? No matter if you are in favor of what is going on right now or against it - the media on both sides is creating alternate facts and I think fearmongering.
For example the media would have us believe that thousands of people were detained at the airports on Saturday night - the total was 109 out of approximately 325,000 - about .03 percent
The Quebec shooting - the media first reported it was a Moroccan terrorist. Now they are reporting it is a white supremacist
Those are just 2 of the most recent examples. Do you think the press has an obligation to report the full story instead of skewing it? Do you think some of the things going on now are being blown out of proportion by the media?
My opinion: the media needs to report the facts of what is going on. There is no room in mainstream media for opinions. That's what op ed pieces are for. I think they rush to get a story out without fully investigating.
Where did you get the 109 from? I just make sure to follow credible sources. This is from Robert Reichs FB:
According to Trump and his press secretary Sean Spicer, Trump's ban on entry into the U.S. has affected 109 people. Rubbish. According to the Department of Homeland Security, 348 people have been prevented from board planes heading to the U.S., through 6 p.m. last night.
And the total potentially affected is far larger. According to State Department statistics, around 90,000 immigrants from the 7 countries Trump has targeted received either non-immigrant or immigrant visas in 2015, the most recent data available.
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| Posted 1/30/17 7:29 PM |
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MrsT809
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by stinger
Posted by Mill188
How does everyone feel about the role of the media in this current political climate? No matter if you are in favor of what is going on right now or against it - the media on both sides is creating alternate facts and I think fearmongering.
For example the media would have us believe that thousands of people were detained at the airports on Saturday night - the total was 109 out of approximately 325,000 - about .03 percent
The Quebec shooting - the media first reported it was a Moroccan terrorist. Now they are reporting it is a white supremacist
Those are just 2 of the most recent examples. Do you think the press has an obligation to report the full story instead of skewing it? Do you think some of the things going on now are being blown out of proportion by the media?
My opinion: the media needs to report the facts of what is going on. There is no room in mainstream media for opinions. That's what op ed pieces are for. I think they rush to get a story out without fully investigating.
Where did you get the 109 from? I just make sure to follow credible sources. This is from Robert Reichs FB:
According to Trump and his press secretary Sean Spicer, Trump's ban on entry into the U.S. has affected 109 people. Rubbish. According to the Department of Homeland Security, 348 people have been prevented from board planes heading to the U.S., through 6 p.m. last night.
And the total potentially affected is far larger. According to State Department statistics, around 90,000 immigrants from the 7 countries Trump has targeted received either non-immigrant or immigrant visas in 2015, the most recent data available.
Sean spicer used these numbers in his press conference today (109 detainees held at airports out of 325,000). He refused to acknowledge any of the people who were kept from boarding flights in other counties despite the paperwork they had in place.
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| Posted 1/30/17 7:34 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Multiple sources: CNN MSNBC the dreaded
Fox and the AP.
Of course those numbers do not take into account those that were denied boarding. As stated above it is the number of people detained Saturday night.
This post isn't about the numbers. It is about the hype the media creates (on both sides). Sometimes watching he news is like watching people play a game of telephone!
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| Posted 1/30/17 7:43 PM |
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by KarenK122
Absolutely.
The media should be presenting unbiased complete facts not assumptions or half stories which sometimes happens. The internet plays an important role in that as one news source reports something and then 100 more just regurgitate the story without doing their own research. There seems to be a rush to be first and not verify the source of the story. I am not talking about any story specifically but just the way the media has been over the last few years.
I agree with this 110%
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Here's my take.
The media is only as credible as the person who is believing it.
There are absolutely right wing and left wing media. And they spew whatever is in their best interest. They aren't reliable or credible to anyone other than their intended reader or viewer.
Mainstream media is also very skewed, some more so than others. Print, TV and social media has allowed us to form opinions before we're ever presented with the facts.
I think a lot of people only see and hear what they want. They are only going to seek out those particular news sources that support their ideology. They always "say" they are looking for facts and truths but not really. They just want to reinforce their own beliefs. It is comforting to know there are others who think like you. Whether or not those beliefs are nonsensical, unethical or immoral is beside the point.
There are people right here on LIF who - if God himself came down from the heavens and bestowed the absolute almighty truth - would still not believe it. Mark Twain said it's easier to be fooled than to admit you were fooled (or something like that!).
I think people only hear and see what they want. I think they try to blame the media instead of doing their own research and making educated decisions and opinions. It's easy to blame the media than say, I was too lazy to research or think for myself.
I think the media gets a really bum wrap. Good media, that is. And there is plenty of credible, as-unbiased-as-possible media out there, people just choose to believe what they want from where they want.
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| Posted 1/30/17 8:05 PM |
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Pumpkin1
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by KarenK122
Absolutely.
The media should be presenting unbiased complete facts not assumptions or half stories which sometimes happens. The internet plays an important role in that as one news source reports something and then 100 more just regurgitate the story without doing their own research. There seems to be a rush to be first and not verify the source of the story. I am not talking about any story specifically but just the way the media has been over the last few years.
I agree with this 110%
I agree as well. I always think about the balloon boy, you know the kid that the parents claimed was inside an air balloon. CNN followed the story all day long and, in the end, the parents were reality TV people who lied to get publicity.
Unfortunately, our "instant gratification" society demands to know things now and then revolts when that unverified news is refuted. It has greatly affected the media's credibility and Trump is capitalizing on that.
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| Posted 1/30/17 8:07 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by mrsrainbow
Here's my take.
The media is only as credible as the person who is believing it.
There are absolutely right wing and left wing media. And they spew whatever is in their best interest. They aren't reliable or credible to anyone other than their intended reader or viewer.
Mainstream media is also very skewed, some more so than others. Print, TV and social media has allowed us to form opinions before we're ever presented with the facts.
I think a lot of people only see and hear what they want. They are only going to seek out those particular news sources that support their ideology. They always "say" they are looking for facts and truths but not really. They just want to reinforce their own beliefs. It is comforting to know there are others who think like you. Whether or not those beliefs are nonsensical, unethical or immoral is beside the point.
There are people right here on LIF who - if God himself came down from the heavens and bestowed the absolute almighty truth - would still not believe it. Mark Twain said it's easier to be fooled than to admit you were fooled (or something like that!).
I think people only hear and see what they want. I think they try to blame the media instead of doing their own research and making educated decisions and opinions. It's easy to blame the media than say, I was too lazy to research or think for myself.
I think the media gets a really bum wrap. Good media, that is. And there is plenty of credible, as-unbiased-as-possible media out there, people just choose to believe what they want from where they want.
Hmmm. Interesting. So what you're saying is that people find news sources that match their opinions and then look for additional evidence that supports that. In other words they already have a preconceived notion of what they want to hear? So if I believe the sky is green I will find a source that says it's green ignoring all sources that say it's blue?
I never looked at it that way.
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Posted by Mill188
Posted by mrsrainbow
Here's my take.
The media is only as credible as the person who is believing it.
There are absolutely right wing and left wing media. And they spew whatever is in their best interest. They aren't reliable or credible to anyone other than their intended reader or viewer.
Mainstream media is also very skewed, some more so than others. Print, TV and social media has allowed us to form opinions before we're ever presented with the facts.
I think a lot of people only see and hear what they want. They are only going to seek out those particular news sources that support their ideology. They always "say" they are looking for facts and truths but not really. They just want to reinforce their own beliefs. It is comforting to know there are others who think like you. Whether or not those beliefs are nonsensical, unethical or immoral is beside the point.
There are people right here on LIF who - if God himself came down from the heavens and bestowed the absolute almighty truth - would still not believe it. Mark Twain said it's easier to be fooled than to admit you were fooled (or something like that!).
I think people only hear and see what they want. I think they try to blame the media instead of doing their own research and making educated decisions and opinions. It's easy to blame the media than say, I was too lazy to research or think for myself.
I think the media gets a really bum wrap. Good media, that is. And there is plenty of credible, as-unbiased-as-possible media out there, people just choose to believe what they want from where they want.
Hmmm. Interesting. So what you're saying is that people find news sources that match their opinions and then look for additional evidence that supports that. In other words they already have a preconceived notion of what they want to hear? So if I believe the sky is green I will find a source that says it's green ignoring all sources that say it's blue?
I never looked at it that way.
Yes. It's called confirmation bias. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum, left & right.
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klingklang77
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
I think if you have good critical thinking skills, you can weed through the garbage and bias.
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| Posted 1/31/17 1:10 AM |
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stinger
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
I am skeptical of the media but i am not paranoid of MSM at this time.
Republicans apparently are though
Trump or news?
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| Posted 1/31/17 7:46 AM |
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JennZ
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
denzel washington said it best. no one wants to be right, they want to be first. no matter the repercussion. thats the problem. we are a get it now nation and no one checks anything before sharing it.
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| Posted 1/31/17 7:55 AM |
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LittleDiva
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Media's role in creating instability?
i dont want to start another post, but i could not believe what i saw on tv this morning.
i try to watch all stations to get different views. i had fox news on and the caption on the screen was something along the lines of 'trump uniting republicans' then i switched over to cnn and the caption was 'trump dividing republicans'
the MEDIA is dividing everyone. its either one extreme or another. there is no middle of the road i feel like. it is either you are one side or the other, and if you are on the opposite side you are stupid, dumb, freeloader, racist, etc....
i am just so over it. i want responsible and credible reporting back. investigative reporting. all these media outlets are a joke at this point.
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| Posted 1/31/17 9:12 AM |
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ohbaby08
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Media's role in creating instability?
This is nothing new with the media. I remember when Sandy Hook happened, a lot of the cable news channels were saying that Adam Lanza's brother was the shooter. They all wanted to be first to name the suspect, so they just put whatever info they think is correct out there.
The rise of cable news channels was the demise of legit TV news. It's all about ratings and making more money. Real journalists are few and far between nowadays.
My issue with Fox news is that they appear, to me, to be the most bias. At least CNN and MSNBC put people from both sides of a subject on a discussion panel. You always see Van Jones paired up with Jeffrey Lord, or Axelrod with Kayleigh McEnany. It balances out. Fox just has guest after guest who support their bias. It's like another world over there.
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| Posted 1/31/17 9:36 AM |
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Hofstra26
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I think an even bigger issue than mainstream media is the thousands of "news" sites all over the internet which are filled with incorrect information and flat out lies. SO many people link to these sites and then perpetuate the misinformation by spreading and sharing all over FB and Twitter as if it's gospel.
Because so few people take the time to fact check anything, they choose to believe everything they read on the internet as coming from a credible source and then they re-post and share it. Before you know it, wrong information has spread like wildfire and the ignorance continues. FB has become the land of the stupid. It's scary.
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
ITA!! Use your brain. Think. Read. Do your own research across multiple sources. You have no one to blame but yourself for being ignorant.
Message edited 1/31/2017 10:01:50 AM.
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| Posted 1/31/17 9:59 AM |
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Mill188
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
reminds me of the commercial for State Farm with the girl who has a date with the "French model" from the internet 
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| Posted 1/31/17 10:04 AM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
ITA!! Use your brain. Think. Read. Do your own research across multiple sources. You have no one to blame but yourself for being ignorant.
Surprisingly Keith Olbermann is KILLING IT with taking the media to task. He is a great source to break down both sides and show we as the audience keep the media accountable.
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| Posted 1/31/17 10:16 AM |
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Chai77
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
OP- don't get your information from Sean Spicer.
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| Posted 1/31/17 10:24 AM |
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PitterPatter11
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Media's role in creating instability?
I think the media is definitely adding to the instability. I am an intelligent person and I have a hard time weeding through it and determining what is fact and what is fiction. I try to check media sources that represents both viewpoints so I can make an informed decision, but I feel like it is impossible. One source will say something and then another source will say the complete opposite. My DH feels the same way.
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| Posted 1/31/17 10:41 AM |
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sunnygirl
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Yes I am an educated thinking adult but I shouldn't have to spend so much time fact checking and going to multiple news sources to find out the correct info. Media was not always as biased as it is now. As someone else said it's all about ratings and money. We absolutely need more mainstream non biased news sources. The average Working American with possibly multiple jobs and kids to take care of doesn't have the time to check multiple sources and they shouldn't have to, and they clearly don't
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| Posted 1/31/17 10:51 AM |
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by sunnygirl
Yes I am an educated thinking adult but I shouldn't have to spend so much time fact checking and going to multiple news sources to find out the correct info. Media was not always as biased as it is now. As someone else said it's all about ratings and money. We absolutely need more mainstream non biased news sources. The average Working American with possibly multiple jobs and kids to take care of doesn't have the time to check multiple sources and they shouldn't have to, and they clearly don't
I completely agree. I was just telling someone that I feel as if I have to spend hours a day researching just to try to excavate some glimmer of truth from the media.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by Chai77
OP- don't get your information from Sean Spicer.
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