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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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OP- don't get your information from Sean Spicer.
Thanks for the advice, but rest assured, I don't.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
The media is out of control. The press should be held to professional and ethical standards of responsible reporting.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Yes I am an educated thinking adult but I shouldn't have to spend so much time fact checking and going to multiple news sources to find out the correct info. Media was not always as biased as it is now. As someone else said it's all about ratings and money. We absolutely need more mainstream non biased news sources. The average Working American with possibly multiple jobs and kids to take care of doesn't have the time to check multiple sources and they shouldn't have to, and they clearly don't
I completely agree. I was just telling someone that I feel as if I have to spend hours a day researching just to try to excavate some glimmer of truth from the media.
I was also about to type something similar. Who has time to do extensive research on every little thing you hear? I pop onto the news apps on my phone quickly during the day when I have two minutes of downtime at work. It's a shame that we can't even rely on "reputable" news sources anymore. If they aren't providing accurate info, they're pretty pointless IMO.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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The media is out of control. The press should be held to professional and ethical standards of responsible reporting.
Yep.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
I beg to differ. I am a highly educated individual, and I have quite honestly been spending at least 10-15 hours a week researching the news. Not quite 40, but there is no reason I should have to dig so deep into a multitude of sources, primary documents, etc. to make even an inkling of sense out of what the media is reporting (which is completely sensationalist the majority of the time).
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by sunnygirl
Yes I am an educated thinking adult but I shouldn't have to spend so much time fact checking and going to multiple news sources to find out the correct info. Media was not always as biased as it is now. As someone else said it's all about ratings and money. We absolutely need more mainstream non biased news sources. The average Working American with possibly multiple jobs and kids to take care of doesn't have the time to check multiple sources and they shouldn't have to, and they clearly don't
I completely agree. I was just telling someone that I feel as if I have to spend hours a day researching just to try to excavate some glimmer of truth from the media.
I was also about to type something similar. Who has time to do extensive research on every little thing you hear? I pop onto the news apps on my phone quickly during the day when I have two minutes of downtime at work. It's a shame that we can't even rely on "reputable" news sources anymore. If they aren't providing accurate info, they're pretty pointless IMO.
Ive said this in other posts find good investigative journalists to follow.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by sunnygirl
Yes I am an educated thinking adult but I shouldn't have to spend so much time fact checking and going to multiple news sources to find out the correct info. Media was not always as biased as it is now. As someone else said it's all about ratings and money. We absolutely need more mainstream non biased news sources. The average Working American with possibly multiple jobs and kids to take care of doesn't have the time to check multiple sources and they shouldn't have to, and they clearly don't
I completely agree. I was just telling someone that I feel as if I have to spend hours a day researching just to try to excavate some glimmer of truth from the media.
I was also about to type something similar. Who has time to do extensive research on every little thing you hear? I pop onto the news apps on my phone quickly during the day when I have two minutes of downtime at work. It's a shame that we can't even rely on "reputable" news sources anymore. If they aren't providing accurate info, they're pretty pointless IMO.
Ive said this in other posts find good investigative journalists to follow.
Do you have any suggestions of journalists who are able to present factual information regardless of their own personal political beliefs?
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Chai77
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by Mill188
Posted by Chai77
OP- don't get your information from Sean Spicer.
Thanks for the advice, but rest assured, I don't.
Oh, I'm sorry. "Reince Priebus".
Regardless of the number of people actually detained because they were caught literally midair in the flight, do you know how many refugees, travelers, student visa holders, possibly green card and other residents this will effect? A hell of a lot more than 109.
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Mill188
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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OP- don't get your information from Sean Spicer.
Thanks for the advice, but rest assured, I don't.
Oh, I'm sorry. "Reince Priebus".
Regardless of the number of people actually detained because they were caught literally midair in the flight, do you know how many refugees, travelers, student visa holders, possibly green card and other residents this will effect? A hell of a lot more than 109.
Stop reading between the lines. I'm not arguing that more than 109 people are impacted by the ban. I don't believe I ever argued that point.
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lululu
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
I beg to differ. I am a highly educated individual, and I have quite honestly been spending at least 10-15 hours a week researching the news. Not quite 40, but there is no reason I should have to dig so deep into a multitude of sources, primary documents, etc. to make even an inkling of sense out of what the media is reporting (which is completely sensationalist the majority of the time).
I agree with evrything4areason. You are living in a nice long island bubble if you don't think that about 95% of America is relying on mainstream news to be accurate. And the fact of the matter is that even mainstream news has become so much about the almighty $ that they don't care to report the news without sensationalizing it. Many people do not have time or the wherewithal to read multiple news sources and dig deep to get the facts, and frankly you shouldn't have to. The news is more propaganda siding one way or the other and it shouldn't be that way. That should scare everyone here because the majority of people rely on and believe the media for everything.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by evrythng4areason
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
I beg to differ. I am a highly educated individual, and I have quite honestly been spending at least 10-15 hours a week researching the news. Not quite 40, but there is no reason I should have to dig so deep into a multitude of sources, primary documents, etc. to make even an inkling of sense out of what the media is reporting (which is completely sensationalist the majority of the time).
It's clear from the other thread you don't believe the media. You get presented with an article and you still say, *shrug* not a big deal. So don't ask people to do your research for you if you don't like what they give you. I can't tell you what to look for or what to believe. Everyone can only make that decision for themselves. I just think blaming the media and then saying poor me I can't decide what's truth or not is a cop out. If you're going into it cynically or jaded you will never find what you want.
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The media isn't to blame. Every time I hear similiar, it sounds like people (not necessarily anyone here) who simply can't believe the shit that is going on from the guy they voted into office.
No one really said anything or complained much before about media being unreliable or how "hard" it is to get facts prior to this admin.
It just sounds like an excuse and to point the finger away from trump and these idiots.
And again I don't mean anyone here in particular - but if no one can see that the current admin and even prior to taking office - they harped on media out to get them, can't be trusted, etc - there's a reason. It was to try to have people view them as poor little victims. They aren't.
So in essence it sounds like a giant excuse to me - from trump supporters and him and his staff.
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Media's role in creating instability?
Not the first time the media is used as a scapegoat and I'm sure it won't be the last.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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The media isn't to blame. Every time I hear similiar, it sounds like people (not necessarily anyone here) who simply can't believe the shit that is going on from the guy they voted into office.
No one really said anything or complained much before about media being unreliable or how "hard" it is to get facts prior to this admin.
It just sounds like an excuse and to point the finger away from trump and these idiots.
And again I don't mean anyone here in particular - but if no one can see that the current admin and even prior to taking office - they harped on media out to get them, can't be trusted, etc - there's a reason. It was to try to have people view them as poor little victims. They aren't.
So in essence it sounds like a giant excuse to me - from trump supporters and him and his staff.
For me this is entirely untrue. I have been saying for a long time, probably the past two or three years, that the media is out of control. Previously I limited it more to Fox being off their rocker and the major networks being slightly left leaning adding drama to make the headlines a little more sensational. But now it's just crazy.
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Not the first time the media is used as a scapegoat and I'm sure it won't be the last.
So are you saying that the media is reporting the facts in an unbiased manner in which the American people can generally rely on? You can't really believe that that's the case when so many people here say they have to go to numerous news sources to get to the facts.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by mrsrainbow
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
I beg to differ. I am a highly educated individual, and I have quite honestly been spending at least 10-15 hours a week researching the news. Not quite 40, but there is no reason I should have to dig so deep into a multitude of sources, primary documents, etc. to make even an inkling of sense out of what the media is reporting (which is completely sensationalist the majority of the time).
It's clear from the other thread you don't believe the media. You get presented with an article and you still say, *shrug* not a big deal. So don't ask people to do your research for you if you don't like what they give you. I can't tell you what to look for or what to believe. Everyone can only make that decision for themselves. I just think blaming the media and then saying poor me I can't decide what's truth or not is a cop out. If you're going into it cynically or jaded you will never find what you want.
This is entirely untrue. I'm not asking other people to do my research for me-every article posted I had already read. I was asking if I had missed something.
However, the downright aggression of people on this board is mind boggling. I'm not keeping my head in the sand-I'm obviously trying to educate myself as much as I can (and considering that I work full time and have a 2.5 year old and a 3 month old it's not exactly easy to find the time to do this). Why do you feel the need to be so degrading?
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I think some of this is common sense stuff we learned in school. I just finished doing a research paper with my high school students, and a big part of the unit is learning a process for determining quality sources of information. This is not new.
IMO, all TV news is sensationalized. It's f-ing TV; this should be obvious.
I think that the news reported in our top newspapers is still quality information. I read The New York Times, which is center-left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is center-right. These are highly respected institutions with well-staffed fact-checking departments and reputations to uphold, and that is honestly enough to get a pretty well-rounded version of the truth.
When I can, I watch the unadulterated footage of press conferences and hearings, and I go into an op-ed or a piece of satire knowing what it is and reading with an eye that acknowledges it is not attempting to be unbiased. I can't tell you how many times I read comments on The Borowitz Report with a bunch of f-ing simps crying "Lies!" Or when I share an article with a conservative from the WSJ, and they dismiss it as the "liberal-biased media" and counter with some bullsh*t from infowars.net
Part of the problem is that everyone is so sure of their own opinion (yes to confirmation bias!) and they're too busy squawking to shut up and listen, maybe learn something, maybe hear the other perspective and arrive in a more moderate place of common ground.
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Not the first time the media is used as a scapegoat and I'm sure it won't be the last.
So are you saying that the media is reporting the facts in an unbiased manner in which the American people can generally rely on? You can't really believe that that's the case when so many people here say they have to go to numerous news sources to get to the facts.
I meant what I said, nothing more, nothing less. Read into it however you'd like.
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lululu
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Not the first time the media is used as a scapegoat and I'm sure it won't be the last.
So are you saying that the media is reporting the facts in an unbiased manner in which the American people can generally rely on? You can't really believe that that's the case when so many people here say they have to go to numerous news sources to get to the facts.
I meant what I said, nothing more, nothing less. Read into it however you'd like.
I was actually asking a question. I don't like to read into things.
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lululu
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
Posted by bookworm
Part of the problem is that everyone is so sure of their own opinion (yes to confirmation bias!) and they're too busy squawking to shut up and listen, maybe learn something, maybe hear the other perspective and arrive in a more moderate place of common ground.
Exactly!
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Like I said before and I keep seeing it on numerous threads - no one is taking responsibility for what they believe in and where they get their sources. Stop blaming the media. You're an adult and you can decide for yourself where to get your information from. There is plenty of "unbiased as possible" sources out there. Stop watching Fox and CNN if you don't like what they're reporting. But constantly blaming the media for not giving you what you want is a cop out.
You overestimate the American people.
Perhaps the *majority* of American people, but here on LI, maybe get off FB and Snapchat and spend more time researching? It's not nearly as onerous as people make it out to be. I personally believe it's an easy excuse to continue to blame the media for your own lack of knowledge. I am not saying you're not intelligent, but you can parse out information and not spend 40 hours a week doing so.
I beg to differ. I am a highly educated individual, and I have quite honestly been spending at least 10-15 hours a week researching the news. Not quite 40, but there is no reason I should have to dig so deep into a multitude of sources, primary documents, etc. to make even an inkling of sense out of what the media is reporting (which is completely sensationalist the majority of the time).
It's clear from the other thread you don't believe the media. You get presented with an article and you still say, *shrug* not a big deal. So don't ask people to do your research for you if you don't like what they give you. I can't tell you what to look for or what to believe. Everyone can only make that decision for themselves. I just think blaming the media and then saying poor me I can't decide what's truth or not is a cop out. If you're going into it cynically or jaded you will never find what you want.
This is entirely untrue. I'm not asking other people to do my research for me-every article posted I had already read. I was asking if I had missed something.
However, the downright aggression of people on this board is mind boggling. I'm not keeping my head in the sand-I'm obviously trying to educate myself as much as I can (and considering that I work full time and have a 2.5 year old and a 3 month old it's not exactly easy to find the time to do this). Why do you feel the need to be so degrading?
I think it's really good to try to seek out answers that are different than your original take on it. I'm being 100% serious. I commend you for it.
I think the blame is spread all around here. Sure, there is sensationalist media. But the press is an important tool in a democracy, too. My best suggestion for people trying to overcome media bias is read from a number of sources, watch different networks, and perhaps most important of all - check media from other countries. Canadian and British sources I generally find to be really helpful, and less biased than the media here. I also find Israeli papers helpful (and can balance out any perceived bias in the Canadian papers ;).
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Mill188
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Posted by bookworm
Part of the problem is that everyone is so sure of their own opinion (yes to confirmation bias!) and they're too busy squawking to shut up and listen, maybe learn something, maybe hear the other perspective and arrive in a more moderate place of common ground.
Exactly!
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Re: Media's role in creating instability?
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Not the first time the media is used as a scapegoat and I'm sure it won't be the last.
So are you saying that the media is reporting the facts in an unbiased manner in which the American people can generally rely on? You can't really believe that that's the case when so many people here say they have to go to numerous news sources to get to the facts.
I meant what I said, nothing more, nothing less. Read into it however you'd like.
I was actually asking a question. I don't like to read into things.
Of course the media can be biased and that's nothing new but people are to blame for not doing their due diligence. Just like blaming the media for violence. It's a scapegoat for the real issues.
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