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05mommy09
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Mental illness: Depression
Does it every "go away"? Im aware that some are on medication for life- but does the lows ever go away- and if so how/when?
Ive shared before, but to give a little background... Depression runs on my moms side big time- and my mom was diagnosed about a year ago (however shes been really bad for the past 5 years- but didnt get herself up up until my dad was deployed a year ago)
They say depression is something she always had- but assume that my father infedilty which was discovered in 2001 is what triggered it...
Every year its gotten worse and worse- but this year has been the most hard! There has been 1 suicide attempt- in which she was hospitalized over night- apparently after she took a whole bunch of sleeping pills- she then realized what she had done- and got herself help- So they took that as a good sign- and only kept her 1 day (I think they wanted to keep her more-but she refused)
She is seen weekly by a counselor and (I wanna say biweekly-but it could by monthly) by a psychiatrist- I know they've tried several anti-depressants- and she just recently switched psych. since she didnt feel the first really did anything for her (I agree)
IMO- I think a big part of the problem, is she still hasnt let go of the past (my dad's affairs) and I just dont see her getting better- no matter how much meds she takes- if she continually stays in a marriage, in which there is no trust, and she is so unhappy.
This is extremly hard on my- because her and I are very close- but she is so moody- and when she is not having a good day is so terribly hurtful towards me!
Yesterday was DS b-day party, and she just wasnt behaved- she had a few beers (and for a woman who weighs 90lbs soaking wet, never drinks, is on meds) which did a number on her- plus it wasnt one of her "good" days...
I called to her to come watch us open presents, and she came over- got right in my face while I had DS on my lap- and was yelling about something (She wasnt even making sense)- I was mortified!
Then- when being introduced to one of my very attractive friends(who is happily married with an infant mind you) she says "wow- you are very beautiful- stay away from my husband- he likes young woman" and then walked away with "I gotta go have another beer"
I cant begin to explain how HARD it is to not be so angry- and if I didnt love her so much- we would have no relationship anymore...
If she is getting help (and has been for over a year now) and taking her meds- is this ever gonna get better-
I just dont see a light at the end this tunnel
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Posted 10/1/06 4:34 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
No advice but
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Posted 10/1/06 4:42 PM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Depression is a treatable illness but has to be monitored carefully. However, it sounds to me as if depression is not the only thing she is dealing with right now. I had been treated for what had been called "acute onset depression" with both therapy and medication. This was a number of years ago. I since stopped therapy and was weaned off from medication. I was told that if a person goes off without being weaned, the symptoms come back and sometimes even worse than before. As far as how I feel now, I have good days and bad days but not anymore or any less than anyone else in the world.
Is it possible that she is not taking her medication consistently or that she is not seeing her doctors the way she should be?
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Posted 10/1/06 4:43 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
depression is a very treatable illness and with medication and therapy she should reach a point where she is good. If she is not depressed most of the day every day than the clinical depression (the chemical/biologcal part that responds to meds) is probably under control. The emotional and behavioral aspect of dealing with her realizzation of the infidelity cant be medicated away and a good therapist is more important here. And alcohol.... well that just completely disinhibits you and what she did while drunk has not much to do with her illness.
But the havoc any mental illness reaks on the family is horrible. I would suggest going to a support group such as NAMI. I'll try and find a link for you.
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by Goldi0218
Depression is a treatable illness but has to be monitored carefully. However, it sounds to me as if depression is not the only thing she is dealing with right now. I had been treated for what had been called "acute onset depression" with both therapy and medication. This was a number of years ago. I since stopped therapy and was weaned off from medication. I was told that if a person goes off without being weaned, the symptoms come back and sometimes even worse than before. As far as how I feel now, I have good days and bad days but not anymore or any less than anyone else in the world.
Is it possible that she is not taking her medication consistently or that she is not seeing her doctors the way she should be?
Well- there is always the possibilty that she dosent take her meds...
BUT- I do believe she is- I just dont see her wasting the time going to visits and filling the prescriptions- just so she could skip out on the meds...
She says she takes her meds... and has told me when she felt like certain ones werent working...
My great aunt and her are very close and age- and we are all very close- My Aunt thinks she isnt totally honest w/ the Dr- therefore isnt getting prescribed the right meds...- Could that be possible? Could they be misdiagnosing her?
She has good days but mostly bad ones...
And she is insomnic- which just makes everything so much worse!
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Posted 10/1/06 4:47 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by rose825
depression is a very treatable illness and with medication and therapy she should reach a point where she is good. If she is not depressed most of the day every day than the clinical depression (the chemical/biologcal part that responds to meds) is probably under control. The emotional and behavioral aspect of dealing with her realizzation of the infidelity cant be medicated away and a good therapist is more important here. And alcohol.... well that just completely disinhibits you and what she did while drunk has not much to do with her illness.
But the havoc any mental illness reaks on the family is horrible. I would suggest going to a support group such as NAMI. I'll try and find a link for you.
Well- these comments she made- had nothing to do with being drunk-She says and does stuff like this all the time- Yesterday drinking just made it even worse!
I wanna say she is pretty bad- ALL the time!
How long after being on meds does it take to cure and control?
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Posted 10/1/06 4:49 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
What about the fact that she remains so miserable in her marriage?
Could that be stopping her healing process?
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Posted 10/1/06 4:50 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
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How long after being on meds does it take to cure and control?
It really depends on the person. I was on for a little over two years. But I was not always depressed.
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Posted 10/1/06 4:53 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
First off, I need to give you hugs
My father lost his job of 25 years when I was 15. I guess he always had this macho thing in which he NEEDED to be the breadwiner for the family. He became extremely depressed, cried over nothing, never slept, and was a completely different person. My family, not knowing anything, became increasingly angry with him and couldn't understand why he didnt just "get his act together". After a suicide attempt, we took him to the ER. He stayed for a couple of days and then went home and started seeing a phychairatrist. It got a little better but not really.
Turns out, my dad wasn't clicking with the doctor and the meds prescribed were not enough. He had another suicide attempt. He changed hospitals and doctors.
He now sees a phsycologist every other week and a new phychatrist every other month. Hes on different doses of varying meds.
My dad was diagnoses as being bipolar and having a severe case of depression. Losing his job triggered the bipolar which other people can have and never know about it.
He takes it one day at a time. There are days he wakes up great and takes very minimal drugs. There are days where he wakes up and feels the "dark cloud" and knows he needs his full set of meds that day.
His disease is something that even though he wanted to get out of, he couldn't. To hear how he felt trapped in himself when he tells us stories, makes me cry now.
At the time, I was "Angry" at him. Angry that he wasn;t the same dad i knew, angry that he was ruining my life, and angry that I had to be his parent. Its only natural.
He is now the same old dad i've always known!!!
Please consider checking up on her doctors and meds. There is a rainbow aroud the corner.
Please fm fme any time
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Posted 10/1/06 4:55 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
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Posted by Princessmaris
How long after being on meds does it take to cure and control?
It really depends on the person. I was on for a little over two years. But I was not always depressed.
Well this has been 1 year... and things have only gotten worse-
Why do you think this could be? What would be some of the reasons?
Could I contact her counsleor, or psych and tell them whats going on- so that way if she isnt being honest with them- they might get a better insight??
Her counselor has contacted me a few times in re: to my mom- but it was only if my mom was doing real bad- and she couldnt get in touch with her or something... and the Dr wanted to make sure she was ok....
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Posted 10/1/06 4:56 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
first here is the link for NAMI
now if her behavior while she was drunk is typical of sober behavior, then that really isnt a symptoms of depression.
Does she have periods of elevated or euphoric mood? times when she doesnt need to sleep or feels well rested on little sleep (not that she can't sleep- but doesnt need to)? does she have periods of increased energy? irritability? increase in activities like excessively shopping or cleaning? impulsivity (we know she has an impulsive mouth )
If she has some of these how long do they last? These are all symptoms of some form of Bipolar disorder, which kind depends on more details). You can read about cyclothymia, Bipolar I, Bipolar II.
If she has these symptoms, and is being treated for depression only then yes she could be being mistreated. If her "manic" symptoms are less severe such as in Bipolar II or cyclothymia it can easily be misdiagnosed if she is not 100% honest with the MD. And it may not be because she is being deceiptful. She may not realize its relevant or she may like when she feels that way (its a lot better than being depressed).
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Posted 10/1/06 4:57 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
oh yeah and how long before the meds work depends on each person and the type of medicine. some may work for one person and not for another. BUt if it is working usually you see an effect in 4-6 weeks.
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Posted 10/1/06 4:58 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by Jessica
First off, I need to give you hugs
My father lost his job of 25 years when I was 15. I guess he always had this macho thing in which he NEEDED to be the breadwiner for the family. He became extremely depressed, cried over nothing, never slept, and was a completely different person. My family, not knowing anything, became increasingly angry with him and couldn't understand why he didnt just "get his act together". After a suicide attempt, we took him to the ER. He stayed for a couple of days and then went home and started seeing a phychairatrist. It got a little better but not really.
Turns out, my dad wasn't clicking with the doctor and the meds prescribed were not enough. He had another suicide attempt. He changed hospitals and doctors.
He now sees a phsycologist every other week and a new phychatrist every other month. Hes on different doses of varying meds.
My dad was diagnoses as being bipolar and having a severe case of depression. Losing his job triggered the bipolar which other people can have and never know about it.
He takes it one day at a time. There are days he wakes up great and takes very minimal drugs. There are days where he wakes up and feels the "dark cloud" and knows he needs his full set of meds that day.
His disease is something that even though he wanted to get out of, he couldn't. To hear how he felt trapped in himself when he tells us stories, makes me cry now.
At the time, I was "Angry" at him. Angry that he wasn;t the same dad i knew, angry that he was ruining my life, and angry that I had to be his parent. Its only natural.
He is now the same old dad i've always known!!!
Please consider checking up on her doctors and meds. There is a rainbow aroud the corner.
Please fm fme any time
Thank you for sharing that-
Im not sure what her diagnoses is- She has only mentioned "depression" to me... could be more- who knows...
She has just recently switched Dr.'s and says she feels better with this one- But I see no difference-
I know it takes time- but everyday she seems more and more nasty!
How do I check up on things? Meaning -finding out about her dr.'s and meds- if they are the "right" ones...
Im her contact- not my father- so I am on all her paperwork- but I know they cant share anything with me...
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Is your mother seeing a therapist?
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Posted 10/1/06 5:00 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
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How long after being on meds does it take to cure and control?
It really depends on the person. I was on for a little over two years. But I was not always depressed.
Well this has been 1 year... and things have only gotten worse-
Why do you think this could be? What would be some of the reasons?
Could I contact her counsleor, or psych and tell them whats going on- so that way if she isnt being honest with them- they might get a better insight??
Her counselor has contacted me a few times in re: to my mom- but it was only if my mom was doing real bad- and she couldnt get in touch with her or something... and the Dr wanted to make sure she was ok....
Can you ask your mom if you can go with her to her next psychiatrist appointment?
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by rose825
Does she have periods of elevated or euphoric mood? times when she doesnt need to sleep or feels well rested on little sleep (not that she can't sleep- but doesnt need to)? does she have periods of increased energy? irritability? increase in activities like excessively shopping or cleaning? impulsivity (we know she has an impulsive mouth )
-N0 -No- she is always tired- and cant sleep -No energy- dosent even like to get dressed- and sleeps often during the day - Once in a blue moon she'll get up energy and go on a shopping spree- but most of the time- its a "spree" cause she hasnt gone in weeks and needs alot of stuff- but sometimes will go out and spend $$$ on whatever -Cleaning- well she is a neat freak (thats where I get it from) and her house is always immaculate- and no matter how tired she is- she has time to clean! -Impulsive- not really
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Posted 10/1/06 5:04 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Depression also IMO is never CURED
You learn to deal with it
but not CURED
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Posted 10/1/06 5:05 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
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Is your mother seeing a therapist?
yes
a counselor and psychiatrist
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Posted 10/1/06 5:05 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by Redhead
Depression also IMO is never CURED
You learn to deal with it
but not CURED
Well when I say "cured" I mean functional- even if that means on meds forever
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
I have a family member with depression, and sometimes it takes trying out a bunch of meds before you find the right one. I know I was on like eight BC pills before I found one that was right for me...It's the same with these meds, but on top of finding the right kind, you need the right dosage, which is just trial and error. They won't tell you anything and they won't admit her without her admitting herself unless she is a danger to herself or others.
I think alcohol for many people with depression is a means of self-medication. Don't take the things she says to heart--this is not your mother talking, it is the illess. However, my relative stopped taking meds and got considerably worse because he said they made him feel like he was "in a cloud" and couldn't think clearly. I don't know if I would leave her alone with the baby.
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Posted 10/1/06 5:06 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by Princessmaris
Posted by Redhead
Depression also IMO is never CURED
You learn to deal with it
but not CURED
Well when I say "cured" I mean functional- even if that means on meds forever
I think a big part of the problem is that when people feel cured, they stop taking the meds, and the cycle continues.
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Posted 10/1/06 5:06 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by rose825
Posted by Princessmaris
Posted by Goldi0218
Posted by Princessmaris
How long after being on meds does it take to cure and control?
It really depends on the person. I was on for a little over two years. But I was not always depressed.
Well this has been 1 year... and things have only gotten worse-
Why do you think this could be? What would be some of the reasons?
Could I contact her counsleor, or psych and tell them whats going on- so that way if she isnt being honest with them- they might get a better insight??
Her counselor has contacted me a few times in re: to my mom- but it was only if my mom was doing real bad- and she couldnt get in touch with her or something... and the Dr wanted to make sure she was ok....
Can you ask your mom if you can go with her to her next psychiatrist appointment?
I could- not sure how she would respond-
But I think she DEF. isnt gonna be truthful if Im there
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Posted 10/1/06 5:07 PM |
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by Princessmaris
Posted by Redhead
Depression also IMO is never CURED
You learn to deal with it
but not CURED
Well when I say "cured" I mean functional- even if that means on meds forever then yes...
of course Depression can be managed..
But it is also a very long hard road..
Especially knowing ALL the crap with your dad and brother has put her through..
I don't know how she does it to be honest..
I hope she gets the help she needs but a good psychiatrist and a good THERAPIST...is necessary
YES her being in the marriage is hard..But it can be worked through if she wants..But again...that takes a lot of time and energy..
And only SHE can know what she wants for her life
I can see why she does though..
After the horror stories you have told us, the stress your brother put on your mom...
that wousl send ANYONE NORMAL HUMAN BEING...over the edge..
i commend her actually
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Posted 10/1/06 5:09 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
Posted by nov04libride
I have a family member with depression, and sometimes it takes trying out a bunch of meds before you find the right one. I know I was on like eight BC pills before I found one that was right for me...It's the same with these meds, but on top of finding the right kind, you need the right dosage, which is just trial and error. They won't tell you anything and they won't admit her without her admitting herself unless she is a danger to herself or others.
I think alcohol for many people with depression is a means of self-medication. Don't take the things she says to heart--this is not your mother talking, it is the illess. However, my relative stopped taking meds and got considerably worse because he said they made him feel like he was "in a cloud" and couldn't think clearly. I don't know if I would leave her alone with the baby.
See- she is fine with the baby- and is fine doing things but is just SOOOOOOOOOOO nasty
She says the same things about meds, and doses all the time
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Posted 10/1/06 5:09 PM |
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05mommy09
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Re: Mental illness: Depression
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Posted by Princessmaris
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Depression also IMO is never CURED
You learn to deal with it
but not CURED
Well when I say "cured" I mean functional- even if that means on meds forever then yes...
of course Depression can be managed..
But it is also a very long hard road..
Especially knowing ALL the crap with your dad and brother has put her through..
I don't know how she does it to be honest..
I hope she gets the help she needs but a good psychiatrist and a good THERAPIST...is necessary
YES her being in the marriage is hard..But it can be worked through if she wants..But again...that takes a lot of time and energy..
And only SHE can know what she wants for her life
I can see why she does though..
After the horror stories you have told us, the stress your brother put on your mom...
that wousl send ANYONE NORMAL HUMAN BEING...over the edge..
i commend her actually
Thats why I think her staying in that house will only delay her healing process...
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