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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Not all doctors think with the same brain.
That's why people get second opinions.
Each doctor may have their own take on things.
Doctors are human too, they mess up too. I wouldn't follow a doctor from what they would do with THEIR child. It should ONLY be about MY child.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
Agree. That makes no sense.
But yeah, just give it to your kids, don't worry about it.....
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Not all doctors think with the same brain.
That's why people get second opinions.
Each doctor may have their own take on things.
Doctors are human too, they mess up too. I wouldn't follow a doctor from what they would do with THEIR child. It should ONLY be about MY child.
And you will get that advice from an internet forum..
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
Agree. That makes no sense.
But yeah, just give it to your kids, don't worry about it.....
These are the comments that tick me off. You think I didn't worry about it? You think I didn't agonize over it? We made our decision and worried about it, trust me. But feel confident after speaking to my child's pediatrician that we made the right choice. You don't want to get your child vaccinated? FINE! But stop with the comments aimed at those of us that chose differently to make it seem like we are doing harm to our kids by choosing to trust the one person we chose to look after their best interests medically.
The "you" is mostly a general "you"
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by BFNY516
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We havent had testing of students in my district, however, by the end of this week, all teachers have to show proof of vaccination , or get tested weekly. The testing is NOT done at the school, the staff are given limited locations where they have to go on their own time.
Do you teach in Nassau/Suffolk? I haven't heard of any district having this rule here requiring all teachers to be vaccinated.
Levittown is making teachers get vaccinated or get tested weekly on their own time. The letter said they can go on lunch and they are due each week.
Reasonable enough, if you ask me.
It’s a NYS requirement not a Levittown requirement.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Not all doctors think with the same brain.
That's why people get second opinions.
Each doctor may have their own take on things.
Doctors are human too, they mess up too. I wouldn't follow a doctor from what they would do with THEIR child. It should ONLY be about MY child.
And you will get that advice from an internet forum..
What advice? I am sure your advice is not from the pediatrician but your mother..
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by LastLightGlow
I feel the ethical responsibility to say this….to those who are reading this post and truly just trying to find your own information to make the best decisions you can, I beg and implore you to please ask these questions to a physician. Preferably a family doctor that has privileges in a hospital and sees their own admitted patients. Not all doctors have a full grasp on the course of Covid unless they have followed their patients in the hospital setting from the very beginning of this pandemic. Please ask them what a “shot” vs a “vaccine” is. Ask all of the questions that may have come up from reading this post. I will not refute or point out the wealth of misinformation and lack of understanding of virology here but I beg you, for the health of yourselves and family and strangers you walk past in the supermarket(if you care) to ask these questions to an experienced physician that has followed the journey of Covid and the changing protocols and recommendations from the beginning. I don’t know what else to say. -ICU provider
So if a doctor does not recommend the vaccine for young healthy children in a healthy home (with two vaccinated parents), what do you suggest we do? It ok to take that recommendation?
Asking honestly…
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Not all doctors think with the same brain.
That's why people get second opinions.
Each doctor may have their own take on things.
Doctors are human too, they mess up too. I wouldn't follow a doctor from what they would do with THEIR child. It should ONLY be about MY child.
And you will get that advice from an internet forum..
What advice? I am sure your advice is not from the pediatrician but your mother..
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Nope, I get my information when it comes to my children from their pediatrician. My MOTHER told me to ASK THEIR PEDIATRICIAN...
And if I were to get info from my mother, at least she is an educated medical professional.. unlike your uncle's wife's stepsons grandchild's twin that you get your valued info from.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
...but why is it a problem all of the sudden with this vaccine?
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
...but why is it a problem all of the sudden with this vaccine?
Can’t speak for others but I’ve always questioned that, with other vaccines and with this one once it’s approved for younger kids.
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
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Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
...but why is it a problem all of the sudden with this vaccine?
This vaccine will have different dosing for those aged 5-11. Their dosing is 1/3 od the adult dose for 12+. When you have an 11 year old about to turn 12 - if he gets it in Nov he would get 1/3 of the dose he’d get if I waited until late December when he turns 12.
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:03 PM |
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LuckyStar
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
That’s not true. Several vaccines are given in different formulations for children and adults. Hepatitis and Tdap/Dtap, for example.
The Pfizer vaccine will be formulated at a lower dose level for children 5-11 vs adults (10 vs 30).
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:04 PM |
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Not all doctors think with the same brain.
That's why people get second opinions.
Each doctor may have their own take on things.
Doctors are human too, they mess up too. I wouldn't follow a doctor from what they would do with THEIR child. It should ONLY be about MY child.
And you will get that advice from an internet forum..
What advice? I am sure your advice is not from the pediatrician but your mother..
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Nope, I get my information when it comes to my children from their pediatrician. My MOTHER told me to ASK THEIR PEDIATRICIAN...
And if I were to get info from my mother, at least she is an educated medical professional.. unlike your uncle's wife's stepsons grandchild's twin that you get your valued info from.
Sorry to hear that. My uncle’s wife’s stepson’s girlfriend might actually be a doctor or nurse but keep believing no one else talks to doctors 
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:05 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
That’s not true. Several vaccines are given in different formulations for children and adults. Hepatitis and Tdap/Dtap, for example.
The Pfizer vaccine will be formulated at a lower dose level for children 5-11 vs adults (10 vs 30).
So wouldn't weight be a better determination of dose rather than age? DD has a friend who is 11 and about the size and weight of an 8 year old. Does that matter?
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:12 PM |
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LuckyStar
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
That’s not true. Several vaccines are given in different formulations for children and adults. Hepatitis and Tdap/Dtap, for example.
The Pfizer vaccine will be formulated at a lower dose level for children 5-11 vs adults (10 vs 30).
So wouldn't weight be a better determination of dose rather than age? DD has a friend who is 11 and about the size and weight of an 8 year old. Does that matter?
In most cases, no, because a vaccine doesn’t work in the same way a medication does. Here is a really good explanation (sorry, I can never link correctly on here):
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/dosing-safety
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:17 PM |
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Bellaocchi
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Not into this garbage. Over it. Over all this covid talk, bs, control, political garbage. . OVER it.
Message edited 9/28/2021 9:26:16 PM.
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:22 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
That’s not true. Several vaccines are given in different formulations for children and adults. Hepatitis and Tdap/Dtap, for example.
The Pfizer vaccine will be formulated at a lower dose level for children 5-11 vs adults (10 vs 30).
So wouldn't weight be a better determination of dose rather than age? DD has a friend who is 11 and about the size and weight of an 8 year old. Does that matter?
In most cases, no, because a vaccine doesn’t work in the same way a medication does. Here is a really good explanation (sorry, I can never link correctly on here):
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/dosing-safety
Interesting, thanks.
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:26 PM |
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Bellaocchi
Hope Faith Love
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by windyweather21
The hysteria that ALL unvaccinated people will ABSOLUTELY get sick and possibly die is just ridiculous.
Just another scare tactic that so many people fall for.
It just goes to show how many people are easily influenced and have stopped using common sense.
THIS - Absolutely THIS
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| Posted 9/28/21 9:27 PM |
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MrsWoods
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
Got similar advice from their other doctors and from my own. Even my mom who is 81 got similar advice. They are not for it but if you want it it’s all your decision. However the government is changing that freedom of choice
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| Posted 9/28/21 10:29 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
My boys...my everything <3
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Re: No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by lululu
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Here’s to the person who said consult a doctor for accurate information.
My daughters pediatricians group, which is a group of 3 doctors and one NP, told me when i asked “when the vaccine comes out for 5 and older, do you suggest I get it?” All three said that “it is a personal choice but if you are asking personally we do not suggest it.” I asked “why?” And they feel it is unnecessary for a healthy child in a healthy household. However they will not be surprised if it forced. They also do not like giving covid testing unless necessary but they know some schools require it.
So there is my professional opinion obtained.
They must be quacks. Go find another doctor.
And my pediatrician said the EXACT opposite thing yesterday when I asked her. She said “absolutely get the vaccine for your kids.” She vaccinated her own child and has plans to vaccinate the others when it’s available.
Every doctor is going to have a different opinion on this because it is still so new and there is not a lot of long term data. I am friends with a lot of doctors, they all agree adults should get vaccinated but they have different opinions on children, especially young children. Also, just as an FYI, and I mean no disrespect towards pediatricians since they did go to medical school and pass their boards, but throughout the medical community they are typically not that highly regarded.
I have a friend who is a nurse in an NYC hospital - she is all for adults as are your friends but, is not for kids.
One thing I find questionable now too is that I have an almost 12 year old. If the timetable follows the path they are saying - if I get him vaccinated around Thanksgiving, he will get the 11 year old dose. But if I wait until Christmas time - he will get a dose 3x the size of that since he'll be 12?
The dosing should be by weight. I can't believe it's not. My 55 lb daughter should not be getting the same dose as a kid that is 110lbs and there are kids her age that weigh that much.
The dosing isn't by weight for any vaccine, is it? Flu shot included?
That’s right. Is the same dose for any vaccine, doesn’t matter if it’s a baby or a 40 year old man. Does it make sense? Not at all but it’s one of those things that pharmaceutical companies tell u it’s ok and people don’t bat an eyelid about it.
That’s not true. Several vaccines are given in different formulations for children and adults. Hepatitis and Tdap/Dtap, for example.
The Pfizer vaccine will be formulated at a lower dose level for children 5-11 vs adults (10 vs 30).
I stand corrected. That’s usually the case with most vaccines, apart from some exceptions like u mentioned. For example, adults are given higher doses of the Hepatitis B vaccine than children, whereas kids are given higher doses of the Tdap shot than adults.
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