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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
I think what's going on with the riots are awful and ridiculous. But I heard conflicting reports about the kid shot though.so I'm confused...
I heard he never robbed that store?
He was unarmed, right?
Not arguing, just trying to understand how the officer got off with shooting an unarmed kid though.
I'll be honest I am not studying this story so of anyone has all the facts... Please explain!
Thanks!
And THIS!!! THIS is the problem!!!!!!!!
(Not calling YOU out, calling out the process)
Everyone has "heard" something. The media has screwed up this story from the moment it happened.
Based on the NEWS people THINK they knew what happened. And so when the actual facts come out everyone is confused.
And angry.
And does not understand.
And is perplexed the officer "got off".
So when facts and science are introduced, well THAT can't be right can it?
The media is 99% to blame for this. It's not about the facts anymore. It's about getting anyone who will stand in front if a camera and say whatever it is they can to get on TV. Saying what they THOUgHt happened.
I'm numb at the businesses looted and burned. All those people out of work. Out of jobs. Loosing their livelihood. All the employees they paid who now don't have jobs.
Facts showed the officers account of what happened is what actually happened. Science proved it.
I'm just so angry this city was looted and burned in the name of "justice".
 
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
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| Posted 11/25/14 10:31 AM |
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by stinger
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
Maybe if he wasn't up to illegal antics and tomfoolery to BEGIN with he wouldn't be dead right now.
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| Posted 11/25/14 10:36 AM |
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by stinger
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
Maybe if he respected the police, he wouldn't be dead..
In both interviews, Wilson told investigators that Brown cursed him after the officer asked the teen and his friend, Dorian Johnson, to walk on the sidewalk instead of in the middle of the street.
“What the (expletive) are you gonna do?” Wilson said Brown told him as he tried to exit his police SUV to talk to the pair.
The officer said the 6-foot-4, 289-pound teen blocked him from opening his driver’s door and “started swinging and punching at me from outside the vehicle.”
IMO Brown wanted a fight..
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by DiamondGirl
If we are all being honest with ourselves it is a reality, black men are more of a "threat" than white men.
what in the actual eff is this?
This is why people are protesting.
Black men are routinely shot down like dogs in the street. Its bigger than Mike Brown.
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| Posted 11/25/14 10:49 AM |
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by Tulips915
Posted by stinger
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
Maybe if he respected the police, he wouldn't be dead..
In both interviews, Wilson told investigators that Brown cursed him after the officer asked the teen and his friend, Dorian Johnson, to walk on the sidewalk instead of in the middle of the street.
“What the (expletive) are you gonna do?” Wilson said Brown told him as he tried to exit his police SUV to talk to the pair.
The officer said the 6-foot-4, 289-pound teen blocked him from opening his driver’s door and “started swinging and punching at me from outside the vehicle.”
IMO Brown wanted a fight..
Maybe he did. I dont know any of the facts only the Grand jury does. My point is that we will never know Browns side. All of the testimony is from wilson. Thats a fact that im stating and cant be argued, the guy is dead and cant speak for himself!!. Im not defending one or the other.
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Officer Wilson not indicted....
You are correct that the issues are much bigger than Michael Brown. I also believe that the media should accept some responsibility for all of this, because the reporters just report what they hear from any Tom, **** or Harry without any regard for the truth or accuracy of those statements.
ETA: I forgot that D i c k, even if its a name, is *****'d out.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by JME78
Posted by DiamondGirl
If we are all being honest with ourselves it is a reality, black men are more of a "threat" than white men.
what in the actual eff is this?
This is why people are protesting.
Black men are routinely shot down like dogs in the street. Its bigger than Mike Brown.
Riiiiiight. They're just shot down for no reason. Stop breaking the law and fighting with police.
And you're right black men are being shot down in the streets, but by other black men, not the police
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| Posted 11/25/14 10:56 AM |
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Of course that's what the cop would say. Not saying it's not true, but I'm not 100 percent it's fact, either. And even the picture in that article shows an intimidating young black man and a friendly looking white cop.
If it went down any other way, of course the cop or lone survivor would paint such a picture. Whoever that would be.
I wasn't there.
But I'm not blind to how things run in this country often. If Brown had shot the cop, what would have happened?
Just the other day a rookie cop shot an unarmed black man in Brooklyn. It can't always be that the white cop is always right or justified.
I think often of Amadou Diallo and how those cops were found not guilty. I am not of the mind set that just because you wear a shield, your word is absolute truth and that every single action you take, or life you take, is justified.
And in my opinion, is it about race. People can say it's not, but it's usually those who are white that think that. I don't blame that community one bit for how they feel. I don't like the violence in protesting, but I get it.
I have white privilege. I know my privilege. People can roll their eyes at that. But I acknowledge that as a white person, I have it. It took me awhile to see it, and in opening my eyes and making connections. But I can't fault that community for being outraged. Not when I look at things at a whole and how things still exist. I think multiple things need to be acknowledged on all sides.
Not saying the cop was guilty. Or that Brown was innocent. But I can't leap to saying the opposite, either.
Just my two cents. Not up for a debate. I know this is a hot topic and everyone has his or her own thoughts and experiences and nothing can change minds.
I just wish things would change. On all sides.
And Did we forget Treyvon Martin? And the justice that didn't come for him? The guy had skittles. Not a gun. And did we forget the Zimmerman maniac that shot him? And the same maniac that still keeps having run ins with the law because he somehow thinks he's above it?
Look at what Zimmerman has been up to. Come the eff on.
I will gladly be in the minority here in saying I don't blame people one ******* bit for feeling how they feel.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by stinger
Posted by Tulips915
Posted by stinger
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
Maybe if he respected the police, he wouldn't be dead..
In both interviews, Wilson told investigators that Brown cursed him after the officer asked the teen and his friend, Dorian Johnson, to walk on the sidewalk instead of in the middle of the street.
“What the (expletive) are you gonna do?” Wilson said Brown told him as he tried to exit his police SUV to talk to the pair.
The officer said the 6-foot-4, 289-pound teen blocked him from opening his driver’s door and “started swinging and punching at me from outside the vehicle.”
IMO Brown wanted a fight..
Maybe he did. I dont know any of the facts only the Grand jury does. My point is that we will never know Browns side. All of the testimony is from wilson. Thats a fact that im stating and cant be argued, the guy is dead and cant speak for himself!!. Im not defending one or the other.
Wilson and witnesses
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by stinger
I cant understand the looting and fires...its awful.
As far as facts go, unfortunately the Jury only heard one side of the story as one of the men is dead.
But, see, you're kind of missing a big piece. This is his testimony that was corroborated, verified, and memorialized by countless witnesses as well as forensic tests, ballistic tests, and multiple autopsies. If you listened to the prosecutor last night when he went into that 25 minute explanation - he detailed all of it.
He also mentioned that the witness accounts the news chose to focus on - about him being shot in the back or shot with his hands up surrendering, all that stuff - the prosecutor explained how once the autopsy and forensic evidence proved that was IMPOSSIBLE - those witnesses withdrew their accounts and no one else came forward from that point on stating that he was shot in the back or shot as he was "surrendering".
Basically, after time, once the facts came out and science took place, and the scene was reconstructed, the only witness accounts that stood were the ones that told what truly happened -- and then the officer's story, and the witnesses stories, and the autopsy, and the ballistic findings, and allllllll that jazz came together and aligned. Once that happened - the grand jury, WITH BLACK PEOPLE ON THE grand jury, overwhelmingly decided that the officer did NOTHING criminal and did NOTHING outside the scope of his job as a police officer.
The prosecutor also answered media questions after he was done with this whole song and dance -- I watched the entire thing last night, from start to finish, and some media lady was like "were some of the witnesses who corroborated officer wilson's testimony black?" and the prosecutor said "yes, quite a few of the witnesses are black, yes".
ANYONE who is of sane mind who listened to all of the facts presented last night by the county prosecutor -- and he took into account all of the findings from not only the autopsy they did, but from the autopsy that the BROWN family's private person did!! He presented it ALL last night - anyone who listened to that would agree that there's no denying what went down. It's very open and shut. Facts are facts. And when they are backed up by numerous witnesses - and you are able to verify those accounts with science. I mean, what more do you want? So, I walked away from that whole presentation last night feeling very informed and confident in what happened.
I also walked away feeling bad for the officer and his family - I really felt, for the first time, a little bit of what he must have felt like, fearing for his life.
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There were only 3 black people on that jury. 3.
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And they needed 9 votes I believe.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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And they needed 9 votes I believe.
Yes, there were three.
But the other nine were not all white.
They were other minorities as well.
AND they mentioned that the grand jury did need nine votes but that when everything was calculated - it was unanimous. Every single person voted not to indict.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Of course that's what the cop would say. Not saying it's not true, but I'm not 100 percent it's fact, either. And even the picture in that article shows an intimidating young black man and a friendly looking white cop.
If it went down any other way, of course the cop or lone survivor would paint such a picture. Whoever that would be.
I wasn't there.
But I'm not blind to how things run in this country often. If Brown had shot the cop, what would have happened?
Just the other day a rookie cop shot an unarmed black man in Brooklyn. It can't always be that the white cop is always right or justified.
I think often of Amadou Diallo and how those cops were found not guilty. I am not of the mind set that just because you wear a shield, your word is absolute truth and that every single action you take, or life you take, is justified.
And in my opinion, is it about race. People can say it's not, but it's usually those who are white that think that. I don't blame that community one bit for how they feel. I don't like the violence in protesting, but I get it.
I have white privilege. I know my privilege. People can roll their eyes at that. But I acknowledge that as a white person, I have it. It took me awhile to see it, and in opening my eyes and making connections. But I can't fault that community for being outraged. Not when I look at things at a whole and how things still exist. I think multiple things need to be acknowledged on all sides.
Not saying the cop was guilty. Or that Brown was innocent. But I can't leap to saying the opposite, either.
Just my two cents. Not up for a debate. I know this is a hot topic and everyone has his or her own thoughts and experiences and nothing can change minds.
I just wish things would change. On all sides.
And Did we forget Treyvon Martin? And the justice that didn't come for him? The guy had skittles. Not a gun. And did we forget the Zimmerman maniac that shot him? And the same maniac that still keeps having run ins with the law because he somehow thinks he's above it?
Look at what Zimmerman has been up to. Come the eff on.
I will gladly be in the minority here in saying I don't blame people one ******* bit for feeling how they feel.
This is exactly how I feel too. I get the outrage in the community but what I don't get is the looting, violence and destruction of property.
They are destroying their own community.
What if this was a black cop instead of a white cop?
What if this was a black cop and a white kid?
What if this was a white cop and a white kid?
Would the outrage be the same.
I get that this is a race issue and in 2014 we should not be dealing with these same issues as we did in the 1960's.
The only way this is going to change is if people change. Stop looking to pull the race card - inequality comes in all shapes and sizes.
Let's change our thinking and then the actions or reactions will change.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
And they needed 9 votes I believe.
Yes, there were three.
But the other nine were not all white.
They were other minorities as well.
AND they mentioned that the grand jury did need nine votes but that when everything was calculated - it was unanimous. Every single person voted not to indict.
There were 6 white men, 3 white women, 2 black women, and one black man.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
And they needed 9 votes I believe.
Yes, there were three.
But the other nine were not all white.
They were other minorities as well.
AND they mentioned that the grand jury did need nine votes but that when everything was calculated - it was unanimous. Every single person voted not to indict.
The Grand Jury was chosen in May and is always made up to represent the ethnic statistics of the community - that was stated last night and early on.
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These "other minorities" on the jury. Do you have a link handy for me? I'm quickly googling and can't seem to find it. I'm curious. I only know of the number of blacks vs whites and men vs women
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by JME78
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
And they needed 9 votes I believe.
Yes, there were three.
But the other nine were not all white.
They were other minorities as well.
AND they mentioned that the grand jury did need nine votes but that when everything was calculated - it was unanimous. Every single person voted not to indict.
There were 6 white men, 3 white women, 2 black women, and one black man.
Oh then CNN was wrong because they stated last night that there were hispanic people on the jury.
Just goes to show ya - can't believe the media all the time!
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
These "other minorities" on the jury. Do you have a link handy for me? I'm quickly googling and can't seem to find it. I'm curious. I only know of the number of blacks vs whites and men vs women
Just wrote above - I heard this on CNN last night, they mentioned hispanics on the jury and that it was unanimous. But evidently that's not the case as someone just stated different races.
I think even taking into consideration the race is ridiculous anyway. The witnesses supporting the officer are black. Like, what does it matter?
And evidently they mentioned the jury was chosen in May as a random selection of the community demographic - chosen even before the incident occurred.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by DiamondGirl
If we are all being honest with ourselves it is a reality, black men are more of a "threat" than white men. Statisically speaking they are more dangerous and I do think it might have been a different outcome had he been a white kid. Again I am not saying the Officer purposely killed him bc he was black but I think the underlying issue is there.
I'm sorry, what?
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
And they needed 9 votes I believe.
Yes, there were three.
But the other nine were not all white.
They were other minorities as well.
AND they mentioned that the grand jury did need nine votes but that when everything was calculated - it was unanimous. Every single person voted not to indict.
The Grand Jury was chosen in May and is always made up to represent the ethnic statistics of the community - that was stated last night and early on.
The jury was chosen before the shooting even happened. I am glad there were black people not the jury. The jury should be representative of the community. What I don't understand is saying that of course the decision was wrong because there were 9 white people on it. Because... ALL white people are so incredibly racist that they would immediately side the cop against the black man?? ALL white people hate black people and are so blinded by our racism that we can't look at facts?
The facts do not support the initial witness reports.. The reports that were recanted. To be honest.. they could be charged with perjury.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
These "other minorities" on the jury. Do you have a link handy for me? I'm quickly googling and can't seem to find it. I'm curious. I only know of the number of blacks vs whites and men vs women
Just wrote above - I heard this on CNN last night, they mentioned hispanics on the jury and that it was unanimous. But evidently that's not the case as someone just stated different races.
I think even taking into consideration the race is ridiculous anyway. The witnesses supporting the officer are black. Like, what does it matter?
And evidently they mentioned the jury was chosen in May as a random selection of the community demographic - chosen even before the incident occurred.
The prosecutor last night would not say what the vote was. He said the grand jury proceedings are private and NO ONE, not even him, has the right to ask how many people voted one way or the other. So we will never know how the vote was. Unless a juror speaks out.
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Re: Officer Wilson not indicted....
Posted by sfp0701
The prosecutor last night would not say what the vote was. He said the grand jury proceedings are private and NO ONE, not even him, has the right to ask how many people voted one way or the other. So we will never know how the vote was. Unless a juror speaks out.
Note to self: no longer listen to CNN and take what they say as truth/fact 
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Officer Wilson not indicted....
All I keep thinking about is.. (sadly)
Civil Commotion
Riot
Should be covered. Hope they called up their agents. Man I'm glad I have no clients in that area. I'd be sitting by my phone all last night if that were the case. Waiting for the calls.
I feel for the people who watched the destruction. I'm glad they waited for the kids to get home from school. Most people had time to run for cover. But they should have waited until the morning for the announcement. NO answer was going to be a good answer.
All over my facebook is the meme of OJ Simpson that says "remember when the white people rioted when Simpson wasn't indicted, Me either!"
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