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MsMBV
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by Ophelia
my opinion is this....
EVERYONE is responsible/accountible to and for everyone else.
we should ALL be helping those less fortunate...why should one suffer and one gain???
I am not a socialist...I understand some people get more/make more and all that...it's fine.
but when people are living in the streets..no, it's just not fair.
I work for the US Govt...don't make a ton of cash...but I donate money every year to 5 different charities through the Combined Federal Campaign.
doctors without borders
unicef
african aids watch
City Harvest
City Meals on Wheel
it's important to me to spread my "generosity" to my backyard in Brooklyn, as well as to my global backyard.
Many very rich people give to charities...partially b/c I think they have a heart, and partially b/c it behooves them tax wise to do so.
I agree. I barely scrape by sometimes but I definitely donate to my chosen charities. DH & I both have wealthy people in our familes. My family all donate to causes they believe in and support, his do not unless there is a strong tax break for them. To them it has nothing to do with the charity, but rather the economics of how it will benefit them - not truly altruistic if you ask me. In the end it is OK I guess b/c the charity still gets the money either way.
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
I think it is a personal decision and it is no one's business - Who is anyone else to decide what a person should do with their earned money ? If they LEGALLY earn their paycheck - There is a reason they are paid what they are paid - It's very simple economics.
And even the consideration of imposing a mandatory Chriatable Donation is disturbing on so many levels ..........
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DRMom
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by MarisaK
I think it is a personal decision and it is no one's business - Who is anyone else to decide what a person should do with their earned money ? If they LEGALLY earn their paycheck - There is a reason they are paid what they are paid - It's very simple economics.
And even the consideration of imposing a mandatory Chriatable Donation is disturbing on so many levels ..........
Who said anything about mandatory
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MarisaK
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by melijane
Posted by MarisaK
I think it is a personal decision and it is no one's business - Who is anyone else to decide what a person should do with their earned money ? If they LEGALLY earn their paycheck - There is a reason they are paid what they are paid - It's very simple economics.
And even the consideration of imposing a mandatory Chriatable Donation is disturbing on so many levels ..........
Who said anything about mandatory
Did I state anyone specifically SAID it should be mandatory ? No - This is my OPINION (which you ASKED for by the way) - No need to roll eyes b/c I disagree with you. -
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by melijane
Posted by MarisaK
I think it is a personal decision and it is no one's business - Who is anyone else to decide what a person should do with their earned money ? If they LEGALLY earn their paycheck - There is a reason they are paid what they are paid - It's very simple economics.
And even the consideration of imposing a mandatory Chriatable Donation is disturbing on so many levels ..........
Who said anything about mandatory
Did I state anyone specifically SAID it should be mandatory ? No - This is my OPINION (which you ASKED for by the way) - No need to roll eyes b/c I disagree with you. -
I think that people who make all this money should donate...mandatory, no but c'mon...who needs all that money...do something charitable. I know I would if I could
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DRMom
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by melijane
Posted by MarisaK
I think it is a personal decision and it is no one's business - Who is anyone else to decide what a person should do with their earned money ? If they LEGALLY earn their paycheck - There is a reason they are paid what they are paid - It's very simple economics.
And even the consideration of imposing a mandatory Chriatable Donation is disturbing on so many levels ..........
Who said anything about mandatory
Did I state anyone specifically SAID it should be mandatory ? No - This is my OPINION (which you ASKED for by the way) - No need to roll eyes b/c I disagree with you. -
I rolled eyes because the way your wrote your statement sounds like you said I think contributions should be mandatory. I did not say that. And if you read the rest of the thread you will see I have no problems with others opinions just people putting words in my mouth. if that is not what you were saying maybe you should edit
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Eva Luna
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
My 2 cents, not that anyone cares, is that everyone should help.
Everyone should give to charity.
I agree with Ophelia in that we should take care of each other. The world is a lot smaller than we think.
Helping "mankind". I'm an idealist and possibly a socialist. Sue me.
I also think that the more you have, the more you should give. If you're "blessed" with so much (even IF it came after working very hard) why not?
But unfortunately, I also think that the same drive that makes people super successful and rich, usually makes them self-centered and feel like they don't owe anyone a thing.
So that research that shows that those less fortunate give more is probably true. Because I for one am grateful for all I have. I don't think I am entitled to anything. But alas, I'm not super rich. And it's my humble opinion that uber rich people (not just celebrities, I'm talking "regular" people too) didn't get that way by being nice and caring about others. My reasoning? Money = power = as$holes. 
Ramble over...OMG! 
ETA: I also think donating to charity is and should be private. No one should know. So yes, like many others have said, who's to say he doesn't?
I love Bloomberg for this reason...he always  and stays mum on his donations.
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by melijane
DH, BIL and I got into a big debate last night stemming from Howard Sterns huge contract with Sirius. 100 million a year for 5 years. My DH and i both felt that this amount of money is ludicrous and you could easily live on 100 or 200 million and donate the rest. Also a part of this conversation was during Michelle 31's recap of adopting her son in Ethiopia (Interested click here )
she said that her and her husband doubled their sons foster familys income for the year by giving them $30. When you think about what $100 can do for a family like that.... Discuss!
Although it is a wonderful idea, it isn't as easy as you may think. Also, most highly paid individuals do donate and sometimes only as a means to manage taxes.
In your example, Howard Stern doesn't get a W2 for his said income. It's more complicated then that. There are lots of strategies employed for individuals of this level of wealth. I would be suprised if he wasn't already involved in multiple charitable projects. They just might not be a public as you would think.
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
I think he probably gives more than we know anonymously.
George Steinbrenner gives millions a year to all kinds of charities anonymously. There are no charities with his name on it per se.
I give, I have far from the millions these guys have. I give according to what I feel I should. 5 Charities a year for me. They've all been researched and checked out by me and I love to give every year.
So to sum up, I do believe that the haves should help the have nots. But don't assume they don't already. It may not be publicized.
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DRMom
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by melijane
DH, BIL and I got into a big debate last night stemming from Howard Sterns huge contract with Sirius. 100 million a year for 5 years. My DH and i both felt that this amount of money is ludicrous and you could easily live on 100 or 200 million and donate the rest. Also a part of this conversation was during Michelle 31's recap of adopting her son in Ethiopia (Interested click here )
she said that her and her husband doubled their sons foster familys income for the year by giving them $30. When you think about what $100 can do for a family like that.... Discuss!
Although it is a wonderful idea, it isn't as easy as you may think. Also, most highly paid individuals do donate and sometimes only as a means to manage taxes.
In your example, Howard Stern doesn't get a W2 for his said income. It's more complicated then that. There are lots of strategies employed for individuals of this level of wealth. I would be suprised if he wasn't already involved in multiple charitable projects. They just might not be a public as you would think.
Hmmm true. Good point.
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robynfs
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
I think there are many ways of "giving" to charity than giving out of your own wallet. I don't have a lot to give to charity but I volunteer 3x a month. I also raised thousands for a charity this past year...so does that count?
I think Howard Stern works very hard for his wealth. He put his time, he wasn't just born into it and he gets up at 4am...now I wouldn't want a job like that. Also, do we know that Howard doesn's donate to charity?? Does he do appearances to raise money?? Don't forget he has an ex-wife he is paying alamony to and daughters to raise and put through college. Yes he is well off...but he has responsibilities like the rest of us.
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Re: Philosophical Question regarding income and charity
my 2 cents....
Do I think that he should be obligated to donate $.....no. Do I think that people in general should be more socially aware and first think about donating before upgrading from a $6 million home to a $10 million home....yes.
I think the problem is that our society has become rediculously materialistic. We need bigger, better and more and don't focus on what is truly important.
I agree with the previous poster who mentioned living simply.
We think we need too many material things in order to survive.
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