| Posted By |
Message |
| Pages: 1 [2] 3 |
julz33
i run for bacon
Member since 5/05 20584 total posts
Name:
julz
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by donegal419
Posted by julz33
I know in the older times women were saved b/c they get pregnant but I don't think thats applicable nowadays.
how does that not apply now? women STILL get pregnant......
I am pregnant right now and let me tell you if I was on that plane yesterday, believe me, I would have been asking for help!
I said that wrong.
I meant that in the past women were saved first since they could get pregnant, and continue population growth. I remember learning this in a history class.
But today we have so many people on this earth that I don't think it applies anymore.
Of course I think pregnant women should be one of the "first". But how would you know who is pregnant and who is not?
|
Posted 1/16/09 9:53 PM  |
| |
|
Long Island Weddings
Long Island's Largest Bridal Resource |
MrsM-6-7-08
<3
Member since 8/06 4249 total posts
Name:
Nicole
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by drpepper318
I don't agree with it... guess I'm the only one? 
I dont agree either, What makes a woman's life more important than a man's life?
|
| Posted 1/16/09 9:53 PM |
| |
|
GaknTak
He has my heart
Member since 12/07 1379 total posts
Name:
Tracy
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Call me old fashioned also but I completely agree
|
| Posted 1/16/09 9:56 PM |
| |
|
GioiaMia
Let's Go Rangers!
Member since 1/07 14818 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I completlely agree. When I heard that they let women and children off first it gave me a little glimmer of hope that maybe our society isn't getting as disgusting as I feared.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:10 PM |
| |
|
mcl916
my two loves
Member since 10/06 5133 total posts
Name:
Megan
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by Tilde
I completlely agree. When I heard that they let women and children off first it gave me a little glimmer of hope that maybe our society isn't getting as disgusting as I feared.
I agree, I feel like it's the right thing to do.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:12 PM |
| |
|
drpepper318
MIR MIR MIR!
Member since 6/07 8274 total posts
Name:
me
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by 1stimemom
Posted by drpepper318
I don't agree with it... guess I'm the only one?
Any reason why? I'm genuinely curious 
Sure! To me, saying "women and children first" is like saying "the lives of the men are not as important"... which I don't agree with. In my opinion, who's to decide that the life of a woman (even if she has children) is more worthwhile to save than the life of a man? I think it's pretty silly and unfair honestly, no offense to anyone who does agree with it. To me, EVERYONE's lives (whether a man, woman, or child) are EQUALLY important... to save a woman first just because she is a woman doesn't make sense to me. Hope this makes my position a little more clear
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:14 PM |
| |
|
GioiaMia
Let's Go Rangers!
Member since 1/07 14818 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by 1stimemom
Posted by drpepper318
I don't agree with it... guess I'm the only one?
Any reason why? I'm genuinely curious
Sure! To me, saying "women and children first" is like saying "the lives of the men are not as important"... which I don't agree with. In my opinion, who's to decide that the life of a woman (even if she has children) is more worthwhile to save than the life of a man? I think it's pretty silly and unfair honestly, no offense to anyone who does agree with it. To me, EVERYONE's lives (whether a man, woman, or child) are EQUALLY important... to save a woman first just because she is a woman doesn't make sense to me. Hope this makes my position a little more clear
I understand what you are saying but I dont think women should get of first bc they are more important. ..
Call me sexist or whatever you want to but I know that all of the men I know are stronger than the women I know. I know that my DH could last longer in those conditions that I could. STUPID example but even tonight when we went out - I had on a huge sweater, scarf, gloves, knit hat, hood and puffy coat - I was shaking so hard that it HURT me. DH was wearing a light cotton shirt and a cotton zip up - he stayed outside for an extra five minutes to make a phone cal and it was like it was a hot summer day out there!
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:18 PM |
| |
|
MrsM-6-7-08
<3
Member since 8/06 4249 total posts
Name:
Nicole
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by 1stimemom
Posted by drpepper318
I don't agree with it... guess I'm the only one?
Any reason why? I'm genuinely curious
Sure! To me, saying "women and children first" is like saying "the lives of the men are not as important"... which I don't agree with. In my opinion, who's to decide that the life of a woman (even if she has children) is more worthwhile to save than the life of a man? I think it's pretty silly and unfair honestly, no offense to anyone who does agree with it. To me, EVERYONE's lives (whether a man, woman, or child) are EQUALLY important... to save a woman first just because she is a woman doesn't make sense to me. Hope this makes my position a little more clear
I agree i feel the same way
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:19 PM |
| |
|
LightUpOurLife
Totally in love
Member since 8/06 12785 total posts
Name:
Bonnie-Jean
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by drpepper318
Sure! To me, saying "women and children first" is like saying "the lives of the men are not as important"... which I don't agree with. In my opinion, who's to decide that the life of a woman (even if she has children) is more worthwhile to save than the life of a man? I think it's pretty silly and unfair honestly, no offense to anyone who does agree with it. To me, EVERYONE's lives (whether a man, woman, or child) are EQUALLY important... to save a woman first just because she is a woman doesn't make sense to me. Hope this makes my position a little more clear
I agree with you 100%. I can't imagine if I was in that situation with my DH or my father, and women came first. No thank you. I'll stay until they can come with me. Just the thought of leaving them behind is bringing tears to my eyes.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:22 PM |
| |
|
drpepper318
MIR MIR MIR!
Member since 6/07 8274 total posts
Name:
me
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by Tilde
Posted by drpepper318
Posted by 1stimemom
Posted by drpepper318
I don't agree with it... guess I'm the only one?
Any reason why? I'm genuinely curious
Sure! To me, saying "women and children first" is like saying "the lives of the men are not as important"... which I don't agree with. In my opinion, who's to decide that the life of a woman (even if she has children) is more worthwhile to save than the life of a man? I think it's pretty silly and unfair honestly, no offense to anyone who does agree with it. To me, EVERYONE's lives (whether a man, woman, or child) are EQUALLY important... to save a woman first just because she is a woman doesn't make sense to me. Hope this makes my position a little more clear
I understand what you are saying but I dont think women should get of first bc they are more important. ..
Call me sexist or whatever you want to but I know that all of the men I know are stronger than the women I know. I know that my DH could last longer in those conditions that I could. STUPID example but even tonight when we went out - I had on a huge sweater, scarf, gloves, knit hat, hood and puffy coat - I was shaking so hard that it HURT me. DH was wearing a light cotton shirt and a cotton zip up - he stayed outside for an extra five minutes to make a phone cal and it was like it was a hot summer day out there!
Whoa I think you just set women's lib back about 100 years lol... just kidding...
Anyway if most people are ACTUALLY in this situation...
if it were between saving the life of my DH or other man I love and saving the life of a woman or child I've never met before.....
would I say to my DH, "do the "right thing" and sacrifice your life so this woman/child can survive instead"
HELL NO.... I would want HIM....
(as I'd imagine most people would)
To say in theory that women or children should be saved first but then if you're actually in this situation and thinking the opposite would be hypocritical...
so I'm just putting it out there how I feel from the start.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:30 PM |
| |
|
Beth
The Key to your new home....
Member since 2/06 24849 total posts
Name:
Beth
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I know if my DH was on the plane- he would want to help people that needed him - and he is a big strong guy that should be helping people that needed help - like the lady with 2 childern
so I totally agree and think women and childern first- not b/c they are more important- b/c they might need more assistance
I just think it's ironic that these people had a perfect rescue and they are being questioned for it - that says more to me about society then the fact that they helped each other
Message edited 1/16/2009 10:33:32 PM.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 10:33 PM |
| |
|
DaniJude
You're My Home <3
Member since 11/06 14815 total posts
Name:
Danielle
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Like Beth said, IDK why this is even being discussed! We should just be thankful for the fact that everyone made it out alive and safe. They did everything PERFECTLY, IMO.
But, to answer the post for "LIF fun sake" (LOL)...
Children first.
Parent/Guardian/Sole Caretakers next.
I mean, I know plenty of men that are the sole custodian for their child. So, I don't think it should be based on gender first as much as it should be based on who is the provider.
However, like someone above posted - doing all of this "separating" could take up precious time in an emergency.
Message edited 1/16/2009 11:34:04 PM.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 11:30 PM |
| |
|
DaniJude
You're My Home <3
Member since 11/06 14815 total posts
Name:
Danielle
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by Beth1210
I just think it's ironic that these people had a perfect rescue and they are being questioned for it - that says more to me about society then the fact that they helped each other
Ironic and sad! ITA with you. All of these people made it out safely - it is a MIRACLE. Why can't we just be so thankful and appreciative for their lives and ONLY that?? I feel like a lot of people need to keep their 'eye on the ball' here... we witnessed a miracle from God yesterday. I can't even imagine if it had been the other way around. 
|
| Posted 1/16/09 11:33 PM |
| |
|
dandr10199
Grace is growing up too fast!
Member since 10/05 11561 total posts
Name:
Dina
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by vmystique33
I agree that child and parent( mother,father,or gaurdian) should go first !!
I agree. Most times a child is with the mom. If we were flying and it was Me, Dh and DD on the plane, I KNOW DH would let us go first and he would stay behind. Part of why I love him so much. 
If it was a child with their father you have to have the child go with the dad. Yet if it was a family traveling, I believe the child(ren) should go with the mom & the dad should stay behind. Let all the moms and kids on rafts first, then everyone else.
|
| Posted 1/16/09 11:37 PM |
| |
|
dandr10199
Grace is growing up too fast!
Member since 10/05 11561 total posts
Name:
Dina
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by Beth1210
I know if my DH was on the plane- he would want to help people that needed him - and he is a big strong guy that should be helping people that needed help - like the lady with 2 childern
so I totally agree and think women and childern first- not b/c they are more important- b/c they might need more assistance
I just think it's ironic that these people had a perfect rescue and they are being questioned for it - that says more to me about society then the fact that they helped each other
Well said Beth!!!!
|
| Posted 1/16/09 11:43 PM |
| |
|
JenG
Love my little boy!
Member since 6/05 2489 total posts
Name:
Jen
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by 1stimemom
Call me old fashioned, but I agree with it
ditto
|
| Posted 1/17/09 12:43 AM |
| |
|
Kidsaplenty
Sister love
Member since 2/06 5971 total posts
Name:
Stephanie
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I think children and they guardians should go first. I know if it was my DH he would absolutely let a woman with her child go before him. I personally would be very upset if he didn't.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 2:11 AM |
| |
|
PaddysGirl
Little princess is here!
Member since 4/07 5923 total posts
Name:
Crystal
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I do agree with it and not not just because I am a woman.
I was actually taken back when I heard they did follow this "rule". Honestly if they didn't it may have been more chaotic (this situation or any) being no standard in place.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 4:40 AM |
| |
|
Bxgell2
Perfection
Member since 5/05 16438 total posts
Name:
Beth
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I talked to DH about this last night - I was suprised, considering he's Israeli, that he completely agreed with the theory of women and children first. The children/guardian aspect is obvious - as far as women go, he made a good point.
The truth is, generally speaking, women simply aren't as strong as men. We can argue all we want, but physically and biologically this is a fact of life and there's no getting around it. I think many men, including my husband, would stay back because they know they have more strength and endurance to survive longer in harsher circumstances, as opposed to most women.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 8:03 AM |
| |
|
DeniseMarie
<3
Member since 8/07 10682 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
i think someone would have to pry me from DH. Although he would probably make me leave him, I dont think I could.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 8:40 AM |
| |
|
browneyedgirl
family is all that matters
Member since 6/06 6513 total posts
Name:
browneyes
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
i completely agree with it. men are more capable of helping others since they are typically stronger, and may be able to take care of themselves more than a woman can. women and children should always go first, followed by men. i know my husband is significantly stronger than i am and could help a lot more than i could.
and i'll be honest. i would be BEYOND PROUD of my husband if he gave his life to help others, especially women and children. to know he gave his life to help others would help me. if i knew he was selfish in order to save himself, i would have a different view of him. of course i want my husband here, but to know he acted heroically would be amazing. i know that HE would never get off a plane if there were women and children still on board. i know he would give his life for others.
old fashioned values are gone in this world. it's quite sad.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 9:12 AM |
| |
|
TheDivineMrsM
2 girls 4 me!
Member since 8/08 7878 total posts
Name:
Mama mama mama....
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I don't think I'd be able to leave DH on a sinking plane/boat/island. I like to think I'd stay with him until we could BOTH be rescued.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 9:20 AM |
| |
|
maybebaby
LIF Adult
Member since 11/05 6870 total posts
Name:
Maureen
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
I sincerely would hope that every human would think children should definitely be first before anyone else...
And I think women or caregivers next...it's a chivalry thing and an old fashioned mindset maybe, but this is how I feel. And I know my husband would make sure all women and children were out before taking care of himself...he woudln't have it any other way, and I hope most men would feel that way too!
|
| Posted 1/17/09 9:22 AM |
| |
|
Christine
2nd verse same as the 1st
Member since 5/05 15287 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Every man I know would automatically make sure that women and children were safely off that plane without being instructed to wait.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 9:26 AM |
| |
|
MsMBV
:P
Member since 5/05 28602 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Plane crash spinoff - women and children first?
Posted by vmystique33
I agree that child and parent( mother,father,or gaurdian) should go first !!
Same here. Same with infirmed or persons who cannot help themselves.
|
| Posted 1/17/09 9:32 AM |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] 3 |
