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MichelleR
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by leighla
Posted by MichelleR
Posted by leighla
What happened about innocent until proven guilty? 
That's just for the courts, not for me to believe.
So you don't believe in the justice system?
If they find him not guilty you still want him punished?
No, not at all. I was just saying that it is the courts obligation to believe in innocent until proven guilty. I, however, think he is guilty. I am not bound by law to believe he is innocent.
Thats all I was saying.
(this all lies on the hope that they DO find him guilty in a court of law)
ETA:
And no, I don't really have faith in our justice system. Many innocent people have been found guilty, and vice versa. It is flawed in many ways.
Message edited 7/18/2007 11:43:36 AM.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by leighla
Posted by stephanief
Posted by leighla
Posted by jms100303
I am not saying that I think what he has done is wrong - it is sick & cruel. He should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, I don't understand why the NFL should ban him for life? Only because if he is found guilty he should be in jail and wouldn't have to worry about playing pro ball. Not to mention what about the pro athletes who have committed other horrific crimes including murder, rape, and domestic violence. Shouldn't they all be banned as well?
Just my .02
I agree. Also, he hasn't been found guilty yet.
What happened about innocent until proven guilty?
I think it does not need to be said that if he is found innocent, he will not be banned....where did anyone say he was guilty?
The nature of the petition.
Nowhere does it say IF Vick is found guilty ban him.
It's saying ban him now.
then like lauren said, by all means, do not sign it, that is your right 
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| Posted 7/18/07 11:45 AM |
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LaurenExp
Waiting patiently for baby sis
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
And regardless of his innocence or guilt in the actual wrongdoings, it was still on property he owned. He shouldn't be liable for what's done on his property? It's completely ridiculous to think that he wouldn't know what's going on there.
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| Posted 7/18/07 11:55 AM |
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MichelleR
my Becks
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by LaurenExp
And regardless of his innocence or guilt in the actual wrongdoings, it was still on property he owned. He shouldn't be liable for what's done on his property? It's completely ridiculous to think that he wouldn't know what's going on there.
Exactly!!
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| Posted 7/18/07 11:57 AM |
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
I DO NOT THINK HE SHOULD BE BANNED but I do think he should punished to a certain dregree.
Message edited 7/18/2007 11:57:46 AM.
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| Posted 7/18/07 11:57 AM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Signed
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| Posted 7/18/07 11:59 AM |
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Maathy317
Grammie's Little Man
Member since 2/06 3235 total posts
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Signed. Just when you think people cannot sink any lower, someone comes along that proves you wrong. I never liked him. He was always an arrogant, self-serving pr**k.
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| Posted 7/18/07 12:05 PM |
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Maathy317
Grammie's Little Man
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by jms100303
I am not saying that I think what he has done is wrong - it is sick & cruel. He should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, I don't understand why the NFL should ban him for life? Only because if he is found guilty he should be in jail and wouldn't have to worry about playing pro ball. Not to mention what about the pro athletes who have committed other horrific crimes including murder, rape, and domestic violence. Shouldn't they all be banned as well?
Just my .02
His banning is not only based on what he is accused of. It is, also, because the commissioner of the NFL has been talking with him about this issue since April and, repeatedly, asked him what his part in this was. He kept saying that he didn't know anything about it when in fact he knew exactly what was going on and he was an active part of it. All players have a morals clause in their contracts and this falls under it. The commissioner was willing to work with him if he would have told the truth, but, arrogant a@@hole that he is, he thought he would be able to slide by. I hope they do ban him for life. He has no one but himself to blame.
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| Posted 7/18/07 12:11 PM |
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JenandMikey
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We're so blessed!
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
signed and i hope he rots in jail!
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| Posted 7/18/07 12:16 PM |
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codybear
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by leighla
Posted by MichelleR
Posted by leighla
What happened about innocent until proven guilty?
That's just for the courts, not for me to believe.
So you don't believe in the justice system?
If they find him not guilty you still want him punished?
I signed. I read the entire complaint. There are cooperating witnesses that implicated him in an active role. I think he's guilty, probably really really dispicably guilty, but at least to some extent. Let the court sort out jail time (hopefully a lot of it) but I think he should be banned.
For the record, I also think ANY player that committs any felony should be banned, plus some other things that might not rise to the level of a felony.
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| Posted 7/18/07 12:19 PM |
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LaurenExp
Waiting patiently for baby sis
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L-Diddy EDD 11/11/11 :)
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Yep, I bumped it! 
Please, if you'd be so kind...sign if you *agree* with the petition...thanks.
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| Posted 7/18/07 2:08 PM |
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J9-13
We're gonna be big sisters!
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
signed!
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| Posted 7/18/07 2:13 PM |
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honeywolf73
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Christine
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Signed
This has been going on for years there is no way he didn't know about it. No matter what his involvment if he had any idea about what was happening I think he should be banned. It seems like they have been building a case up.
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| Posted 7/18/07 2:28 PM |
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JessieQ
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
signed!
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| Posted 7/18/07 2:31 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Signed!
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| Posted 7/18/07 4:59 PM |
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LisaI
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
He is so involved in this. I live in GA and it's been on the news here for a very long time. My friends are cops here and know for a fact he was invovled here and in MD. Like I stated earlier Ga is huge in dog (pitbull) fighting and it's so terribly sad what these poor animals go through. they are actually wonderful dogs and should not be put in this situation. the state is actually banning all pitbulls to be owned.
ETA: He signed a contract to represent the NFL, if you are doing anything illegal than yes you should be banned. just my personal opinion.
Message edited 7/18/2007 5:25:56 PM.
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| Posted 7/18/07 5:24 PM |
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MrsMessina
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
If in fact he did this, or he just knew that it was being done, on his property or not, it's completely disgusting and wrong. People like this shouldn't be allowed to play professionally so they can become role models so they can be looked up at by children, nor should they be allowed to make massive amounts of money so they can afford to luxury of buying as many animals, etc... to then turn around and harm them. What ever happened to an eye for an eye? If he turns out to be guilty, he should get what he did done to him. Just because they were animals, it doesn't make it any less of a crime- in so many ways it makes it more of a crime b/c they weren't in a position to defend themselves.
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| Posted 7/18/07 5:47 PM |
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zaidam
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
I agree and I signed. My family has a pit bull, and he is such a wonderful dog. It breaks my heart to know that people do this to them, they are innocent victims.
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| Posted 7/18/07 5:53 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Signed
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| Posted 7/18/07 6:28 PM |
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july06bride
I'm a mom!
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
signed!
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| Posted 7/18/07 6:30 PM |
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TwoGirls4Me
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by MrsSupermarket
I agree and I signed. My family has a pit bull, and he is such a wonderful dog. It breaks my heart to know that people do this to them, they are innocent victims.
I signed and I agree, its so so sad. My parents have 3, yes 3 pitbulls and they are the sweetest, mushiest dogs in the world. Its people like him that give this breed a bad image. I hope he is banned and jailed for a very long time.
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| Posted 7/18/07 6:35 PM |
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TiggerBounce
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
done.
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| Posted 7/18/07 7:55 PM |
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chelle
It's a Good Life
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Isn't it obvious?
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
SIGNED and I hope they ban the S O B.
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| Posted 7/18/07 7:59 PM |
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Beth
The Key to your new home....
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
I would rather sign a petition to ban all felons
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| Posted 7/18/07 8:05 PM |
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zaidam
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Re: Please sign this petition to ban Atlanta Falcons player Michael Vick from the NFL for Dog fighting and Animal Cruelty
Posted by exotica776
Posted by MrsSupermarket
I agree and I signed. My family has a pit bull, and he is such a wonderful dog. It breaks my heart to know that people do this to them, they are innocent victims.
I signed and I agree, its so so sad. My parents have 3, yes 3 pitbulls and they are the sweetest, mushiest dogs in the world. Its people like him that give this breed a bad image. I hope he is banned and jailed for a very long time.
Arent they? I love that guy.
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