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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by BargainMama
I think taking away a student's chair is a serious punishment and warrants a note home. If the child is talking and needs to be corrected, entirely different issue. Unless the teacher is of course taping the child's mouth shut. Wonder if that will come next? Talking, only way to stop it right! Obviously I'm saying that tongue in cheek.
I applaud the OP's Principal for realizing this is corporal punishment. I am okay with the fact that my opinion isn't a popular one 
I agree with you. I taught in a pretty rough middle school in the city and would have been in a lot of trouble if I'd ever made a kid stand.
The teacher's claim of the child's safety is pretty important, IMO, and warranted a call or note- even if punishment was not involved I think the OP sitting down with her son to explain how he could hurt himself would have been helpful.
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Posted by 05mommy09
Sometimes I feel like teachers are damned if they do and damned if they don't...
I have read posts on this very board where parents felt that removing him against the wall, making him sit on the ground (carpet), or separating him from the group would be considered "abuse"....
Had he fallen and hurt his head- then we'd be saying there was lack of supervision and why didn't she do something to prevent it.....
JMO- but first priority, should always be keeping my child safe.... (and then my son and I would be having a little chat about respect for the teacher, respect for the classroom/furniture, and on how the teacher shouldn't have to ask more than once) - assuming there was a warning before the chair was removed...
I agree...I hear from TEACHER friends how there class is run by parents because they do not like how a teacher disciplines, what there rules are for the class, how much homework is given, wether it be to much or not enough.
Our kids are with there teachers for 6-7 hours a day. As long as the teacher is not calling my child a name and hitting them with a ruler, then I am ok with there rules.
Remember when we were kids and would pass notes back and forth? If we got caught the teacher read it.
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i am going to be honest I just dont see how what she did is THAT bad. I am not a teacher but a parent of a first grader. Based on what she said about him pushing hte chair back, it kinda seems like reasonable action. Can't use a chair properly, it gets taken away. It wasnt a permanent thing afterall.
As a parent I get the gut reaction when our kids are singled out. Last year I came on here when I found out htat DS was the only kid in his K class who was not allowed to use colored pencils in his class because he colored too slow. I realized that my initial reaction which was anger was because this was MY kid and I was feeling horrible for him. However the teacher was right DS was a snail with the pencils and he had to learn that if he wanted to color with them he had to be able to keep up with the class. After a time, he was given that privilage back.
You said that standing subjects your son to ridicule. But all types of punishment woudl do the same, sitting apart from the class, doing his work on the floor (which I would be more upset about than standing IMO), etc they all make him stand out.
The one area I totally agree is that here is NO reason the teacher didnt send a note home. DS's K teacher had a 3 light system. THey started the day on green, if they were "bad" they moved to yellow, if they kept doing it they moved to red and got a note home. And at the end of the week they didnt recieve a prize for good behavior. DS got moved 1x to red and learned his lesson, listening to the teacher is important!! Anytime any punishment is required, time outs, no recess, etc a note should be sent home. I think that there is no excuse for that on the part of the teacher.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by Kelly9904
The one area I totally agree is that here is NO reason the teacher didnt send a note home. DS's K teacher had a 3 light system. THey started the day on green, if they were "bad" they moved to yellow, if they kept doing it they moved to red and got a note home. And at the end of the week they didnt recieve a prize for good behavior. DS got moved 1x to red and learned his lesson, listening to the teacher is important!! Anytime any punishment is required, time outs, no recess, etc a note should be sent home. I think that there is no excuse for that on the part of the teacher.
GL
We have a similar system in class also.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Kelly9904
The one area I totally agree is that here is NO reason the teacher didnt send a note home. DS's K teacher had a 3 light system. THey started the day on green, if they were "bad" they moved to yellow, if they kept doing it they moved to red and got a note home. And at the end of the week they didnt recieve a prize for good behavior. DS got moved 1x to red and learned his lesson, listening to the teacher is important!! Anytime any punishment is required, time outs, no recess, etc a note should be sent home. I think that there is no excuse for that on the part of the teacher.
GL
We have a similar system in class also.
I think its a fair system, its also a great visual for the kids that young. They See where they stand and they have to move their car or clip etc. For the record the teacher told me (this incident happened the day before pt conferences of course! lol) that she almost didnt give him the red light. But I told her i wanted her to. At that age my DS needed to understand the expectations and consequences. He never got another red light!
I am not saying a note home for every tiem she says "stop that" is necessary, but if its severe enough to give him a punishment, its enough I need to know about it to reinforce the classroom rules at home!
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by ml110
DS is only 3 so I haven't been there personally yet.... But I did work in an elementary school for 8 years.
Honestly, after hearing the story- I wouldn't be mad. He was rocking in his chair, and she took it away for a few minutes- NOT the whole rest of the day. You can only say "sit still" so many times. Taking it away for a FEW MINUTES ( again, were not talking standing up for hours!) is a good way to show him "ok, she really means it!" The same way that if he's being rough with a toy you would take it away for a little bit.
I agree
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I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I completely agree. I don't get it. My child has received punishments at school (losing a portion of recess, losing a privilege, etc), and I wasn't notified. Why would I be-- I expect that when I send my kid to school, there will be a system of discipline and consequences. The teachers have to do SOMETHING to maintain general order and safety.
And from another perspective, imagine a different post that began: "My kindergartener had to go to the nurse today. Another child was rocking in his chair and fell backward, hitting my DC. Should I be upset?". Everybody would be screaming that the teacher can't control her class, something needs to be done, etc.
Like Eireann though, I am a product of Catholic school and I send my kids to Catholic school, so maybe I don't understand public school culture, maybe the discipline is different.
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| Posted 10/10/13 11:40 AM |
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I understand why you are upset. I cried when my ds had to eat lunch in the office as a punishment. 
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Posted by greenybeans
I understand why you are upset. I cried when my ds had to eat lunch in the office as a punishment.
Being upset because of a punishment is different then saying the teacher was wrong and used a extreme punishment. You want him to get PT and OT because he was leaning back in his chair? I don't get it...
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Punishment ???
I was in a class yesterday of 6 yr olds. This exact scenerio happened. I did not think anything of it. I would ask my son why he was not able to listen to teacher if he was told not to rock.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
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You have a long school year & many more years of school with your son. I'm not a teacher but it looks like you are - so I would suggest this - approach every situation as you would want a parent to approach things that happen in your classroom. As a teacher, you have a greater insight into how kids can twist something or parents can overreact without getting complete information.
Try to push your momma bear instinct down until you get the full story. I know it's hard. But pairing with the teacher for a successful school year is important. If your kid detects (yes, even in kindergarten) that he can play you against each other, it won't go well.
I would suggest that the teacher bring the kid to the side & tell him the non-verbal way that she is going to tell him to behave. You don't want to give too much attention to the kid who can't sit still because it (1) can encourage him (2) ostracize him from his peers. Being the kid that misbehaves in class is only funny for so long before other kids don't want to associate with the one misbehaving.
Telling her to contact OT, PT, and psychologist to develop a plan over a kid tipping back on his chair is a huge overreaction, not to mention if she did this, as a taxpayer I'd be pissed at the waste of resource. even if you were exaggerating your point, that's not helpful to the conversation you were having. Personally, I think she's owed an apology.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by computergirl
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I completely agree. I don't get it. My child has received punishments at school (losing a portion of recess, losing a privilege, etc), and I wasn't notified. Why would I be-- I expect that when I send my kid to school, there will be a system of discipline and consequences. The teachers have to do SOMETHING to maintain general order and safety.
And from another perspective, imagine a different post that began: "My kindergartener had to go to the nurse today. Another child was rocking in his chair and fell backward, hitting my DC. Should I be upset?". Everybody would be screaming that the teacher can't control her class, something needs to be done, etc.
Like Eireann though, I am a product of Catholic school and I send my kids to Catholic school, so maybe I don't understand public school culture, maybe the discipline is different.
DITTO!! OMG, I would NOT want to be a teacher of your child. ....Sorry to be so harsh, but are you serious about all of this?
And standing for 5 minutes is corporal punishment? I guess I'm too tough, but thats not rough at all.
OMG, your kid misbehaved...And rather than teaching your child that what they did was wrong and this is why next time they should behave...YOUR child is watching you fight a battle with their teacher? What kind of lesson is that?
Sorry, I know you will disagree, but I just am shocked by all of this.
I see nothing wrong with what was done, nothing wrong with them not sending a note (why because your child stood for 5 minutes??), and then to call out a teacher for lack of communication???
Its gonna be a LONG school year for you!!
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by nrthshgrl
Telling her to contact OT, PT, and psychologist to develop a plan over a kid tipping back on his chair is a huge overreaction, not to mention if she did this, as a taxpayer I'd be pissed at the waste of resource. even if you were exaggerating your point, that's not helpful to the conversation you were having. Personally, I think she's owed an apology.
you want a phone call or note for punishment that's fine I understand that
but this is also the part I don't get, did you really mean it or were you still pulling the teacher card about all the resources you know about and that if your child is such a problem to the teacher then she should have him evaluated, I really don't get it, because if you were serious its definitely an overreaction
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by sunnygirl
Posted by nrthshgrl
Telling her to contact OT, PT, and psychologist to develop a plan over a kid tipping back on his chair is a huge overreaction, not to mention if she did this, as a taxpayer I'd be pissed at the waste of resource. even if you were exaggerating your point, that's not helpful to the conversation you were having. Personally, I think she's owed an apology.
you want a phone call or note for punishment that's fine I understand that
but this is also the part I don't get, did you really mean it or were you still pulling the teacher card about all the resources you know about and that if your child is such a problem to the teacher then she should have him evaluated, I really don't get it, because if you were serious its definitely an overreaction
I am quoting you, because you were the last person who responded, but I am answering a lot of different posts. First of all, I am very interested to hear all your responses. They are so VERY different from all of my colleagues, who actually thought I should have contacted the principal. NONE of them thought that this was an acceptable punishment, and many of them have K, 1st and 2nd graders that I posed the problem to.
And I agree with you all about disciplining my own son. After I heard from the teacher, he was punished at home for not listening to his teacher. We also had a long talk about safety. And I never once said anything to him about his teacher, nor did I say or do anything in front of him. I know that I don't want to put us at odds and TO HIM, I agreed with the teacher (even when I didn't know the whole story). I NEVER said my child was right to be doing it. I understand that it is a safety concern. Again, I also never thought that the teacher shouldn't have disciplined my child. However, I feel that way she disciplined was wrong.
As for the OT/PT brainstorming strategies, at back to school night, it was brought up that the OT/PT/ST/Psychologist all push into the class, not just to work with the classified students, but to see at risk students to prevent them from receiving services. They push in one time per week. My son received OT last year for a short period of time, before he was declassified. At his declassification meeting it was also brought up that the OT would be pushing in. Lots of students, including my son, are sensory seeking. When I spoke to the teacher, I asked if the punishment that she gave worked. She said no, and he continued to do it. She even stated that she didn't think he knew he was doing it. I don't think it is a "waste of taxpayer money" for a teacher to brainstorm situations with people who have more experience than they do in areas. I do it all the time. Sometimes, we don't know everything and it is good to get other input. If it was severe enough on the second month of k and bothered her enough to make my child stand while working, it should absolutely be something she should brainstorm with other professionals (even other teachers).
For those of you that disagree - that is what is great about the world we live in - we are each allowed to have our own opinions.
I am also happy to say that the teacher DID brainstorm with the OT and the OT provided some great suggestions for the teacher! I also thanked her today for meeting with the OT and following through with my suggestion. Hopefully, she will utilize those suggestions and we won't have a problem again!
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Re: Punishment ???
After your explanation of the to comment it makes sense, without that info it seemed to come out of left field that you would mention it,
As you said we all have different opinions and it is good that they can be discussed. I for one am glad I read this because even though I have told students if you don't stop you are going to lose your chair I have never had to actually make them stand. It never occurred to me a parent would be this upset over it since I would never be so upset. It's always good to see the other side of the story. I still don't think it's a big deal but again that is my opinion. As long as you are satisfied with the outcome of speaking to the teacher that is all that matters
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by JerseyMamaOf3
Posted by 05mommy09
Sometimes I feel like teachers are damned if they do and damned if they don't...
I have read posts on this very board where parents felt that removing him against the wall, making him sit on the ground (carpet), or separating him from the group would be considered "abuse"....
Had he fallen and hurt his head- then we'd be saying there was lack of supervision and why didn't she do something to prevent it.....
JMO- but first priority, should always be keeping my child safe.... (and then my son and I would be having a little chat about respect for the teacher, respect for the classroom/furniture, and on how the teacher shouldn't have to ask more than once) - assuming there was a warning before the chair was removed...
I agree...I hear from TEACHER friends how there class is run by parents because they do not like how a teacher disciplines, what there rules are for the class, how much homework is given, wether it be to much or not enough.
Our kids are with there teachers for 6-7 hours a day. As long as the teacher is not calling my child a name and hitting them with a ruler, then I am ok with there rules.
Remember when we were kids and would pass notes back and forth? If we got caught the teacher read it.
I actually had to stand behind my chair for rocking back and forth or leaning back. I think I was in 1st grade. And I was a very well behaved student.
I wouldnt tell my mom though because any disciplining my teacher did was not going to be nowhere near as bad as if my mom got a hold of me.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by sunnygirl
After your explanation of the to comment it makes sense, without that info it seemed to come out of left field that you would mention it,
As you said we all have different opinions and it is good that they can be discussed. I for one am glad I read this because even though I have told students if you don't stop you are going to lose your chair I have never had to actually make them stand. It never occurred to me a parent would be this upset over it since I would never be so upset. It's always good to see the other side of the story. I still don't think it's a big deal but again that is my opinion. As long as you are satisfied with the outcome of speaking to the teacher that is all that matters
I agree.
I thought you were throwing it out there as an over the top suggestion to the teacher about a kid tipping back a few times & got punished for it because you were angry about the punishment itself.
I'm a huge advocate of getting a child evaluated if you have any concerns. Knowing your son had sensory seeking behaviors changes my opinion on how this should have been handled (although stopping the chair tipping still needed to happen).
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by kerrycec03
Posted by computergirl
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I completely agree. I don't get it. My child has received punishments at school (losing a portion of recess, losing a privilege, etc), and I wasn't notified. Why would I be-- I expect that when I send my kid to school, there will be a system of discipline and consequences. The teachers have to do SOMETHING to maintain general order and safety.
And from another perspective, imagine a different post that began: "My kindergartener had to go to the nurse today. Another child was rocking in his chair and fell backward, hitting my DC. Should I be upset?". Everybody would be screaming that the teacher can't control her class, something needs to be done, etc.
Like Eireann though, I am a product of Catholic school and I send my kids to Catholic school, so maybe I don't understand public school culture, maybe the discipline is different.
DITTO!! OMG, I would NOT want to be a teacher of your child. ....Sorry to be so harsh, but are you serious about all of this?
And standing for 5 minutes is corporal punishment? I guess I'm too tough, but thats not rough at all.
OMG, your kid misbehaved...And rather than teaching your child that what they did was wrong and this is why next time they should behave...YOUR child is watching you fight a battle with their teacher? What kind of lesson is that?
Sorry, I know you will disagree, but I just am shocked by all of this.
I see nothing wrong with what was done, nothing wrong with them not sending a note (why because your child stood for 5 minutes??), and then to call out a teacher for lack of communication???
Its gonna be a LONG school year for you!!
Phew...I thought I was the only for awhile there thinking - SERIOUSLY??
I agree with the teacher. These are the reasons why schools are so 'pc' these days - too many parents who think they're kids didn't deserve to be treated this way or that way.
If the chair was taken away for the rest of the day - then YES, I think that would be completly uncalled for. 5 minutes - no way.
I'm sure he was told several times to stop - he didn't, so she did what she had to make sure he understood she was serious.
That is FAR from ridicule and corporal punishment.
I ask my son everyday when he comes home from school how his day was and if there were any issues. He has told me once that he was put in time out for not listening when it was time to clean-up. I never received a letter from the teacher explaining why she did that...I never even questioned it.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I'm with you..I much rather my kid stand for 5 minutes then God forbid get hurt while rocking back and forth in the chair.
Maybe I'm a mean mom but I can't see how anyone can call that corporate punishment.
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Wow...this thread is really surprising me. When I was in second grade, the teacher made us stand around the classroom for probably 20 minutes or so if we were rowdy walking down the hallways. Parents knew and didn't say a thing about it. It taught us to behave.
As some other posters said though, I am also the product of Catholic school and will send my DCs to Catholic school...so perhaps my perspective is different.
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Re: Punishment ???
Posted by kerrycec03
Posted by computergirl
Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I completely agree. I don't get it. My child has received punishments at school (losing a portion of recess, losing a privilege, etc), and I wasn't notified. Why would I be-- I expect that when I send my kid to school, there will be a system of discipline and consequences. The teachers have to do SOMETHING to maintain general order and safety.
And from another perspective, imagine a different post that began: "My kindergartener had to go to the nurse today. Another child was rocking in his chair and fell backward, hitting my DC. Should I be upset?". Everybody would be screaming that the teacher can't control her class, something needs to be done, etc.
Like Eireann though, I am a product of Catholic school and I send my kids to Catholic school, so maybe I don't understand public school culture, maybe the discipline is different.
DITTO!! OMG, I would NOT want to be a teacher of your child. ....Sorry to be so harsh, but are you serious about all of this?
And standing for 5 minutes is corporal punishment? I guess I'm too tough, but thats not rough at all.
OMG, your kid misbehaved...And rather than teaching your child that what they did was wrong and this is why next time they should behave...YOUR child is watching you fight a battle with their teacher? What kind of lesson is that?
Sorry, I know you will disagree, but I just am shocked by all of this.
I see nothing wrong with what was done, nothing wrong with them not sending a note (why because your child stood for 5 minutes??), and then to call out a teacher for lack of communication???
Its gonna be a LONG school year for you!!
I totally agree with you ladies! My DS' nursery teacher actually gave her class of 3 year olds a similar punishment when they failed to listen to her when she told them to stop running in the class. I was actually glad to hear that there was a discipline for the kids bad behavior. Maybe they will remember the next time what happened when they didn't listen. We are in catholic school for right now & he will go to public for the rest of his education, which I am dreading b/c I remember there was no discipline in public when I was a kid but catholic is going to be to expensive for us over the years with 2 kids.
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| Posted 10/11/13 5:52 PM |
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Goobster
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Re: Punishment ???
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Posted by Eireann
I have to say, I am completely flabbergasted that people feel that making a child stand for five minutes is corporal punishment. Five minutes? Five?!
I'm trying to see all sides here (I am the parent of a 3rd and a 1st grader as well as one in nursery AND I'm a teacher...secondary ed, though) and I just can't think of any realm in which I would say anything other than "Good!" if my child came home and said she'd stood for 5 minutes because of fidgeting, tilting the chair, or honestly whatever. I really don't even think I'd care that I wasn't notified over something so minor. Maybe because my DC, my DH, and I have spent our entire educational (and in my case, professional) careers in Catholic school this is so...idk...
It takes a village...
I completely agree. I don't get it. My child has received punishments at school (losing a portion of recess, losing a privilege, etc), and I wasn't notified. Why would I be-- I expect that when I send my kid to school, there will be a system of discipline and consequences. The teachers have to do SOMETHING to maintain general order and safety.
And from another perspective, imagine a different post that began: "My kindergartener had to go to the nurse today. Another child was rocking in his chair and fell backward, hitting my DC. Should I be upset?". Everybody would be screaming that the teacher can't control her class, something needs to be done, etc.
Like Eireann though, I am a product of Catholic school and I send my kids to Catholic school, so maybe I don't understand public school culture, maybe the discipline is different.
DITTO!! OMG, I would NOT want to be a teacher of your child. ....Sorry to be so harsh, but are you serious about all of this?
And standing for 5 minutes is corporal punishment? I guess I'm too tough, but thats not rough at all.
OMG, your kid misbehaved...And rather than teaching your child that what they did was wrong and this is why next time they should behave...YOUR child is watching you fight a battle with their teacher? What kind of lesson is that?
Sorry, I know you will disagree, but I just am shocked by all of this.
I see nothing wrong with what was done, nothing wrong with them not sending a note (why because your child stood for 5 minutes??), and then to call out a teacher for lack of communication???
Its gonna be a LONG school year for you!!
I have to say I agree with this. I am in education, and i am also am the product of Catholic school. I would be more upset that my child disturbed the class or took time away from the teacher/class, than my child's chair being taken away for 5 minutes, for their own safety, others safety and to make a point.
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Punishment ???
I think this was an inappropriate way to discipline your son. I can understand why you were upset. In addition, I think that it warranted a note home.
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