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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
Any "I heard" or "I could be wrong, but..." (see post above!) or "my best friend's second cousin" anecdotes are ridiculous. If you have some FACTS to add to a discussion, great. But the rest it total BS.
Pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
PIP: Large prospective epidemiologic studies have shown that long-term use of oral contraceptives containing estrogen induce an increase in blood pressure and sharply increase the risk of hypertension. Susceptibility to the hypertensive effects of oral contraceptives is heightened where risk factors such as age, family history of hypertension, preexisting or occult renal disease, parity and obesity exist. Hypertension among pill users usually develops within the first 6 months of usage and occasionally is delayed for as long as 6 years. Anitihypertensive therapy is seldom needed as the hypertension that developes is generally mild and uncomplicated, and rapidly reverses when the pills are discontinued. However, a small percentage of patients develop severe, even life-threatening hypertension and the hypertensive effects are felt long after the pills are discontinued. Cases of malignant hypertension and irreversible renal failure requiring maintenance hemodialysis, bilateral nephrectomy, and renal transplantation have occurred following administration of oral contraceptive pills. The mechanism by which oral pills induce hypertension in susceptible women is not known and needs further research. Before oral contraceptives are prescribed, physicians should take a careful history and perform a detailed physicial examination with special attention to the cardiovascular system. Multiple blood pressure measurements should be made and routine laboratory studies including urinalysis, blood urea and nitrogen and serum creatinine should be performed. It is preferable to start with a relatively low (50 mcg) estrogenic content preparation. Patients who develop hypertension (diastolic pressure, 90 mm Hg) on oral contraceptives should stop taking the pills immediately, and should be considered to have estrogen-induced hypertension. They should never again receive estrogen-containing oral pills, although they can try pills containing only progestogen. There is no contraindication to pregnancy in these patients, as most women who become hypertensive on oral pills go on to have normotensive pregnancies. Pregnancy in women who are susceptible to essential hypertension however should be treated as high risk.
You’re point being? The person who posted about hbp has seen HER doctor. She doesn’t need you to diagnose her. She posted about HER post COVID experience. Lots of things can cause hbp. You’re input is pointless. You just have an obsessive need to post on every thread. Even if you have no knowledge or experience with the issue
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
Any "I heard" or "I could be wrong, but..." (see post above!) or "my best friend's second cousin" anecdotes are ridiculous. If you have some FACTS to add to a discussion, great. But the rest it total BS.
Pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
PIP: Large prospective epidemiologic studies have shown that long-term use of oral contraceptives containing estrogen induce an increase in blood pressure and sharply increase the risk of hypertension. Susceptibility to the hypertensive effects of oral contraceptives is heightened where risk factors such as age, family history of hypertension, preexisting or occult renal disease, parity and obesity exist. Hypertension among pill users usually develops within the first 6 months of usage and occasionally is delayed for as long as 6 years. Anitihypertensive therapy is seldom needed as the hypertension that developes is generally mild and uncomplicated, and rapidly reverses when the pills are discontinued. However, a small percentage of patients develop severe, even life-threatening hypertension and the hypertensive effects are felt long after the pills are discontinued. Cases of malignant hypertension and irreversible renal failure requiring maintenance hemodialysis, bilateral nephrectomy, and renal transplantation have occurred following administration of oral contraceptive pills. The mechanism by which oral pills induce hypertension in susceptible women is not known and needs further research. Before oral contraceptives are prescribed, physicians should take a careful history and perform a detailed physicial examination with special attention to the cardiovascular system. Multiple blood pressure measurements should be made and routine laboratory studies including urinalysis, blood urea and nitrogen and serum creatinine should be performed. It is preferable to start with a relatively low (50 mcg) estrogenic content preparation. Patients who develop hypertension (diastolic pressure, 90 mm Hg) on oral contraceptives should stop taking the pills immediately, and should be considered to have estrogen-induced hypertension. They should never again receive estrogen-containing oral pills, although they can try pills containing only progestogen. There is no contraindication to pregnancy in these patients, as most women who become hypertensive on oral pills go on to have normotensive pregnancies. Pregnancy in women who are susceptible to essential hypertension however should be treated as high risk.
You’re point being? The person who posted about hbp has seen HER doctor. She doesn’t need you to diagnose her. She posted about HER post COVID experience. Lots of things can cause hbp. You’re input is pointless. You just have an obsessive need to post on every thread. Even if you have no knowledge or experience with the issue
If you actually read, I messaged the other poster about this and didn’t come on here. I did see other people who didn’t have Covid post so I didn’t think it was a big deal. I thought I could try and help.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
I wish so too as I have stories too but I didn’t post as it seemed only people who had Covid were allowed to post.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
Speaking of party favors.... lol
I just don’t why the floor was only open to people who had Covid as many have stories that could help too.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
I'm so sorry. That is horrifically sad.  I hope that in time they recover.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
Speaking of party favors.... lol
I just don’t why the floor was only open to people who had Covid as many have stories that could help too.
Because unless you have had firsthand experience being sick and recovering, which YOU have NOT, you can't really understand. The fact that you even brought up BCP's in a conversation about post COVID health issues shows you don't belong on this thread. Just stop. This topic does not concern you.
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JennP
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
I have not read every post but Hofstra, I am sorry that your post got derailed.
I did not have Covid but I know several people with post Covid issues and they are no joke.
I want to believe that people posted about other issues in good faith, but I don't believe it to be the case. At least not for most of these posters.
Let them start a thread that says "Covid is no big deal" and then they can all post on there.
I don't understand why people have to do things like that.
Again, I am sorry and I hope everyone suffering from side effects is able to feel better ASAP.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
Speaking of party favors.... lol
I just don’t why the floor was only open to people who had Covid as many have stories that could help too.
Because unless you have had firsthand experience being sick and recovering, which YOU have NOT, you can't really understand. The fact that you even brought up BCP's in a conversation about post COVID health issues shows you don't belong on this thread. Just stop. This topic does not concern you.
Umm what?????
“I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.”
Soooo why is this poster allowed to post?
Do you even see what you just did?
BCP and HBP is not made up and something that should be looked at by a doctor and while the HBP could be an after effect of Covid, it might not be.
I am sorry that I tried to help someone.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
Speaking of party favors.... lol
I just don’t why the floor was only open to people who had Covid as many have stories that could help too.
Because unless you have had firsthand experience being sick and recovering, which YOU have NOT, you can't really understand. The fact that you even brought up BCP's in a conversation about post COVID health issues shows you don't belong on this thread. Just stop. This topic does not concern you.
Umm what?????
“I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.”
Soooo why is this poster allowed to post?
Do you even see what you just did?
BCP and HBP is not made up and something that should be looked at by a doctor and while the HBP could be an after effect of Covid, it might not be.
I am sorry that I tried to help someone.
That poster had something relevant to share and CLEARLY has an understanding of the topic, something you're lacking. Nobody gives a $hit about BCP's as it has NO relevance to the topic at hand. You weren't trying to help, you just can't help posting on ANYTHING covid related even when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
At this point, I'm just going to go back to ignoring you as sure many others will especially on this thread.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by JennP
I have not read every post but Hofstra, I am sorry that your post got derailed.
I did not have Covid but I know several people with post Covid issues and they are no joke.
I want to believe that people posted about other issues in good faith, but I don't believe it to be the case. At least not for most of these posters.
Let them start a thread that says "Covid is no big deal" and then they can all post on there.
I don't understand why people have to do things like that.
Again, I am sorry and I hope everyone suffering from side effects is able to feel better ASAP.
Thanks so much, appreciate it. 
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
You said this better than I did. I totally agree. It's really not right.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
This board used to be to help others but god forbid if certain people do that.
I have never see so many spoiled brat, bullies in my life.
Other people post when they shouldn’t but not one word is told to them.
I guess “Families Helping Families” only applies when asking for suggestions for party favors or places to visit.
Speaking of party favors.... lol
I just don’t why the floor was only open to people who had Covid as many have stories that could help too.
Because unless you have had firsthand experience being sick and recovering, which YOU have NOT, you can't really understand. The fact that you even brought up BCP's in a conversation about post COVID health issues shows you don't belong on this thread. Just stop. This topic does not concern you.
Umm what?????
“I did not have COVID, but, as I have shared, I have a close, fairly young, relative who literally almost died. They are still recovering in a nursing home over 6 months after contracting COVID.
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.”
Soooo why is this poster allowed to post?
Do you even see what you just did?
BCP and HBP is not made up and something that should be looked at by a doctor and while the HBP could be an after effect of Covid, it might not be.
I am sorry that I tried to help someone.
That poster had something relevant to share and CLEARLY has an understanding of the topic, something you're lacking. Nobody gives a $hit about BCP's as it has NO relevance to the topic at hand. You weren't trying to help, you just can't help posting on ANYTHING covid related even when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
At this point, I'm just going to go back to ignoring you as sure many others will especially on this thread.
Ok so if I share my stories, then it will be ok?
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by JennP
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
You said this better than I did. I totally agree. It's really not right.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by JennP
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
You said this better than I did. I totally agree. It's really not right.
Totally agree but it seems only a certain few are allowed to share experiences, even they were told they were not to if they were not their own.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Hofstra I think it's time you popped a xanax. or maybe hit that treadmill for an invigorating walk.... or maybe just remove the stick from your ass?
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I really wish we could give people who have had this potentially traumatic experience the space to share those experiences and connect, instead of stirring up drama on every single thread related to COVID.
You said this better than I did. I totally agree. It's really not right.
Totally agree but it seems only a certain few are allowed to share experiences, even they were told they were not to if they were not their own.
Windy, you just DO NOT GET IT!!! You can't share because they don't like you. Even if you are trying to be helpful. That makes you seem condescending, sharing an experience you had with a poster that might have benefited from your shared experience.
Some of you are just so nasty! It's kind of funny at the same time though.
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by JennP
I did not have Covid but I know several people with post Covid issues and they are no joke.
Didn’t u used to say all the time that “anecdotal evidence” doesn’t count??
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by lululu
Hofstra I think it's time you popped a xanax. or maybe hit that treadmill for an invigorating walk.... or maybe just remove the stick from your ass?
Your pathetic attempts at derailing threads by trying to be the "edgy, smart a$$" are getting old and you just come off looking dumb.
But carry on if you must. You're always good for a laugh.
Those of us trying to have a legitimate discussion will just talk around your nonsense.
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chilltocam
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
The number of doctors and scientists we suddenly have on this board is amazing!
The number of a$$holes that keep going after complete strangers on this board is amazing...and cray cray.
Oh...now you've really gone and hurt my feelings....
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Everyone handles anxiety very differently. So not one person can say do x, y, z and you’ll be good. So please stop. I’m happy if exercise helps you, or if meditation helps another… it’s nice to offer suggestions but please don’t assume. Acupuncture helped me a lot at one point but it’s not for everyone.
I’ve have anxiety and panic disorder from the age of 19. It’s evolved over the years. Sometimes better, sometimes way worse. And each time I learn new ways to deal with it. Therapy helps some. But Xanax is the only answer on the days I can’t open my hands due to contracting muscles. Since Covid , it’s worse. Seems to be physical and mental combined. My BP would go up and I’d feel that and it would turn into panic. I’ve never had high BP in my life but post covid I did (as of last week it seems to be normal ago. Thank god)
I hope anyone dealing with Covid Long Haul symptoms feels better soon. Even if it means we just adjust to our new normal.
HBP can also be attributed to BCP’s. If you take them I would discuss this with your doctor as I had that issue and once off I never had it again.
This response shows that you are completely tone deaf to the conversation.
Furthermore, you haven't had COVID so I am not sure why you are even posting on here. Go away.
And yes, WW, why would you possibly suggest that anything but covid could have caused her HBP? Everyone knows covid is the cause of everyone’s problems, even if those problems also existed prior to covid.
Because maybe, just maybe, the poster saw their doctor and got actual medical advice and diagnosis from a trained medical professional? And this thread is about those who are post-COVID issues, which the poster indicated she is suffering from. So why would someone come on here and suggest that her Dr. is wrong and her issues could be from something else? Have you examined or treated the poster? I'm guessing that's a big fat no. How about trust the person who has the condition to know what their Dr. said and to handle it accordingly
Lululu is not telling her what to do, she’s simply making a suggestion, something that everyone does ALL the time. I don’t see nothing wrong with her suggestion about seeing a therapist. I can’t believe seeking professional help is such a taboo topic in our society, still! I even contemplated seeing someone to help me with the stress and anxiety I’ve been dealing with for a couple of years and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. I started meditating because someone suggested that, so why would it be wrong if someone suggested to see a therapist? It’s just another way to deal with the anxiety Hofstra’s experiencing and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Where did anyone say therapy is a bad thing? It's the attitude that if you posted on this thread that you have ongoing issues and they are related to COVID, you and your Dr. must be mistaken because "look at all these other things that could cause that problem." The people that posted about their ongoing post-COVID have seen MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS who have provided a diagnosis and likely a treatment plan. Why someone would come on here and try to contradict a medical diagnosis, just because it suits your narrative, is beyond ridiculous
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Re: Question for **ONLY** those who have had COVID
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by JennP
I did not have Covid but I know several people with post Covid issues and they are no joke.
Didn’t u used to say all the time that “anecdotal evidence” doesn’t count??
I always say that. And it's true.
I didn't say it to "share evidence"; it wasn't that kind of conversation. I shared it to empathize and make her feel better after YOU and several others derailed the thread. I would not have posted if you had left it alone and let her have the conversation with people WHO HAD POST COVID ISSUES without bringing up the vaccine.
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