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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
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As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
I sure did, what did I miss? Do you want me to attach more articles as they are out there.
Again you won’t believe that there could be, and are, serious problems that occur after the vaccine. Enough to have an emergency meeting.
You seem to be very hung up on the word, "emergency". They'll investigate any new side effects they see because it's important to rule out any potential safety issues.
There could always be a medication or vaccine deemed unsafe but thus far, the COVIID vaccine isn't one of them. Again, MILLIONS vaccinated with little to no reaction or issues.
Because you don't want to be vaccinated you very quickly latch on to ANY headline, no matter how insignificant, in order to justify your narrative that the vaccine is unsafe. The evidence to date, almost a year after clinical trials have started and millions have been vaccinated, doesn't support your narrative. The vaccine is effective and safe. That's what we know.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
I sure did, what did I miss? Do you want me to attach more articles as they are out there.
Again you won’t believe that there could be, and are, serious problems that occur after the vaccine. Enough to have an emergency meeting.
You seem to be very hung up on the word, "emergency". They'll investigate any new side effects they see because it's important to rule out any potential safety issues.
There could always be a medication or vaccine deemed unsafe but thus far, the COVIID vaccine isn't one of them. Again, MILLIONS vaccinated with little to no reaction or issues.
Because you don't want to be vaccinated you very quickly latch on to ANY headline, no matter how insignificant, in order to justify your narrative that the vaccine is unsafe. The evidence to date, almost a year after clinical trials have started and millions have been vaccinated, doesn't support your narrative. The vaccine is effective and safe. That's what we know.
I truly hope so for everyone’s sake. Effective and safe will be determined in years to come, not after a few weeks after you got it and feel fine.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
I sure did, what did I miss? Do you want me to attach more articles as they are out there.
Again you won’t believe that there could be, and are, serious problems that occur after the vaccine. Enough to have an emergency meeting.
You seem to be very hung up on the word, "emergency". They'll investigate any new side effects they see because it's important to rule out any potential safety issues.
There could always be a medication or vaccine deemed unsafe but thus far, the COVIID vaccine isn't one of them. Again, MILLIONS vaccinated with little to no reaction or issues.
Because you don't want to be vaccinated you very quickly latch on to ANY headline, no matter how insignificant, in order to justify your narrative that the vaccine is unsafe. The evidence to date, almost a year after clinical trials have started and millions have been vaccinated, doesn't support your narrative. The vaccine is effective and safe. That's what we know.
I truly hope so for everyone’s sake. Effective and safe will be determined in years to come, not after a few weeks after you got it and feel fine.
It's been almost a year since clinical trials have started - One year in and it has been proven to be effective against Covid. 95% effective to be almost exact.
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
I'll be the first to remind you and anyone else who spends an inordinate amount of time worrying about this vaccine, which is made up of components that we've been studying for decades, that it's A LOT less scary to get the vaccine IMO over what can happen to your body long term POST-COVID. Either is a risk, pick your "poison". I'm on the side of science as opposed to ever going it alone against COVID. Been there, done that. No thanks.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
Article posted on 6/11... emergency meeting scheduled 6/18... a WEEK later. Must be a REAL "emergency" to schedule an "emergency" meeting a week from the time announced. Doesn't seem real emergent to me.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
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mommy2devin
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
Article posted on 6/11... emergency meeting scheduled 6/18... a WEEK later. Must be a REAL "emergency" to schedule an "emergency" meeting a week from the time announced. Doesn't seem real emergent to me.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
Article posted on 6/11... emergency meeting scheduled 6/18... a WEEK later. Must be a REAL "emergency" to schedule an "emergency" meeting a week from the time announced. Doesn't seem real emergent to me.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
You must be lying or the only person who has had this issue so don’t worry since millions have been fine. 
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
As of now, there are very few people getting Covid and very few people who are dying or having dangerous long lasting effects.
Thanks to the vaccine.
Article posted on 6/11... emergency meeting scheduled 6/18... a WEEK later. Must be a REAL "emergency" to schedule an "emergency" meeting a week from the time announced. Doesn't seem real emergent to me.
You don't know that. I'm not going to debate vaccine's or not. I am actually pro vaccine and my whole family is vaccinated. But nothing about this virus is black and white. Nothing. Everyone's opinions have some shred of validity in them so if you don't like what someone is saying, then move on.
Yes, we do know that.
Can you find numbers of how many people who have come up positive recently have been vaccinated?
The News tends to boast about all the positives of the vaccine. We don't hear about the negatives because they don't want to scare people away from the vaccine, but I feel we should have all the information to make a comfortable decision about receiving it.
I heard (have't verified it) but a cruise ship of all vaccinated people had positive cases not sure if passengers were symptomatic or not.
What are "all the negatives"?
Millions upon millions of people globally have been vaccinated with little to no side effects aside from maybe a sore arm and slight flu like symptoms. MILLIONS.
The vaccine also has a 95% efficacy rate and has certainly curtailed our numbers effectively moving us towards ending this pandemic.
So please, do enlighten us about "all the negative effects" that you and a few others insist exist but have NO basis in fact. Please refrain from spouting off about the random handful or one person here or there that had a response extremely out of the norm because they aren't relevant compared to MILLIONS. Please shown us where MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people are having adverse, negative reactions to the vaccine so much so that we should all be avoiding it.
I know you can't simply because there is no data which supports the notion that the vaccine is unsafe and harmful.
Once again, this entire thread is about an emergency meeting about young men having heart problems from the vaccines. You don’t have an emergency meeting for 1 person out of millions. It obviously is a very serious thing they are not taking lightly.
You can hide your head if you want about any negativity with this vaccine and I really hope and pray in years to come bigger issues don’t stem from it.
Did you even read the article that you posted?
I definitely don't think you did. You seem to be nothing more than a "headline hero".
Article posted on 6/11... emergency meeting scheduled 6/18... a WEEK later. Must be a REAL "emergency" to schedule an "emergency" meeting a week from the time announced. Doesn't seem real emergent to me.
The vaccine is also called an emergency vaccine. They seem to like that word. I don’t know their schedule so I guess a week out is an emergency to them. I guess they really don’t care since it is “only” a few people.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
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Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
You're right. It's not only side effect, it's just the most likely.
Everything has risks but after experiencing COVID firsthand and seeing what it's done to many people I know LONG after they have "gotten better", I'm not taking my chances with it again without medical intervention. For me, COVID is the greater risk, not the vaccine.
But to each his own. I'm thankful to be vaccinated.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
Because it seems Hofstra is always right and the only biggest risk is having Covid and its, maybe, side effects after.
We don’t know for either so we can’t claim that the vaccine is going to protect or not cause issues either. You have to make sure you don’t miss your timing too with a third vaccine and they still truly haven’t figured out that yet, unless I am mistaken and they tell you when you need to come back after your second vaccine.
The choice should be yours knowing their are risks of getting the vaccine or not getting it.
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
You're right. It's not only side effect, it's just the most likely.
Everything has risks but after experiencing COVID firsthand and seeing what it's done to many people I know LONG after they have "gotten better", I'm not taking my chances with it again without medical intervention. For me, COVID is the greater risk, not the vaccine.
But to each his own. I'm thankful to be vaccinated.
Right, whereas I had an extremely mild case of covid and a horrible reaction to the vaccine. Not to mention there was a study released last week that inidcates that the vaccine doesn't offer any additional protection if you've already had covid. Seems like most people missed this news:
People who've had Covid don't need the vaccine
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
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Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
You're right. It's not only side effect, it's just the most likely.
Everything has risks but after experiencing COVID firsthand and seeing what it's done to many people I know LONG after they have "gotten better", I'm not taking my chances with it again without medical intervention. For me, COVID is the greater risk, not the vaccine.
But to each his own. I'm thankful to be vaccinated.
Right, whereas I had an extremely mild case of covid and a horrible reaction to the vaccine. Not to mention there was a study released last week that inidcates that the vaccine doesn't offer any additional protection if you've already had covid. Seems like most people missed this news:
People who've had Covid don't need the vaccine
I've read that those who have had COVID might not need the second shot as the first dose acts as the booster if you already have antibodies. We'll see. In the meantime, I feel much better being vaccinated.
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:48 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
Because it seems Hofstra is always right and the only biggest risk is having Covid and its, maybe, side effects after.
We don’t know for either so we can’t claim that the vaccine is going to protect or not cause issues either. You have to make sure you don’t miss your timing too with a third vaccine and they still truly haven’t figured out that yet, unless I am mistaken and they tell you when you need to come back after your second vaccine.
The choice should be yours knowing their are risks of getting the vaccine or not getting it.
You comments are riddled with immaturity, misplaced emotion which has NO place in science and complete ignorance.
But carry on, I always enjoy the show. 
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:50 AM |
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lululu
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
You're right. It's not only side effect, it's just the most likely.
Everything has risks but after experiencing COVID firsthand and seeing what it's done to many people I know LONG after they have "gotten better", I'm not taking my chances with it again without medical intervention. For me, COVID is the greater risk, not the vaccine.
But to each his own. I'm thankful to be vaccinated.
Right, whereas I had an extremely mild case of covid and a horrible reaction to the vaccine. Not to mention there was a study released last week that inidcates that the vaccine doesn't offer any additional protection if you've already had covid. Seems like most people missed this news:
People who've had Covid don't need the vaccine
I've read that those who have had COVID might not need the second shot as the first dose acts as the booster if you already have antibodies. We'll see. In the meantime, I feel much better being vaccinated.
Did you read the article? SCIENCE suggests that you don't need the vaccine AT ALL. Not the first shot, not the second. At least not yet. This study was just released last week.
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:51 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Short term health issues - So far there aren't any other than a little discomfort after getting vaccinated. As for long term issues, that remains to be seen buuuuuutttttttt.................
Again, I developed thrombocytopenia as a result of the J&J vaccine. While this is not a life threatening condition for me, it was not just a "little discomfort." Also, I never reported it as a side affect of the vaccine although it was, and I don't think that my doctor reported it to anyone either. I am sure there are many others like me who had side effects that are deemed a coincidence or just never reported.
Sorry you dealt with that but it's a reaction that is more rare, certainly not something that would warrant pulling the vaccine and deem it unsafe. You had an unfortunate response, it's to be expected that some will. This is true of any and all meds and other vaccines as well.
I'm currently on a thyroid med where a potential, albeit rare, side effect is drastically reduced WBC. But it's a risk I'm taking because the benefits of the med outweigh the small risk. This is true of most medical intervention including the COVID vaccine. No medicine is a 100% AND everything carries some level of risk.
Yes, I understand that there are risks but saying the ONLY risk is a little discomfort is misleading. There are risks, and we don't know if there are any long term risks because how could we?
You're right. It's not only side effect, it's just the most likely.
Everything has risks but after experiencing COVID firsthand and seeing what it's done to many people I know LONG after they have "gotten better", I'm not taking my chances with it again without medical intervention. For me, COVID is the greater risk, not the vaccine.
But to each his own. I'm thankful to be vaccinated.
Right, whereas I had an extremely mild case of covid and a horrible reaction to the vaccine. Not to mention there was a study released last week that inidcates that the vaccine doesn't offer any additional protection if you've already had covid. Seems like most people missed this news:
People who've had Covid don't need the vaccine
I've read that those who have had COVID might not need the second shot as the first dose acts as the booster if you already have antibodies. We'll see. In the meantime, I feel much better being vaccinated.
Did you read the article? SCIENCE suggests that you don't need the vaccine AT ALL. Not the first shot, not the second. At least not yet. This study was just released last week.
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:53 AM |
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:55 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
I did read it. It's a preliminary study with some good news.
But again, I KNEW going in for my vaccine having tested positive for antibodies that I likely would be naturally protected from reinfection. BUT, I didn't want to rely on just that so I was vaccinated anyway.
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| Posted 6/14/21 10:59 AM |
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
Makes no sense, right? Why get something that you are told you don’t need and don’t have years of back up to see how safe it is?
Guess the bragging rights are higher up in some people’s priorities than actually listening to the science and what they are telling you.
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:00 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
I think some people think the vaccine will give them even MORE protection than their natural antibodies- like it's cumulative.
Like putting on SPF 15 over your SPF 30 and expecting it to be SPF 45
But I don't think that's the case based on the new findings.
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:09 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by lululu
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Did you read the article? SCIENCE suggests that you don't need the vaccine AT ALL. Not the first shot, not the second. At least not yet. This study was just released last week.
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Scientists are still exploring whether there are benefits to vaccinating people who’ve already had the infection. They’re also examining how natural immunity compares to immunity from vaccination.
Gandhi said that she’s often asked whether previously ill people should get vaccinated. She said that the truth is, there isn’t enough data, and we don’t yet know how long natural immunity lasts.
Her solution: Just get the first dose. Even if it’s unnecessary, that single dose can act as an immune booster.
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They are still suggesting to get the vaccine, and they don't know if natural immunity is as good as the vaccine, or how long it lasts.
So they aren't saying you don't need it AT ALL. They are saying they are looking into that possibility.
Getting the virus is not an good solution, though. We have plenty of documented cases of known long-term side effects of the virus. Including erectile disfunction. Go tell the guys who have ED from the virus, "Hey, at least you survived"....
If you happened to catch covid, and have anti-bodies, that's great. Follow the recommendations and at least get the one shot.
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:10 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
Makes no sense, right? Why get something that you are told you don’t need and don’t have years of back up to see how safe it is?
Guess the bragging rights are higher up in some people’s priorities than actually listening to the science and what they are telling you.
First, the only ones "bragging" are the people who come onto a forum day after day and ad nauseum feel the need to tell everyone OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN that they won't get the vaccine. People like YOU VB who when the thread drops low enough will bump it or start a new one just to BRAG AGAIN about how you won't get the vaccine because in all of your infinite ignorance you think you know better than everyone. Hysterical.
Secondly, lululu isn't on "your side". She's vaccinated, remember? Guess she must trust the science and the efficacy of the vaccine or she wouldn't have gotten herself vaccinated.
Your comments. 
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:15 AM |
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Like I said, I feel better being vaccinated. We don't know for sure our own antibodies are enough. If they are, GREAT! But in the meantime, I am thrilled to be vaccinated.
So I will take that as a no, you didn't bother to read the article. Glad it makes you feel better, but it really didn't help you at all.
I think some people think the vaccine will give them even MORE protection than their natural antibodies- like it's cumulative.
Like putting on SPF 15 over your SPF 30 and expecting it to be SPF 45
But I don't think that's the case based on the new findings.
It's been shown that if you have had COVID the first shot of Moderna or Pfizer will in fact amp up your natural antibodies and give you almost full protection which is why it's been suggested that post-COVID people might only need one of the two shots compared to those who have never had COVID.
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:16 AM |
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Re: Rare but we need to have an emergency meeting
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by lululu
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Did you read the article? SCIENCE suggests that you don't need the vaccine AT ALL. Not the first shot, not the second. At least not yet. This study was just released last week.
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Scientists are still exploring whether there are benefits to vaccinating people who’ve already had the infection. They’re also examining how natural immunity compares to immunity from vaccination.
Gandhi said that she’s often asked whether previously ill people should get vaccinated. She said that the truth is, there isn’t enough data, and we don’t yet know how long natural immunity lasts.
Her solution: Just get the first dose. Even if it’s unnecessary, that single dose can act as an immune booster.
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They are still suggesting to get the vaccine, and they don't know if natural immunity is as good as the vaccine, or how long it lasts.
So they aren't saying you don't need it AT ALL. They are saying they are looking into that possibility.
Getting the virus is not an good solution, though. We have plenty of documented cases of known long-term side effects of the virus. Including erectile disfunction. Go tell the guys who have ED from the virus, "Hey, at least you survived"....
If you happened to catch covid, and have anti-bodies, that's great. Follow the recommendations and at least get the one shot.
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| Posted 6/14/21 11:17 AM |
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