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csorisi
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Good for your mom!!!!!!
I hope she can help people she is such a great person!!!!
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Posted by nov04libride
I don't think it is localized in these towns in particular. I know they call Smithtown Sniff-town now because of the crack problems,
I grew up in Smithtown and moved back to Smithtown to buy my own house. I've never once heard it called "Sniff-town" or known anyone that had a crack problem. It's amazing to me how these "nicknames" get started.
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| Posted 6/23/08 7:48 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
I think this is great for your mom to do..especially with this story coming to light. Although a tragedy has occured, it's smart of your mother to use the timing to address these issues. Both parents and other kids will be more receptive right now in light of what has happened.
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:47 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
 to your mom for stepping up and approaching the problem head on.
Have you ever read Beautiful Boy by David Sheff? I think it's a book every parent should read (drug addict child or not). His son was addicted to meth and heroin and it was a truly eye opening story about the lengths he went to for his son as well as what to look for and how to treat and approach the serious problem... because it never goes away, its a life-long illness just like alcoholism... only 10x worse.
Good luck to your mom!
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:50 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
I live in Smithtown and graduated in 2003.. let me tell you.. there are some serious drug problems around here.. in high school , after high school, adults, teenagers
It's seriously turning into an epidemic..
I don't really know about crack, but I know there is a real heroine problem around here.. not to mention cocaine and prescription drugs
I see more and more people I know and have known in and out of rehab and it breaks my heart.
My parents both work in Brentwood schools and I think they get judged as schools that are so bad with drugs,gangs and what not.. I honestly think Smithtown is much worse.. these kids have the money to buy stuff..
It's really terrible.. people need to be educated on what can and will happen if you start taking these drugs
What your mom's doing is great
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| Posted 6/23/08 9:17 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Posted by CoopersMom01
to your mom for stepping up and approaching the problem head on.
Have you ever read Beautiful Boy by David Sheff? I think it's a book every parent should read (drug addict child or not). His son was addicted to meth and heroin and it was a truly eye opening story about the lengths he went to for his son as well as what to look for and how to treat and approach the serious problem... because it never goes away, its a life-long illness just like alcoholism... only 10x worse.
Good luck to your mom!
Yes she just happened to read that book about a week before my brother came clean about anything.
I am so scared about the battle my brother has for the rest of his life. He is avoiding the wake and everything because he knows it will be bad for him. I agree. I just hope he gets through this. He is trying to "be there" for all his friends. I could really care less if he is there for them. But we will see.
My mom talked to the police officers twice tonight because they thought she had info about that girl sicne she called to talk to them about preventing future problems and whatnot. But, since my brother is sober now, she didn't know anything. Thank god my brother wasn't there. They weren't really the crowd he used to hang out with anyway, just the girl was. The police officers are having a hard time getting anyone to talk. It is just so freaking sad. This girl is dead and all anyone can think about it protecting themselves.
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| Posted 6/23/08 9:30 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Quoted from earlier post on this thread:
"And do you know what is frustrating for administration? All of this is good in theory, but what percentage of parents of teens attend PTA meetings? And in general, the parents who are the ones away for weekends at a time where the teens are throwing the parties will not be at these PTA meetings. How do you reach out to parents, many of whom do not go to these optional parent nights? "
I wasn't going to respond to this. I didn't for a while. But, it has been festering. It is the attitude that the kids who are addicted to drugs are the ones whose parents aren't involved and neglect thier children somehow. My brother was an eagle scout for pete's sake. My mother annoyed the bejesus out of the prinicpal to get my brother the help he needed with his grades. She was there for functions. Please, I was a good kid and when she found out I was going to a keg party, she called the school and told the principal who called the parents. She hosted sober parties for my friends. My brother was her baby and they were and still are SOOO close. The point of this is that is not the kids in all black listening to scary music who are doing this drug. It is everyone. Geez half of the kids who you think would do it aren't and vice versa. I think it needs to be stressed that the "good kids" are doing it too. I am tired of the attitude that kids who find drugs are from trashy families. I don't know if that is what you meant to say. If it isn't, sorry if I came off nasty. But they way I interpreted it really struck a nerve.
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| Posted 6/23/08 9:54 PM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
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Quoted from earlier post on this thread:
"And do you know what is frustrating for administration? All of this is good in theory, but what percentage of parents of teens attend PTA meetings? And in general, the parents who are the ones away for weekends at a time where the teens are throwing the parties will not be at these PTA meetings. How do you reach out to parents, many of whom do not go to these optional parent nights? "
I wasn't going to respond to this. I didn't for a while. But, it has been festering. It is the attitude that the kids who are addicted to drugs are the ones whose parents aren't involved and neglect thier children somehow. My brother was an eagle scout for pete's sake. My mother annoyed the bejesus out of the prinicpal to get my brother the help he needed with his grades. She was there for functions. Please, I was a good kid and when she found out I was going to a keg party, she called the school and told the principal who called the parents. She hosted sober parties for my friends. My brother was her baby and they were and still are SOOO close. The point of this is that is not the kids in all black listening to scary music who are doing this drug. It is everyone. Geez half of the kids who you think would do it aren't and vice versa. I think it needs to be stressed that the "good kids" are doing it too. I am tired of the attitude that kids who find drugs are from trashy families. I don't know if that is what you meant to say. If it isn't, sorry if I came off nasty. But they way I interpreted it really struck a nerve.
I've taught in Seaford for over 10 years.
I've worked with the principal, whom your mom spoke to, for 6 years.
Trust me, administration is FED UP with this, the teachers are FED UP with this.
I've gone to three funerals for students concerning this issue alone, not including for other reasons
Talking to the parents of the kids is really like talking to a brick wall.
We have drug education nights, we have pre-prom contracts, we have police officers coming into the speak with them, we have chaplains/doctors/first responders/recovering addicts... you name the program we do it. We do so much of it, we take so much time for it we are taking away curriculum time and yes, now one can say it does affect assemessments.
The partying kids are conveniently *absent* on the days of such assemblies, or a security officer/teacher/administrator chases after them as they leave the building, or they attend the assembly where they sleep, talk to their friend or are finally, removed by myself or one of my colleagues to sit with administration.
Forget about the parents... just forget about trying to reach them AT ALL. I've used every detective skill in my aresenal (including some unorthodox ones) to try to get a working/real phone number, whether cell, home or yes, I have the @#$% to call these parents at work... If I get their boss I'll say who I am and the reason why I'm calling... I don't care if I "embarass" them... too bad, maybe some day they will thank me for saving their kid academically, socially or otherwise. These parents are so in DENIAL... they do not show up for open house, they do not show up for parent conferences, they do not acknowledge the school districts certified mail 
As far as the comment that the school administriators don't want to admit there is a problem in their community, trust me, if nothing else, our principal tells it like it is... so much so, and so blatantly, that he often gets heat for it. I've known him personally for years. I don't always agree with him, we've had our differences but on this issues, I will say, trust me, he is doing everything legally he can do in his power. Several administrators before him did not call the cops on several occassions when they should have. He has no problem calling the cops if he feels it is justified... he doesn't care what passersby think if they see cop cars in the parking lot of the high school... that does not sway his decision.
Like many high schools across LI, adminstration is doing all it can do. It's impossible to get through to these parents, the kids know this and they play it to their advantage.
What a tragedy 
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OMG I went to Hunter college and they passed around heroine like it was a joint. So many people wound up in rehab it was ridiculous... And this was 15 years ago!!! Wealthy, "smart" kids.....
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Posted by sfp0701
"I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER DONE HEROINE!!! "
EXACTLY!!!
I grew up in Queens and feel the same way. I'm sure people were doing drugs, just not the people I was friends with. I never saw any drugs and no one talked about it. The only drugs I saw in college was pot!
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| Posted 6/24/08 9:40 AM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Posted by sfp0701
Quoted from earlier post on this thread:
"And do you know what is frustrating for administration? All of this is good in theory, but what percentage of parents of teens attend PTA meetings? And in general, the parents who are the ones away for weekends at a time where the teens are throwing the parties will not be at these PTA meetings. How do you reach out to parents, many of whom do not go to these optional parent nights? "
I wasn't going to respond to this. I didn't for a while. But, it has been festering. It is the attitude that the kids who are addicted to drugs are the ones whose parents aren't involved and neglect thier children somehow. My brother was an eagle scout for pete's sake. My mother annoyed the bejesus out of the prinicpal to get my brother the help he needed with his grades. She was there for functions. Please, I was a good kid and when she found out I was going to a keg party, she called the school and told the principal who called the parents. She hosted sober parties for my friends. My brother was her baby and they were and still are SOOO close. The point of this is that is not the kids in all black listening to scary music who are doing this drug. It is everyone. Geez half of the kids who you think would do it aren't and vice versa. I think it needs to be stressed that the "good kids" are doing it too. I am tired of the attitude that kids who find drugs are from trashy families. I don't know if that is what you meant to say. If it isn't, sorry if I came off nasty. But they way I interpreted it really struck a nerve.
IMO- the PP was saying that, these days, the majority of parents are not so involved in their children's school lives.
Your mom, obviously, is in the minority- which is great. But, your brother still got involved in some heavy stuff.
I'm curious to know if his friends parents were as involved as your mom. Sometimes, no matter how great and involved our parents are- our Friends are the one's who influence us and our decisions.
I think your mom is doing a great thing...good luck to her!
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| Posted 6/24/08 10:51 AM |
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Re: So, my Mom wants to take action! (LONG)
Posted by kahlua716
Posted by sfp0701
Quoted from earlier post on this thread:
"And do you know what is frustrating for administration? All of this is good in theory, but what percentage of parents of teens attend PTA meetings? And in general, the parents who are the ones away for weekends at a time where the teens are throwing the parties will not be at these PTA meetings. How do you reach out to parents, many of whom do not go to these optional parent nights? "
I wasn't going to respond to this. I didn't for a while. But, it has been festering. It is the attitude that the kids who are addicted to drugs are the ones whose parents aren't involved and neglect thier children somehow. My brother was an eagle scout for pete's sake. My mother annoyed the bejesus out of the prinicpal to get my brother the help he needed with his grades. She was there for functions. Please, I was a good kid and when she found out I was going to a keg party, she called the school and told the principal who called the parents. She hosted sober parties for my friends. My brother was her baby and they were and still are SOOO close. The point of this is that is not the kids in all black listening to scary music who are doing this drug. It is everyone. Geez half of the kids who you think would do it aren't and vice versa. I think it needs to be stressed that the "good kids" are doing it too. I am tired of the attitude that kids who find drugs are from trashy families. I don't know if that is what you meant to say. If it isn't, sorry if I came off nasty. But they way I interpreted it really struck a nerve.
IMO- the PP was saying that, these days, the majority of parents are not so involved in their children's school lives.
Your mom, obviously, is in the minority- which is great. But, your brother still got involved in some heavy stuff.
I'm curious to know if his friends parents were as involved as your mom. Sometimes, no matter how great and involved our parents are- our Friends are the one's who influence us and our decisions.
I think your mom is doing a great thing...good luck to her!
No I doubt they were. One of friends spent some time in jail for dealing.. and he is dealing again. All of his friends go out of thier way to hide it from this kids mom "because she is so nice and it would break her heart"  I don't know. I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I am just very very frustrated.
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