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JenniferEver
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Some thoughts on a woman president

I think it's going to be very difficult.

if a woman is too warm, maternal and kind, she's goin to be viewed as too weak to run a nation

and if a woman is colder, tougher, etc, then she's viewed as a b*tch. (like Hilary)

Posted 12/5/06 12:44 PM
 
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by JenniferEver

I think it's going to be very difficult.

if a woman is too warm, maternal and kind, she's goin to be viewed as too weak to run a nation

and if a woman is colder, tougher, etc, then she's viewed as a b*tch. (like Hilary)



yep - no deal

Posted 12/5/06 12:44 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by JenniferEver

I think it's going to be very difficult.

if a woman is too warm, maternal and kind, she's goin to be viewed as too weak to run a nation

and if a woman is colder, tougher, etc, then she's viewed as a b*tch. (like Hilary)



it's a catch 22 that i think women will never be able to escape and it's such a shame.

Posted 12/5/06 12:45 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

What I dont understand is why in this country there is so much resistance to a female leader....there are many other countries that have had female leaders and they haven't fallen apart!! Chat Icon

The time is now to change the way the voters think....and with that being said....I would vote for any female BUT Hillary!! Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 12:46 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

I don't understand why gender is equated to competency in this country. Although I know that because it is new for us that it will be a focus, but I just don't understand why because a persona has a vagina & breasts that it automatically makes them a lesser candidate.

Sorry but the track record of the penises in office lately begs me to differ...they have done PLENTY to show their incompetence.

As for Hilary, will she win...probably not. However, she is an incredibly accomplished and educated woman, and unlike most politicians she meets with her constituents on a regular basis and does indeed bring their views to the Capitol. That is what local government is supposed to do. Not to say that mistakes were not made in her past, but as of present she is a pretty effective local representative. It is a shame that her whole life she will be only the wife of a former president in the eyes of many.

Posted 12/5/06 12:56 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by MsMBV

I don't understand why gender is equated to competency in this country. Although I know that because it is new for us that it will be a focus, but I just don't understand why because a persona has a vagina & breasts that it automatically makes them a lesser candidate.

Sorry but the track record of the penises in office lately begs me to differ...they have done PLENTY to show their incompetence.

As for Hilary, will she win...probably not. However, she is an incredibly accomplished and educated woman, and unlike most politicians she meets with her constituents on a regular basis and does indeed bring their views to the Capitol. That is what local government is supposed to do. Not to say that mistakes were not made in her past, but as of present she is a pretty effective local representative. It is a shame that her whole life she will be only the wife of a former president in the eyes of many.




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Posted 12/5/06 12:58 PM
 

Eva Luna
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by MsMBV

I don't understand why gender is equated to competency in this country. Although I know that because it is new for us that it will be a focus, but I just don't understand why because a persona has a vagina & breasts that it automatically makes them a lesser candidate.

Sorry but the track record of the penises in office lately begs me to differ...they have done PLENTY to show their incompetence.

As for Hillary, will she win...probably not. However, she is an incredibly accomplished and educated woman, and unlike most politicians she meets with her constituents on a regular basis and does indeed bring their views to the Capitol. That is what local government is supposed to do. Not to say that mistakes were not made in her past, but as of present she is a pretty effective local representative. It is a shame that her whole life she will be only the wife of a former president in the eyes of many.




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As someone who read Living History, her life is much more than the whole PenisGate thing. She's a lot more than just "Mrs. Bill Clinton". And I think she's said that...and hurt people's feeling in the process ("I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette.") Chat Icon

She's inspiring...intelligent...and even though I don't think she'll win, her gender shouldn't be the reason why. I don't see why a woman President is seen by many as "impossible".

Third world countries have elected women, and successfully, aren't we a "superpower"? Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:04 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

I seriously feel she is quite capable--I am sure she ran the country at times when her DH was president--and occupied with other things! Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:08 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

I can't believe that women are allowed to vote in America let alone run for president!!!

Its a travesty!!

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Posted 12/5/06 1:15 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

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I can't believe that women are allowed to vote in America let alone run for president!!!

Its a travesty!!

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Actually what they should do is test women to make sure they're not pregnant or menstruating when they vote, otherwise they may be too emotional. Then again there's also PMS and hormonal changes with ovulation, so the verdict is, WOMEN SHOULD NOT VOTE Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:20 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by racheeeee

I can't believe that women are allowed to vote in America let alone run for president!!!

Its a travesty!!

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Actually what they should do is test women to make sure they're not pregnant or menstruating when they vote, otherwise they may be too emotional. Then again there's also PMS and hormonal changes with ovulation, so the verdict is, WOMEN SHOULD NOT VOTE Chat Icon

OR - heaven forbid they are going through - THE CHANGEChat Icon

<cue dramatic music>

Posted 12/5/06 1:21 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by MsMBV

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by racheeeee

I can't believe that women are allowed to vote in America let alone run for president!!!

Its a travesty!!

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Actually what they should do is test women to make sure they're not pregnant or menstruating when they vote, otherwise they may be too emotional. Then again there's also PMS and hormonal changes with ovulation, so the verdict is, WOMEN SHOULD NOT VOTE Chat Icon

OR - heaven forbid they are going through - THE CHANGEChat Icon

<cue dramatic music>



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Posted 12/5/06 1:23 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

I think it can be done and the first step is to have women support each other. There is no reason that woman could not do the job - and I believe that the right candidate can not only do it...but do it well. Regardless of how people may feel about Hillary - I think all women should be proud that she took this step. It's a lonely path to walk but if she succeeds..image what that means for us and our daughters. It would give me great pride to tell my daughter that she can be anything she wants...including president. Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:23 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by Ang-Rich

I think it can be done and the first step is to have women support each other. There is no reason that woman could not do the job - and I believe that the right candidate can not only do it...but do it well. Regardless of how people may feel about Hillary - I think all women should be proud that she took this step. It's a lonely path to walk but if she succeeds..image what that means for us and our daughters. It would give me great pride to tell my daughter that she can be anything she wants...including president. Chat Icon



Well said!!!Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:24 PM
 

MsMBV
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by Ang-Rich

I think it can be done and the first step is to have women support each other. There is no reason that woman could not do the job - and I believe that the right candidate can not only do it...but do it well. Regardless of how people may feel about Hillary - I think all women should be proud that she took this step. It's a lonely path to walk but if she succeeds..image what that means for us and our daughters. It would give me great pride to tell my daughter that she can be anything she wants...including president. Chat Icon

Chat Icon Well put.

Posted 12/5/06 1:24 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

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Posted by Ang-Rich

I think it can be done and the first step is to have women support each other. There is no reason that woman could not do the job - and I believe that the right candidate can not only do it...but do it well. Regardless of how people may feel about Hillary - I think all women should be proud that she took this step. It's a lonely path to walk but if she succeeds..image what that means for us and our daughters. It would give me great pride to tell my daughter that she can be anything she wants...including president. Chat Icon



Well said!!!Chat Icon Chat Icon



yes!

Posted 12/5/06 1:25 PM
 

Eva Luna
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by Ang-Rich

It would give me great pride to tell my daughter that she can be anything she wants...including president. Chat Icon



Yes...damn it!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:25 PM
 

QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

ok i'm about to weigh in

hold on

Posted 12/5/06 1:27 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

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ok i'm about to weigh in

hold on



I'm holding my breath

Posted 12/5/06 1:28 PM
 

MsMBV
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

ok i'm about to weigh in

hold on

Do I have to duck?Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/06 1:30 PM
 

QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

here's how i see it

if history proves one thing, it's that anything can happen

in the 1950's there were segregated water fountains for caucasians and African Americans

An African American woman was arrested for not going giving up her seat to a Caucasian male.

Fifty years later, we've come a long way. But there's still a long way to go.

My point is that stereotypes can and do change, but not overnight. The perception of women is deep within our society, passed down from generation to generation. The changes will evolve over time, but I just don't feel we are there yet. It's going to take quite some time.

Posted 12/5/06 1:42 PM
 

Eva Luna
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by CaptainCharisma424
The perception of women is deep within our society, passed down from generation to generation. The changes will evolve over time, but I just don't feel we are there yet. It's going to take quite some time.



My only question is, the perception of women as what? You say "the perception of women is..." but I'm not sure what exactly that perception is. Chat Icon

I guess because I am a woman, raised by a single woman, I was always told that anything a boy could do, could be done by me. I never had any limitations growing up. Was never told "you can be almost anything"...it was always "you can be whatever you want".

I'm not understanding the perception thing that you speak of.

Posted 12/5/06 1:47 PM
 

QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

Posted by Eva Luna

Posted by CaptainCharisma424
The perception of women is deep within our society, passed down from generation to generation. The changes will evolve over time, but I just don't feel we are there yet. It's going to take quite some time.



My only question is, the perception of women as what? You say "the perception of women is..." but I'm not sure what exactly that perception is. Chat Icon

I guess because I am a woman, raised by a single woman, I was always told that anything a boy could do, could be done by me. I never had any limitations growing up. Was never told "you can be almost anything"...it was always "you can be whatever you want".

I'm not understanding the perception thing that you speak of.



you're right, i should have been clearer on that

across the US there are still many traditional families where the men work and the women are home barefoot and pregnant with the kids. That perception of the man as the breadwinner is deeprooted across America.

Women are seen as weak and emotional and not rational.

Case in point - -the salary issue - men are always paid more

You'll see alot of women VP's in corp America, but very few CEOs

it's gonna take a lot to break the stereotype

Posted 12/5/06 1:49 PM
 

Eva Luna
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Thanks for clarifying.

Ah yes, there's a huge factor that the religious groups play. They have a lot of power and lobbyers, and they believe in "family values" where the woman stays home. Anything else is obscene to them. I hope that with all the recent scandals, they'll take a breather and sit it out.

The fact that women are paid less than men for the same job is appaling, but true.

Society is chauvanistic. Sadly. I wish it changes soon. I too think that I'll see a woman President in my lifetime.

I'd like to hope for that.

Posted 12/5/06 1:53 PM
 

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Re: Some thoughts on a woman president

anything is possible

Posted 12/5/06 1:55 PM
 
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