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HoneyBadger
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by stephanief
Posted by leighla
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Posted by leighla
Not sure if I'm phrasing this right, but here it goes:
If someone dies young or tragically, do you think it automatically changes people's perceptions of them?
I've been a little surprised by how positive some people are about her in the news and here on LIF when a week ago the same outlets/people would be trashing her.
Do you think it's a perception change or guilt or what? 
I think nobody should speak ill of the dead...that is wrong IMHO.
Agreed, but there is a difference between speaking ill and suddenly praising her as if she lived this glorious life. KWIM??
yes, I definitely know what you mean. I think that she had a troubled life and was by no means a saint....but I will not sit here and call her a gold digger or a whore....that is wrong
While I agree it's sad that she had this tragic, short life. I think the OP's point was that in her death, now the very same people/media outlets who did call her a gold digger/ whore are now speaking somewhat highly of her, like they never trashed her.
To answer the OP's original question, yes. I think when someone dies, it changes people's perceptions of them. I don't know if it's out of guilt or something else, but I do think people's perceptions change.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
For me, it is strange to see the stories because when they flashed the years 1967-2007, I realized that she is the same age as me. I thought about what it would be like to know that one of my friends or someone I knew in school had died and it was very strange.
I was never a fan, but I always thought of her as sort of a caricature, not a real person. Seeing all the coverage of her death made her seem more human to me, I guess.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by Jennie0898
While I agree it's sad that she had this tragic, short life. I think the OP's point was that in her death, now the very same people/media outlets who did call her a gold digger/ whore are now speaking somewhat highly of her, like they never trashed her.
Exactly!!
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by leighla
Posted by Jennie0898
While I agree it's sad that she had this tragic, short life. I think the OP's point was that in her death, now the very same people/media outlets who did call her a gold digger/ whore are now speaking somewhat highly of her, like they never trashed her.
Exactly!!
but how do you expect them to speak of her now? continue to trash her?
at least they're trying to show some level of compassion...
(and i don't mean the literal 'you' - i mean people in general)
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leighla
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by leighla
Posted by Jennie0898
While I agree it's sad that she had this tragic, short life. I think the OP's point was that in her death, now the very same people/media outlets who did call her a gold digger/ whore are now speaking somewhat highly of her, like they never trashed her.
Exactly!!
but how do you expect them to speak of her now? continue to trash her?
at least they're trying to show some level of compassion...
(and i don't mean the literal 'you' - i mean people in general)
I don't really know how to explain it.
I certainly don't want them to trash her, but E! News last night was a dedication to her life and played out like she was Princess Di or something.
It just seems kind of hypocritical.
She died, it's tragic. Leave it at that and don't start singing praises about someone who last week you reported on questioning her ability to raise a child.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
One word........RATINGS
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MrsERod
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by leighla
I don't really know how to explain it.
I certainly don't want them to trash her, but E! News last night was a dedication to her life and played out like she was Princess Di or something.
It just seems kind of hypocritical.
She died, it's tragic. Leave it at that and don't start singing praises about someone who last week you reported on questioning her ability to raise a child.
hmmm...i guess when you look at it that way, it does seem a little bizarre. then again, we're talking about the media here. anything for ratings, right?
eta:  curliegrl used alot less words than i did! 
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
I think there is a big difference between sorrow and pity. Her life was full of pitiful choices and possibly, her death. She did not live a stellar life, nor was she evil. THAT is a BIG difference between a person like her and the horrible dictators listed in previous posts. She deserves the right to rest in peace and whoever the child is placed with, if they are smart, will allow this child to grow up with a positive view of her mother.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
i think it's all in good fun to bash people/celebrities when they mess up, or judge them on their lifestyles- because they seem almost superhuman or untouchable
but when one of them dies, we're reminded that they're just human. out of compassion and humanity we quit the bashing and appreciate them as "real" people
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leighla
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by leighla
I don't really know how to explain it.
I certainly don't want them to trash her, but E! News last night was a dedication to her life and played out like she was Princess Di or something.
It just seems kind of hypocritical.
She died, it's tragic. Leave it at that and don't start singing praises about someone who last week you reported on questioning her ability to raise a child.
hmmm...i guess when you look at it that way, it does seem a little bizarre. then again, we're talking about the media here. anything for ratings, right?
eta: curliegrl used alot less words than i did!
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by leighla
Not sure if I'm phrasing this right, but here it goes:
If someone dies young or tragically, do you think it automatically changes people's perceptions of them?
I've been a little surprised by how positive some people are about her in the news and here on LIF when a week ago the same outlets/people would be trashing her.
Do you think it's a perception change or guilt or what?
I agree. I think the whole situation is just very sad, especially because there's a baby involved. However, IMO, Anna Nicole has never been shown in as positive a light as she has been in the past 24 hours.
I'm not judging what people are or are not saying, it's just something I've noticed.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Yeah..we were all talking about it today at work and my 75 yr old coworker was like.. "she's was a s1ut, what's the big deal?!"
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curliegirl
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by LiPo
Yeah..we were all talking about it today at work and my 75 yr old coworker was like.. "she's was a s1ut, what's the big deal?!"
That's funny because who did she sleep around with? it was public knowledge that she led a very private, sheltered life.
It all goes back to the fact that she married the billionaire, but jeez, she married him and it made him happy......
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by curliegirl
Posted by LiPo
Yeah..we were all talking about it today at work and my 75 yr old coworker was like.. "she's was a s1ut, what's the big deal?!"
That's funny because who did she sleep around with? it was public knowledge that she led a very private, sheltered life.
It all goes back to the fact that she married the billionaire, but jeez, she married him and it made him happy......
I agree. That guy knew exactly what he was doing, what he was getting, and who he was leaving his money to.
I don't fault her for marrying a man that takes care of her and gave her everything her heart desired.
eta. I fault her for marrying the creepy lawyer because he skeeves me out. Unless she has an airtight will leaving money to her daughter, he's getting a huge portion if the case settles in her favor.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by BNL2005
I see what you are saying. I think it's tragic when anyone dies young. as far as anna nicole goes, i think her whole life was a tragedy, so i think her dying as young as she was completes the circle, so to speak.
I agree
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by leighla
Posted by Jennie0898
While I agree it's sad that she had this tragic, short life. I think the OP's point was that in her death, now the very same people/media outlets who did call her a gold digger/ whore are now speaking somewhat highly of her, like they never trashed her.
Exactly!!
but how do you expect them to speak of her now? continue to trash her?
at least they're trying to show some level of compassion...
(and i don't mean the literal 'you' - i mean people in general)
I understand showing some compassion, but I think it is a bit overboard. They're making her out to be like Mother Teresa. She wasn't a horrible person (misguided, maybe) but I just find it somewhat hypocritical.
I agree, I think it's all for ratings. The media is playing on people's emotions. Let's face it, it's sad when someone who was relatively harmless dies.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by Goldi0218
I think there is a big difference between sorrow and pity. Her life was full of pitiful choices and possibly, her death. She did not live a stellar life, nor was she evil. THAT is a BIG difference between a person like her and the horrible dictators listed in previous posts. She deserves the right to rest in peace and whoever the child is placed with, if they are smart, will allow this child to grow up with a positive view of her mother.
I totally agree.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
I think that people start feeling guilty when a tragedy like this occurs to someone who they have spoken about negatively, so they start concentrating on the positive things.
I'll be honest..I was never an Anna Nicole fan. I think that it's tragic that she lead such a troubled life, and that her early death was inevitable. The real tragedy is for her daughter. I'm not going to start singing Anna Nicole's praises, b/c I never did before.
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
She had a really messed up life, there is no hiding that, but when someone dies, I'd rather find positive things to reflect on than smash them and pinpoint all their faults in life. Nobody is or ever will be perfect!!
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by curliegirl
I think anyone's death brings out memories and good feelings of that person......mostly.
I honestly don't think that she was a BAD person, maybe just a little misguided and confused.
All in all she was a pretty harmless, quirky girl who tried to live HER life the best way she knew how.
What I really love is how a lot of people try to pass judgement like they knew her. We don't know her, so who are we to say what is right and what is wrong?
She died, it's sad, that's it.
Wow you said it! I agree with you!
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Re: Spinoff of all these Anna Nicole Threads...
Posted by curliegirl
I think anyone's death brings out memories and good feelings of that person......mostly.
I honestly don't think that she was a BAD person, maybe just a little misguided and confused.
All in all she was a pretty harmless, quirky girl who tried to live HER life the best way she knew how.
What I really love is how a lot of people try to pass judgement like they knew her. We don't know her, so who are we to say what is right and what is wrong?
She died, it's sad, that's it.
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