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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by MrsFlatbread
I understand everyone has their own personal opinion on things, but I hate posts like these that try to make others feel bad about their choices in life and make them justify their reasons for things. Different strokes for different folks!!!
I think though, that on this particular subject as it relates to gas/oil consumption which is directly related to environmental issues and climate change...YES, you should be asked to explain why you feel you "NEED" something that has the potential to cause or add to the harm of ME, MY FAMILY, and greater humanity/the Earth at large.
people can sit there and poo poo away the environmental impact of the things they do, or justify it...but in the end, we ALL have to answer to EACH OTHER.
you know...we are the world and that whole thing. *peacesignsmiley*
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Songwriter76
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Posted by ave1024
Maybe the people that have SUVs and don't want to change have them paid off and don't want to be strapped with a new car payment.
I can guarantee the difference in the cost of gas between a 15MPG SUV and a 30MPG sedan won't even come close to the difference in cost you would have with buying a new car (between a new car loan principal, interest, and insurance).
I actually crunched the numbers with my boss the other day. Going from a 17MPG vechicle to a 30MPG vechicle (and driving about 17k miles a year) saves you about $100 a month in gas.
That's not enough savings for me to be strapped with a new $500 car payment, and a $50 a month increase in insurance for insuring a newer car.
And on the other hand, maybe the people that are in the middle of loans would take too much of a hit selling it. Either negative equity or breaking even. It's a bad financial move.
well alright then - I can agree with that logic
Why can't you sell the SUV and get a good used car with better mileage that would also be paid off? Why does it have to be a new car?
With gas prices the way they are, I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who is interested in buying a used SUV. IMO if they're looking to spend the money and don't care about gas prices, they're going to most likely buy a new one.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by MrsFlatbread
I like my SUV and for me although the gas prices are $$$$$, it is not an option for me to give it up. My last car was an SUV and my next one will be as well! I feel safe in it, I can carry larger items and just plain like it. DH and I both have SUV's and we both plan to have then for a while.
I understand everyone has their own personal opinion on things, but I hate posts like these that try to make others feel bad about their choices in life and make them justify their reasons for things. Different strokes for different folks!!!
ITA! Also, I would like to add though, that I complain about gas, just because it is ridiculous! Some of my friends who have small compact cars are complaining as well. Gas is $4.19 where I am, so you dont get much for your money...I usually complain about most things when they are expensive and you dont get much for your dollar.
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GioiaMia
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from the airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us 
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Tilde
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from their airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Tilde
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from the airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us
Yeah, we get this a LOT from our friends. They all drive hondas (and other cars of the like) and invariably, when we go camping we get "oh, um, can you take this? We can't fit it in our car" or "can you pick us up from JFK we have a lot of luggage".
We flat out refuse. We have to hear about their "fantastic gas mileage" and "how we're killing the environment single handedly" yet when something DOES come up and something ALWAYS comes up, we're the ones to get the call.
Now as for our family? They all drive trucks and SUVs, if they ask for help, it's usually for manpower, not our vehicles.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Our Pathfinder is coming off of lease tomorrow. It's going back. Maybe we used it 6 times in the 39 months to schlep anything big..not worth keeping.
We just leased another camry and we almost leased a Prius, but that car finances better than leasing. The gas consumption would be better but it didn't offset the cost of the car enough.
So we all make choices about how we will impact the energy consumption, but until I see the need for a truck again, I will stick with my sedan.
PS I really wanted a car that took premium but we relented.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Ophelia
I think though, that on this particular subject as it relates to gas/oil consumption which is directly related to environmental issues and climate change...YES, you should be asked to explain why you feel you "NEED" something that has the potential to cause or add to the harm of ME, MY FAMILY, and greater humanity/the Earth at large.
people can sit there and poo poo away the environmental impact of the things they do, or justify it...but in the end, we ALL have to answer to EACH OTHER.
you know...we are the world and that whole thing. *peacesignsmiley*
But in that regard- do you think that people should be limited to how far they can commute to work? There's people who commute (i.e drive alone) 50 miles per day, in a car that may be *slightly* more fuel efficient than my SUV- I work 3 miles from home 3 days/week, so who's doing worse for the environment? My SUV also gets 23/27 which is comparable to many sedans.
I agree that we can all make small changes to do our part, but if you want to get into the debate over other's actions destroying our earth, the target should really be on the biggest culprit of them all- the big business and corporations of the world. I can turn off the water while i brush my teeth, but it's nothing compared to what's being used for, say, Walmart's warehouse's refrigeration systems, etc.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Tilde
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from the airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us
I couldn't agree with this more...
I can't count the amount of times my truck has been used to transport heavy or huge objects and pick up people from the airport.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Tilde
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from the airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by neenie
Posted by Ophelia
I think though, that on this particular subject as it relates to gas/oil consumption which is directly related to environmental issues and climate change...YES, you should be asked to explain why you feel you "NEED" something that has the potential to cause or add to the harm of ME, MY FAMILY, and greater humanity/the Earth at large.
people can sit there and poo poo away the environmental impact of the things they do, or justify it...but in the end, we ALL have to answer to EACH OTHER.
you know...we are the world and that whole thing. *peacesignsmiley*
But in that regard- do you think that people should be limited to how far they can commute to work? There's people who commute (i.e drive alone) 50 miles per day, in a car that may be *slightly* more fuel efficient than my SUV- I work 3 miles from home 3 days/week, so who's doing worse for the environment? My SUV also gets 23/27 which is comparable to many sedans.
I agree that we can all make small changes to do our part, but if you want to get into the debate over other's actions destroying our earth, the target should really be on the biggest culprit of them all- the big business and corporations of the world. I can turn off the water while i brush my teeth, but it's nothing compared to what's being used for, say, Walmart's warehouse's refrigeration systems, etc.
I agree.
If you're talking about the owners of the gus guzzling machines, I think the real responsibility is the manufacturers of those cars & the government that regulates them. Our current administration has blocked legislation by states to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. It was only this past winter where a federal judge upheld the right of the states to control air pollution. Go California!
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Ophelia
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by neenie
Posted by Ophelia
I think though, that on this particular subject as it relates to gas/oil consumption which is directly related to environmental issues and climate change...YES, you should be asked to explain why you feel you "NEED" something that has the potential to cause or add to the harm of ME, MY FAMILY, and greater humanity/the Earth at large.
people can sit there and poo poo away the environmental impact of the things they do, or justify it...but in the end, we ALL have to answer to EACH OTHER.
you know...we are the world and that whole thing. *peacesignsmiley*
But in that regard- do you think that people should be limited to how far they can commute to work? There's people who commute (i.e drive alone) 50 miles per day, in a car that may be *slightly* more fuel efficient than my SUV- I work 3 miles from home 3 days/week, so who's doing worse for the environment? My SUV also gets 23/27 which is comparable to many sedans.
I agree that we can all make small changes to do our part, but if you want to get into the debate over other's actions destroying our earth, the target should really be on the biggest culprit of them all- the big business and corporations of the world. I can turn off the water while i brush my teeth, but it's nothing compared to what's being used for, say, Walmart's warehouse's refrigeration systems, etc.
I agree.
If you're talking about the owners of the gus guzzling machines, I think the real responsibility is the manufacturers of those cars & the government that regulates them. Our current administration has blocked legislation by states to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. It was only this past winter where a federal judge upheld the right of the states to control air pollution. Go California!
I agree with you. I don't think of this as a me vs. you or us vs. them scenario.
each person needs to do their part. so YES, I say question your next door neighbor IN ADDITION TO questioning the manufacturers and the government.
no one is immune, so no one is exempt.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
We purchased our car through the tax break - hubby owns his own business. The tax break, in antiquity, is based on an old deduction that was provided for farmers and their farming equipment. Hence, the deduction only applies to cars that are over a certain weight limit - basically ALL luxury cars or SUV's. We couldn't afford, and in principle, won't buy a BMW or Mercedes, so that left us with one option to benefit from the deduction.
With that said, most of the time, the SUV sits in the driveway. It's my car, and for health/gas purposes (gas, as in gasoline, no my personal gas issues  ), I opt to walk to the train to work, so 5 days of the week, and usually on the weekends too, it's sitting pretty. I only use it in emergencies, when I have doctor appointments or when it rains and I can't walk DD home from school.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Ophelia
so YES, I say question your next door neighbor IN ADDITION TO questioning the manufacturers and the government.
no one is immune, so no one is exempt.
<heading right over to ask my neighbor how far his daily commute is and what the fuel efficiency is of his automobile> 
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
We have 2 SUVs and a Prius (hybrid).
We have no intentions to get rid of our Excursion (approx. 8.5mpg these days.) We don't complain about the fuel costs b/c like others have stated, we knew what we were getting into when we purchased the vehicle.
The Excursion is both function and pleasure for us. We do a lot of DIY projects and the Excursion's rear is the size of a large pickup, so we can fit a lot of stuff in the back. Plus it has one of the highest towing capacities...which we do need on occasion when DH rents large/heavy equipment or for our trailers (we have a "farm" type tractor that we bought in PA but take to be serviced in Jersey.)
I'm the primary driver of the Excursion and I don't go very far, if anywhere. I fill the tank every 2 weeks, if that.
Our Jeep Cherokee...well that's a different story. It rides nice and has great pickup, but it holds the same amount of stuff as our Prius! The only plus to the Jeep is the 4WD for those rare bad weather days. We still have a year left on our Jeep lease, but it was actually more cost effective for us to buy a Prius with how far my DH commutes and the rising gas prices. DH is SO HAPPY that he bought that car when he did. It's a fun car to drive I might add! Comes in handy when in Queens, Brooklyn and the City. 
FWIW, I get offers from strangers to buy my Excursion regularly.  I've had them run up to me at a light and hand me their business card b/c they're trying to find a SUV like mine. 
When the lease is up on the Jeep, we intend to buy another SUV, but a bigger one. It will be a 3rd vehicle (inclement weather for DH), so gas mileage isn't really a concern for us.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
I never EVER complain about gas so I guess this post really doesn't apply to me. I bought the car I have because I liked the style, price and it worked for us. It is a Honda CR-V. It doesn't get the best MPG in the world but it doesn't get the worst either. I am in a lease so I couldn't get rid of it today if I wanted to but I really don't want to - I'll probably buy it out at the end because I'm very happy with it. The gas prices don't bother me but I'm in the minority I guess.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Ophelia
I agree with you. I don't think of this as a me vs. you or us vs. them scenario.
each person needs to do their part. so YES, I say question your next door neighbor IN ADDITION TO questioning the manufacturers and the government.
no one is immune, so no one is exempt.
I don't think it's up to me to question my neighbor about their choice in automobile.
I see nothing wrong with putting it out there on a messageboard but to ask my neighbor or friends for a justification is nervy - at least I would see it that way.
Also to answer the OP's quesiton, I have an SUV from 1996 that I plan on driving into the ground. I'm not opting for a car payment unless I absolutely have to. If I go on long trips, I take a different car - but it's one that DH doesn't want to put the mileage on unless he has to.
eta. I think it's perfectly fine to complain about the price of gas - it's ridiculous. I don't think any one of us find $4/gallon acceptable.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
For the record, my suv is off-lease within a year and if I decide to get into another vehicle at that time - it will most likely be a hybrid sedan.
That being said, I would also like to point out longer drives are better for your engine than shorter trips and will help to maintain your mpg and control emissions - no matter the size of the car.
Those with 3 mile commutes can just as easily be asked why they don't walk or ride a bicycle?
Currently, I drive 14 miles to pick-up my mass transit. It's 2 hours door-to-door and I would not appreciate a knock on my door asking why I purchase the vehicles I do.
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Mrs-Beans
Posted by Tilde
I think its funny that everyone complains about people buying SUVs until they
*need a ride from the airport with their luggage
*have to go to home depot to pick something up
*are planning a huge shopping trip to BJs or Costco
*have to transport something large
*have to move
*need a ride somewhere in the snow
DH works ten blocks away and barely leaves the neighborhood UNLESS one of our family members or friends asks for a "quick favor"
What would they do without us
I've never asked anyone with an SUV for help for any of the above reasons. We have a Toyota Matrix which is a wagon, gets good gas mileage, and fits everything we need. <shrugs shoulders>
People aren't going to change their attitiudes about driving big trucks. What needs to change is the auto industry. They pushed these SUVs until they became family cars. Now they need to take some action and make them more fuel efficient, and I think more importantly to start introducing different forms of fuel.
Where's the engine that can run on my garbage already???
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
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Ophelia
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by neenie
Posted by Ophelia
so YES, I say question your next door neighbor IN ADDITION TO questioning the manufacturers and the government.
no one is immune, so no one is exempt.
<heading right over to ask my neighbor how far his daily commute is and what the fuel efficiency is of his automobile>
don't forget the jello mold
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by SweetTooth
Where's the engine that can run on my garbage already???
This is close...
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
for some reason I feel a lot safer in mine. Also, getting a new car at this point is not an option, I want to pay it off so I dont have a car payment. I have $13000 left 
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
Posted by SweetTooth
Where's the engine that can run on my garbage already???
Doc Brown can make you one.
IMAGE
If he could make that in 1985... I mean really, its been 20 years where is the mass production?
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Re: SUV question - for those of you say it's not an option to get rid of your SUV
Posted by Songwriter76
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ave1024
Maybe the people that have SUVs and don't want to change have them paid off and don't want to be strapped with a new car payment.
I can guarantee the difference in the cost of gas between a 15MPG SUV and a 30MPG sedan won't even come close to the difference in cost you would have with buying a new car (between a new car loan principal, interest, and insurance).
I actually crunched the numbers with my boss the other day. Going from a 17MPG vechicle to a 30MPG vechicle (and driving about 17k miles a year) saves you about $100 a month in gas.
That's not enough savings for me to be strapped with a new $500 car payment, and a $50 a month increase in insurance for insuring a newer car.
And on the other hand, maybe the people that are in the middle of loans would take too much of a hit selling it. Either negative equity or breaking even. It's a bad financial move.
well alright then - I can agree with that logic
Why can't you sell the SUV and get a good used car with better mileage that would also be paid off? Why does it have to be a new car?
I don't think she has to justify why she can't sell her SUV and get a smaller used car.
Everybody does not feel OK about buying a used car. Especially after some people admitted on this site using regular gas in their leased car requiring premium.
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