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Re: They/Them
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Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people? ‘Its’?
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Re: They/Them
Posted by nycbuslady
I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
Right- I'd be like, Who's backpack did Sally pick up?
Because that makes it sound like Sally is picking up someone else's backpack kwim??
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Re: They/Them
The only reason kids have any issues today is because they have to navigate a world filled with intolerance and ignorance. What a better place the world would be if people worried less about others choices and instead showed more compassion for where others are at with theirs.
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Re: They/Them
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I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Due to the area my DC is active in...there can be several individuals that are fluid or gender neutral. I do get a little confused by it but I am glad to see their generation embracing things and people that are not the same as them and respecting them instead of making examples of them.
I also know of a few parents that are trans or gender neutral.
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Re: They/Them
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Posted by nycbuslady
I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
There is so much wrong with this comment but I'll say this, if a person EXPLICITLY asks you to refer to them by a particular pronoun and you ignore that request because you think it's "silly", it makes you an a$$hole.
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Re: They/Them
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Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people? ‘Its’?
What did they identify as a person? Did they have a boy or girl name? Whom did they interact with more? Did they ever get married? To which sex?
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
No, of course not. They need the tax dollars. But those taxes won’t help with enough social services to help them. Same old song and dance.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Hofstra26
The only reason kids have any issues today is because they have to navigate a world filled with intolerance and ignorance. What a better place the world would be if people worried less about others choices and instead showed more compassion for where others are at with theirs.
You can be very compassionate and think some things are just ridiculous and over the top.
Kids are now being pressured by woke society to pick a gender, out of 70 something of them.
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Re: They/Them
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Posted by nycbuslady
I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Thank.you.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by windyweather21
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people? ‘Its’?
What did they identify as a person? Did they have a boy or girl name? Whom did they interact with more? Did they ever get married? To which sex?
They (with a female name, whatever that means) adopted two children and married a man (I have no details about her husband’s sex organs).
But the point is they identified as a woman. Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with. They identify with what they identify with. You kind of just contradicted your original statement.
Edit: new keyboard.
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Re: They/Them
Y'all folks are starting to shit on my proud mommy moment. 
All jokes aside, when this first came out - I thought it was extreme and ridiculous. But I get it and if that's what a person wants so be it. I will be open about the fact that it isn't easy for me to speak in they/them. It's a conscious effort.
It is really important at my new job, we are even asked to announce our pronouns in intros. I am not going to lose my job or make anyone feel like shit over it.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by nycbuslady
I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
There is so much wrong with this comment but I'll say this, if a person EXPLICITLY asks you to refer to them by a particular pronoun and you ignore that request because you think it's "silly", it makes you an a$$hole.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people? ‘Its’?
What did they identify as a person? Did they have a boy or girl name? Whom did they interact with more? Did they ever get married? To which sex?
They (with a female name, whatever that means) adopted two children and married a man (I have no details about her husband’s sex organs).
But the point is they identified as a woman. Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with. They identify with what they identify with. You kind of just contradicted your original statement.
Edit: new keyboard.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
No, of course not. They need the tax dollars. But those taxes won’t help with enough social services to help them. Same old song and dance.
I was making a joke of how babies that were different were brought to the woods and left to die. Such as in medieval times.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Sash
Y'all folks are starting to shit on my proud mommy moment.
All jokes aside, when this first came out - I thought it was extreme and ridiculous. But I get it and if that's what a person wants so be it. I will be open about the fact that it isn't easy for me to speak in they/them. It's a conscious effort.
It is really important at my new job, we are even asked to announce our pronouns in intros. I am not going to lose my job or make anyone feel like shit over it.
I am going to agree with you. I didn’t think it was ridiculous, per se, but I had a hard time wrapping my head around it. I just simply can’t understand because I do not feel I am stuck in a man’s body (although it would be nice to stand and pee instead of holding it in or hovering in some public bathroom).
That being said, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable. If they want to be called a certain pronoun, then fine. It doesn’t bother me. And if it did bother me, then I really should do some self-reflection of WHY it bothers me because at that point, it has more to do with me than them.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people? ‘Its’?
What did they identify as a person? Did they have a boy or girl name? Whom did they interact with more? Did they ever get married? To which sex?
They (with a female name, whatever that means) adopted two children and married a man (I have no details about her husband’s sex organs).
But the point is they identified as a woman. Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with. They identify with what they identify with. You kind of just contradicted your original statement.
Edit: new keyboard.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
Slavery has been around from the dawn of time...so I guess you are good with owning people since it's so embedded in human history.
Screw progress!
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Sash
Y'all folks are starting to shit on my proud mommy moment.
All jokes aside, when this first came out - I thought it was extreme and ridiculous. But I get it and if that's what a person wants so be it. I will be open about the fact that it isn't easy for me to speak in they/them. It's a conscious effort.
It is really important at my new job, we are even asked to announce our pronouns in intros. I am not going to lose my job or make anyone feel like shit over it.
You are right! And you should be proud! 
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
No, of course not. They need the tax dollars. But those taxes won’t help with enough social services to help them. Same old song and dance.
I was making a joke of how babies that were different were brought to the woods and left to die. Such as in medieval times.
Whoops! That went over my head  but it felt wrong to laugh at it.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by nycbuslady
I find it weird to use they/them for a person you know. It's different when it's more "anonymous". Like, if you're driving and a car cuts you off. You can't see who's driving, so you say "Man, I can't believe they cut me off!" But, "Sally picked up their backpack" sounds weird and totally grammatically inicorrect!
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
There is so much wrong with this comment but I'll say this, if a person EXPLICITLY asks you to refer to them by a particular pronoun and you ignore that request because you think it's "silly", it makes you an a$$hole.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
Whoa!
Normally, I'd ignore you but this comment is the most ignorant and flat out stupid thing I've ever read. It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what transgender and gender fluid is. What the adults in the room are talking about goes FAR beyond what "someone likes in the bedroom".
I'm not going to continue this back and forth simply because you're a waste of time and it's abundantly clear that you have ZERO understanding about any of this.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Y'all folks are starting to shit on my proud mommy moment.
All jokes aside, when this first came out - I thought it was extreme and ridiculous. But I get it and if that's what a person wants so be it. I will be open about the fact that it isn't easy for me to speak in they/them. It's a conscious effort.
It is really important at my new job, we are even asked to announce our pronouns in intros. I am not going to lose my job or make anyone feel like shit over it.
You are right! And you should be proud!
ITA! 
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They/Them
As a spinoff question -- How is this they/them handled in other languages, especially romance languages like Spanish and Italian where EVERYTHING is masculine or feminine? I speak Italian, but not daily, and I've yet to have a need to refer to a singular person as "they".
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Sash
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Re: They/Them
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Once you simply accept the fact that there are some people who wish to go by certain pronouns you will do a lot less eye rolling. The fact is, it comes down to respect for another human being. It's unnecessary to understand why someone chose a particular pronoun nor does a person have to agree or like it BUT being a tolerant person means you keep your opinions to yourself and respect a person's wishes.
Just because someone has decided in their head that there should only be gay, straight, boy and girl doesn't change the reality that there is a far greater spectrum than that.
This is why these kids have so many issues. You are born a boy or girl. You like who you like.
And then what would an intersex baby be? I grew up with a very close family friend who was not born with male/female sex organs, but looked like a girl. I never knew this until I was older. Then what are those people?
Don't they leave them in the woods to die ...just lijke twins or cleft lip.
No, of course not. They need the tax dollars. But those taxes won’t help with enough social services to help them. Same old song and dance.
I was making a joke of how babies that were different were brought to the woods and left to die. Such as in medieval times.
I think I’m the only one who got or only one who thought it was funny. Lol.
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