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pinkiegirl

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

MS DS is 2.5 years old and the Monday after the Newtown shooting his daycare did intruder drills and they have also stepped up their security measures and precautions since the shooting.
As a parent I appreciate this. They didnt call it an intruder drill. They called it a safety drill.. my DS told me he had to "practice being really quiet"
In this day and age, whether we like it or not.. kids needs to know what to do in an emergency. It makes me sad they have to practice such things... but it could save their lives in ANY emergency.

Posted 1/4/13 9:29 AM
 
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I don't have any kids, but if I did, I'd rather them be prepared than not.

Posted 1/4/13 9:44 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I'm ok with it. 100%

No way would I keep my child out of it or not participate. She needs to know how to react not stand like a sitting duck crying because she's confused and scared while a mad man takes easy aim at her.

Repetition of drills creates muscel memory. I still react instantly when I feel the ground move. Why? Because I did a thousand earthquake drills. When the tree fell on our house, I shut off all lights after I dove for a framed door way. Got outside and away from the home, why?? because that is the drill.

These drills aren't new.

Honestly, I get angry when they aren't done MORE often.

Posted 1/4/13 9:50 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

My kids have had these drills for years. I'm fine with it. They call them "CODEWORD" drills (I used codeword.. but there is actually a codeword that they say to start the drill.)

When I was younger we had 'air raid' drills. A horn sounded and we'd file down into the basement of the school (which had padded walls for certain gym sports). We'd face the wall and lean our foreheads against it with our arms over our heads.

We NEVER had an air raid. If we had, I'm not entirely sure we would have been protected. But .. better safe than sorry.

We also did (and they still do) Fire Drills. In all the years I went to school, we never had a fire.

Events are rare.. but I'd rather the school and the children be at least a LITTLE prepared for an event.. than completely caught off guard.

Of course I'm sad that this is the world we live in. I'm sad that there are terrorists and murderers and thieves and all around terrible people that breathe the same air as my babies.. and I'm hopeful that things will change as they get older.. but until things get better.. I'd rather err on the side of caution.

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Posted 1/4/13 10:14 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by rsquared

We do them in my school (NYCDOE) and we have to gather the students in the corner of the room (outside of the view of the small window on the door) and lock the doors. I think its really important, and I practice it more often then the school does. However, we do not lock them in cabinets or closets during a drill. That is scary, and I would never subject a kid to that. I was really cautious when I taught them the procedure and told them its "something we do when there is an emergency and we need to stay safe." I never called it an intruder drill or anything that would really scare them. There is a way to be prepared without scaring them for life.



This is what we do~

Posted 1/4/13 10:14 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by halfbaked

I don't have any kids, but if I did, I'd rather them be prepared than not.



I agree. Honestly, its hard to get adults to listen to instructions during a bad situation and I'm sure it's A LOT harder to get a class of young children to follow instructions especially when their is danger. I would want my (future) children to be prepared, it's for their safety.

But I agree it is a sad scary world we live in. Chat Icon

Posted 1/4/13 10:17 AM
 

Ophelia
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I HATE that this is what it is coming to, but I would much rather the kids be prepared and used to behaving in a certain way in an emergency. my son is only 3 and it would probably be much more difficult for them to grasp it if they'd never done it before.

Teachers on the front lines. I can't get over the thought.

Posted 1/4/13 10:22 AM
 

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Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I received a phone call after the Newton tragedy from the principal informing us as parents that they would be implementing more drills like this throughtout the school year. (They have already been doing them since Columbine in our SD)
He said how he was surprised on the number of parents every year that keep their kids home that day and make them opt out of this extremely important safety drill.
I think before kids I have thought...no way I would never put my child through that stress of a drill like that....maybe even be a little naive to think I live in a bubble and things like that don't happen to us here.
After 3 kids, columbine, 9-11, virginia tech, Newton, abductions, etc. I have no problem what so ever with the schools practicing these drills with my kids. I don't want my kids to be naive to this world, as much as I would love for them to never have to worry about anything in life, never have to fear anything I know what kind of bad lurks around. It's the same as teaching your child about strangers while playing outside and how to scream, run, get an adult....but within the school walls. I have no problem what so ever with my school wanting to do everything in their power to keep my children safe.

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Posted 1/4/13 10:29 AM
 

tara73
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I am OK with any type of drill that could save the lives of teachers and children. Fire, lockdown, lockout, earthquake......... whatever.

In this case, they learn a survival skill that can become VERY useful in not only an active shooter attack, but also if the home is broken into etc.

WE, as adults, should also be thinking of this for ourselves too. Malls, movie theaters, workplaces, restaurants, open parks.......... we need to be thinking of the crazies all the time, which is unfortunate.

I found this video by the Houston PD very informative.

Posted 1/4/13 10:38 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Also. I would like to be informed of this beforehand and have an option of my kid not participating.



Which would be worse? Her being killed by a gunman in school because she didnt know what to do?

I do NOT mean any disrespect. They do this, and HAVE done this, to make sure the kids know what to do in an emergemcy.

Posted 1/4/13 10:43 AM
 

2boys1girl
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by Paramount

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Also. I would like to be informed of this beforehand and have an option of my kid not participating.



Which would be worse? Her being killed by a gunman in school because she didnt know what to do?

I do NOT mean any disrespect. They do this, and HAVE done this, to make sure the kids know what to do in an emergemcy.



It's scary to think you would not want your child to participate, they are not doing reanactments and scaring the bejesus out of your child. They are doing safety drills in a professional manner to hopefully prepare them IF there is ever a reason to be prepared. We cannot all be so naive to think things like this can never happen to our children, our town....not now, not with all that has happened in the last 10 years.

Posted 1/4/13 10:49 AM
 

2boys1girl
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by JessNicole7EMF


Chances of something happening are so small.




I can't fathom how any parent still feels this way after CT....quiet CT just a ferry ride away from LI. Is it a chance your willing to take? Not trying to be snarky but honestly, better safe than sorry?

Posted 1/4/13 10:54 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Our kids had lockdown drills every year for a few years now. They just had theirs right before the shooting. We were notified about a month before hand that they were having a drill and once it was completed we got a phone call saying it was completed.

Honestly, I dont think you should have an option to OPT OUT.

Years ago, they had bomb drills where kids hid under the desks, I see it as being the same thing. I'd rather my child be educated as to what to do in an emergency and just pray that it never happens!

Posted 1/4/13 10:57 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by BeachMom


Honestly, I dont think you should have an option to OPT OUT.




I agree. the unprepared child could freak out or put someone else in harms way b/c they don't know what to do.

this isn't sex or religion. it's SAFETY.

Posted 1/4/13 11:00 AM
 

MandJZ
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by BeachMom


Honestly, I dont think you should have an option to OPT OUT.




I agree. the unprepared child could freak out or put someone else in harms way b/c they don't know what to do.

this isn't sex or religion. it's SAFETY.



After reading everything and thinking about it I really think I agree with this.

I said to DH last night "but what if the child who opts out is the one who is screaming or doesn't know where to go?" It is so, so scary that this is the thought process now but it's true.

Posted 1/4/13 11:02 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I am 100% ok with it. Better to be prepared.

Posted 1/4/13 11:02 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I think it is a SICK SICK world when our kids have to practice hiding in cabinets and it makes me sad for them, unfortunately, it is also a necessary evil today.

It makes me sad to see the kind of childhood they will have. I was a child in the 80s and the freedom we still had was so different. It is not just nostalgia either, the world is MUCH sicker place now. I know there were "bad people" then too, but it is different now. I am sad, very sad, for my children. I feel like I was the last generation of truly free and innocent children.

Posted 1/4/13 11:02 AM
 

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Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

For teachers- do you guys get the okay to use your judgement and get the kids out through windows or an outside door?

Posted 1/4/13 11:26 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

I don't like it, but in this world it is definitely necessary.

Posted 1/4/13 11:27 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by BeachMom


Honestly, I dont think you should have an option to OPT OUT.




I agree. the unprepared child could freak out or put someone else in harms way b/c they don't know what to do.

this isn't sex or religion. it's SAFETY.



ITA. We were at a hotel recently and the fire alarm went off. DD immediately started to cry and panic and though it was a false alarm, she was still shaken. And while it's sad that it has to be this way, I prefer for her to go through drills, and understand the importance of being calm and listening to the adults.

Until recently I worked in a city school and in 2009 we had a credible bomb threat, which was handled terribly, and last year an armed robber ran into our building as he ran from police. Fortunately he was caught fairly quickly, but that also could have gotten very nasty. I hope my former school is getting its act together. I always knew, God forbid, I would get my kids into the closets and lock and block the doors- but that was my plan. We never had any specific protocols.

Posted 1/4/13 11:58 AM
 

BriBri2u
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by BeachMom


Honestly, I dont think you should have an option to OPT OUT.




I agree. the unprepared child could freak out or put someone else in harms way b/c they don't know what to do.

this isn't sex or religion. it's SAFETY.



I also agree.

There should not be an opt out option.

I don't understand where people are coming from when they say they wouldn't want their child involved in this given the society we live inChat Icon

Posted 1/4/13 12:04 PM
 

BriBri2u
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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

Posted by JessNicole7EMF

I don't like it.

Chances of something happening are so small.

Yes I know they do happen - but with children that little I would think the teachers being trained and having a plan is more important than having 4yr old kids hiding in a closet once a year.



It did happen....and it can happen again, there are way too many crazy people in our world today.

Posted 1/4/13 12:05 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

nyc middle school mom here. This is common practice and we were *reminded* of it in the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy.

Posted 1/4/13 12:07 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

My DD's school sent home a notice that they will be doing it. They were going to talk with the upper grades (4th and above) about WHY they're doing it because they're older and they know more about what's going on, but the younger grades were just being told it's a new drill.

I don't know if my DD's class has done it yet, but I support any measures to keep her safe.

Posted 1/4/13 12:07 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts: A friend posted on FB today...(current events related)

As a parent with a child in a Newtown ct school who's 3 year old was in lockdown for over 3 hours that day I am thankful they have practiced these before and knew what do! I am grateful that sandy hook had a lockdown drill in place and those teachers and students knew what to do, if this system hadnt been in place there would have been many more casualties. Those teachers went into lockdown and because of it the killer could not access certain classrooms and many children and teachers lives were spared. If your school does it be thankful and if yours does not I would be demanding they start doing them.

Posted 1/4/13 1:01 PM
 
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