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Chai77
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by smdl
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If Hillary nor any OTHER person said and did what Trump has, you'd all have their ass. You would be calling them out on what a POS they are. But, since it's him it's ok.
I'm going to say I really have zero respect for anyone who is voting for him. How you can honestly look yourself, child or others in the eye and in good conscience vote for him is completely beyond me.
#ihatehertoo
If anyone OTHER than Hillary did the things she did and said the lies she has told, everyone would have their ass.
I cannot respect ANYONE who would vote for Hillary. Definitely goes both ways.
What did she do? And please don't say her emails. We would have to procecute all politicians of every party for using personal emails at her time and before her time.
She also killed nobody in Benghazi.
Trump supporters and Republicans have made Hillary the most powerful Secretary of State ever in the history of the US. They are acting like she was the commander in chief. For real???? People need to think before they speak. She was ONLY a Secretary of State. People need to read on the function of a Secretary of State. Staffing embassies, and calling the shots is not one of them. So blame Bush, blame Obama, blame the congress but don't blame her. This is just ridiculous how ignorant people are on how the process works.
I actually do not support Hillary or Trump. I will not vote for either.
That said, smdl, your prior post regarding Trump supporters is dead on accurate and THANK YOU for putting it out there.
People just don't like to hear about the ugly underbelly-- the truth is his campaign is built upon fear, xenophobia, racism, sexism, and hate. That is the damn truth. Build a wall is his one great "concrete" plan-- Keep out the Mexican rapists? How can anyone go along with this?!!?!
You guys can be offended and deny it all you want. This is our country's future we are playing with, and no time to mince words.
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by Chai77
Posted by smdl
Posted by leighdvm
Posted by JennZ
If Hillary nor any OTHER person said and did what Trump has, you'd all have their ass. You would be calling them out on what a POS they are. But, since it's him it's ok.
I'm going to say I really have zero respect for anyone who is voting for him. How you can honestly look yourself, child or others in the eye and in good conscience vote for him is completely beyond me.
#ihatehertoo
If anyone OTHER than Hillary did the things she did and said the lies she has told, everyone would have their ass.
I cannot respect ANYONE who would vote for Hillary. Definitely goes both ways.
What did she do? And please don't say her emails. We would have to procecute all politicians of every party for using personal emails at her time and before her time.
She also killed nobody in Benghazi.
Trump supporters and Republicans have made Hillary the most powerful Secretary of State ever in the history of the US. They are acting like she was the commander in chief. For real???? People need to think before they speak. She was ONLY a Secretary of State. People need to read on the function of a Secretary of State. Staffing embassies, and calling the shots is not one of them. So blame Bush, blame Obama, blame the congress but don't blame her. This is just ridiculous how ignorant people are on how the process works.
I actually do not support Hillary or Trump. I will not vote for either.
That said, smdl, your prior post regarding Trump supporters is dead on accurate and THANK YOU for putting it out there.
People just don't like to hear about the ugly underbelly-- the truth is his campaign is built upon fear, xenophobia, racism, sexism, and hate. That is the damn truth. Build a wall is his one great "concrete" plan-- Keep out the Mexican rapists? How can anyone go along with this?!!?!
You guys can be offended and deny it all you want. This is our country's future we are playing with, and no time to mince words.
I just made the cliff notes of his campaign.
I understand people may not like Hillary. She is far from perfect. There are part of her agenda that I do not support (GMO. I am huge on organic) but RIGHT NOW, in this particular election, she is the best choice. We also need someone extremely strong on foreign politics. Again, right now in this election.
So I do understand not voting for her. But I do not understand anyone claiming they support him but not what he says. That defies logic. And what he says is pretty clear to everyone. Even to his own party. It's not Hillary supporters or the liberal Jew media as he calls it. Nobody is portraying him a different way that what he says. It is all HIS words. They are not twisted or taken out of contest.
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klingklang77
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
I understand people not supporting Hillary; I get that. That's all I'll say about that.
But I do not understand how people can support Trump. I also do not see logic of I support him, but not what he says. It makes no sense whatsoever.
At his rallies supporters are yelling "hang the b^tch" and "kill the b*tch". They are doing Nazi salutes, etc. Yes, it's not Trump doing that, but he is indirectly giving his supporters a voice. He has said nothing about these actions at his rallies. That is so dangerous.
This is an interesting opinion / comparison read to the Rabin assignation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/trumps-ambiguous-wink-wink-to-second-amendment-people.html?_r=0
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JennZ
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by leighdvm
Posted by JennZ
If Hillary nor any OTHER person said and did what Trump has, you'd all have their ass. You would be calling them out on what a POS they are. But, since it's him it's ok.
I'm going to say I really have zero respect for anyone who is voting for him. How you can honestly look yourself, child or others in the eye and in good conscience vote for him is completely beyond me.
#ihatehertoo
If anyone OTHER than Hillary did the things she did and said the lies she has told, everyone would have their ass.
I cannot respect ANYONE who would vote for Hillary. Definitely goes both ways.
I'm not voting for her either. But if you're comparing pears and apples she is most def the lesser of evils. He's a vile pig. He has zero respect for women, unless he's doing them and even that's shakey. He's openly mocked a physically handicapped reporter. He makes snide comments about shooting Hillary. He's flip flopped on everything in the last 20 years. He can't be challenged without throwing someone out. And now, the cherry is Obama is the founder of Isis. But it was sarcasm. He's a piece of shit. And IF, and that's a big IF he gets elected, someone of those second ammendment freaks will take him out. He's disgusting and a disgrace to all of us.
My vote will go to #3 on the list. Both candidates suck, he sucks more.
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DiamondGirl
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Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
To those who really hate Trump and have said HRC is the lesser of two evils, why not vote for her? No vote can be a considered a vote FOR Trump so if you do believe that she is better for us given our choices the. I really do encourage you to vote for her. I know people are pushing 3rd party but unfortunately, realistically he won't win
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eroxgirl
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by klingklang77
At his rallies supporters are yelling "hang the b^tch" and "kill the b*tch". They are doing Nazi salutes, etc. Yes, it's not Trump doing that, but he is indirectly giving his supporters a voice. He has said nothing about these actions at his rallies. That is so dangerous.
I'd like to point out that Charles Manson didn't actually kill anyone either. Hitler didn't *actually* murder the Jews with his bare hands. But their names are synonymous with murder and hatred, and Donald Trump's name, at minimum, will now be synonymous with hatred, racism and misogyny. I pray that he doesn't add to that list..
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BargainMama
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
I don't know how anyone can respect someone who makes fun of disabled people. I have many friends that LOVE Trump, family included, and as a parent of a child with special needs, it makes me cringe to think that they actually excuse his behavior. Disgusting.
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Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Isn't this all a waste? I guess that's stating the obvious.
Can we all just agree that it's a damn shame that these are the two main candidates we have to pick from? I'm sure both sides can agree to that.
As Americans, we deserve better. Much better.
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smdl
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by BargainMama
I don't know how anyone can respect someone who makes fun of disabled people. I have many friends that LOVE Trump, family included, and as a parent of a child with special needs, it makes me cringe to think that they actually excuse his behavior. Disgusting.
Oh trust me! I have a child with special needs. And people stil defend him as he did not mean it, it was a joke. What is there to defend? We are not stupid. We know what he says and does.
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BargainMama
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by smdl
Posted by BargainMama
I don't know how anyone can respect someone who makes fun of disabled people. I have many friends that LOVE Trump, family included, and as a parent of a child with special needs, it makes me cringe to think that they actually excuse his behavior. Disgusting.
Oh trust me! I have a child with special needs. And people stil defend him as he did not mean it, it was a joke. What is there to defend? We are not stupid. We know what he says and does.
Right! and as a society, I like to think we have come a long way in terms of how we react to those with various special needs. People have become more accepting, more empathetic. I mean way back when it was okay to call them the "R" word, and many other disgusting labels. Disgraceful behavior like this just sets us back decades. So gross.
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
^ This
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
As Americans, we deserve better. Much better.
A different version of me would have once said the same.
Now, I don't think so.
WE are not better. WE are not better people, with better understanding, more compassion, more empathy, more grace, or more kindness. The fact that someone like Donald Trump is the presidential nominee is proof of that.
We are a bitter, divided country and we did it to ourselves. We think so highly of ourselves yet we stomp around like toddlers throwing tantrums. Obama didn't do it. Bush didn't do it. WE AS PEOPLE did it. Generation after generation. We think we have entitlement, power, and we're better than everyone else. People are outraged over transgender bathrooms and same sex marriage and think they have a right to oppress people and ideologies that they don't agree with and have no basis for even hating in the first place! We hide ourselves behind some thinly veiled curtain of superiority that has every other country laughing at us.
We are broken. We can keep passing the blame and saying it's Obama's fault, Hillary's fault, Bush's fault...we are like a stunted generation stuck between knowing what is right and better and being completely unable to do so.
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cds58019
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by DiamondGirl
To those who really hate Trump and have said HRC is the lesser of two evils, why not vote for her? No vote can be a considered a vote FOR Trump so if you do believe that she is better for us given our choices the. I really do encourage you to vote for her. I know people are pushing 3rd party but unfortunately, realistically he won't win
If people just keep voting for the lesser of two evils then yes he definitely won't win. But if more people relaize that they are not being forced to choose between only Trump and Hillary he might have an actual chance. I hate hearing "I don't like xxx but I'm going to vote for them because I could never vote for xxx." And I hear it about both sides.
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KarenK122
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
As Americans, we deserve better. Much better.
A different version of me would have once said the same.
Now, I don't think so.
WE are not better. WE are not better people, with better understanding, more compassion, more empathy, more grace, or more kindness. The fact that someone like Donald Trump is the presidential nominee is proof of that.
We are a bitter, divided country and we did it to ourselves. We think so highly of ourselves yet we stomp around like toddlers throwing tantrums. Obama didn't do it. Bush didn't do it. WE AS PEOPLE did it. Generation after generation. We think we have entitlement, power, and we're better than everyone else. People are outraged over transgender bathrooms and same sex marriage and think they have a right to oppress people and ideologies that they don't agree with and have no basis for even hating in the first place! We hide ourselves behind some thinly veiled curtain of superiority that has every other country laughing at us.
We are broken. We can keep passing the blame and saying it's Obama's fault, Hillary's fault, Bush's fault...we are like a stunted generation stuck between knowing what is right and better and being completely unable to do so.
I haven't seemed to agree with you much on this thread but I TOTALLY agree with everything you said. The nation is in a sorry state of affairs and we the people need to take responsibility. We need to do better and be better people.
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DiamondGirl
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????
Posted by cds58019
Posted by DiamondGirl
To those who really hate Trump and have said HRC is the lesser of two evils, why not vote for her? No vote can be a considered a vote FOR Trump so if you do believe that she is better for us given our choices the. I really do encourage you to vote for her. I know people are pushing 3rd party but unfortunately, realistically he won't win
If people just keep voting for the lesser of two evils then yes he definitely won't win. But if more people relaize that they are not being forced to choose between only Trump and Hillary he might have an actual chance. I hate hearing "I don't like xxx but I'm going to vote for them because I could never vote for xxx." And I hear it about both sides.
I get what you're saying totally but if you look at the numbers and the polls it just isn't a possibility so my feeling is you should vote for HRC ( assuming you are one of the people who won't vote for trump )
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