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Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

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MissJones
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Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this election, mostly from trump supporters.
Listen, you can hate Hillary but the Donald is no angel. Get real.

And enough with the liberal hate. If thinking that people on a no fly list should not be able to buy guns, then liberal I am.

Posted 8/11/16 8:11 AM
 
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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by MissJones

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this election, mostly from trump supporters.
Listen, you can hate Hillary but the Donald is no angel. Get real.

And enough with the liberal hate. If thinking that people on a no fly list should not be able to buy guns, then liberal I am.





I don't think people who are on a no fly list should be able to buy a gun... OK you say the liberal hate...stop the trump hate.

Message edited 8/11/2016 8:19:29 AM.

Posted 8/11/16 8:16 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by FirstMate

Posted by KarenK122

Trump hates the media because the media hates Trump. They are suppose to be impartial but they are FAR from it. Yes he said a stupid remark about the 2nd Amendment but I also want to know why Hillary was speaking and the father of the Orlando shooter, who has terrorist affiliations, is sitting smack dab behind her on screen. What is that showing and was that even on the news? If it was, definitely it was swept by.




I agree with pretty much everything you wrote but I wanted to highlight this. I was beyond disturbed by the lack of media coverage of the Orlando shooter's dad. This morning I was watching the news and they were going on and on and on about Trump encouraging HRC be assassinated by the 2nd amendment supporters. Then, they briefly mention that the Orlando shooter's father was in the crowd at the HRC rally. It was basically, "Mateens father sat front and center. HRC's camp said she had no idea. Now to the weather." I was stunned that such a story was glossed over.

First of all, how could a known terrorist's father get into a political function like that with all of the secret service, etc.? You can not tell me that the dad is not on some watch list. His son, after pledging allegiance to ISIS, killed 50 people and injured another 50+ and he just shows up and is granted entry to that event? Secondly, how does the news just mention that in passing, like it was no biggie? Who invited him there? How did he get in? If HRC truly had no idea he was there, this is a serious security issue. Why wasn't that discussed in the story? If that was Trump and he gave that same response, it would be the only thing spoken about for days on end.

I'm really fed up with the media this election. It is so hard to get a real idea of what is going on because the media is so slanted. I would love to learn more about the third party candidates but it certainly isn't going to be through the news channels because they certainly get no air time.



I had heard about the father being at the rally but didn't care enough to look into it further. I agree it's in poor taste but last I heard, he didn't commit the act of terrorism so I guess I just don't see what the hoopla would be about, unless there's something I missed about him being involved in the shooting. Meanwhile, ex-congressman Mark Foley was at a trump rally and he himself was involved in a child molestation scandal while in congress. So I guess I just don't understand why the Orlando shooters father is a big deal but a child molester isn't. Again, unless I missed something and he was directly involved other than being his father.




I was thinking the same thing.

Just because this man's son shot up a club does that mean he's to be held responsible for his GROWN ADULT son's actions?? Years ago my DH worked with a man (a VERY hard working good employee) whose son broke into a home and killed the homeowner. Should he have not held a job or gone into the world anymore because of the crimes of his son??? So I guess I too cannot understand why the father of the Orlando shooter cannot still live his life, have an opinion, and support a candidate despite what his son did.

Am I missing something too?



Maybe because the father is known for anti american views and supported the Taliban. Hillary's camp absolutely knew he was there as the people sitting directly behind her are vetted. All it does is feed into the masses who think that Obama/Hillary are terrorist sympathizers.

Posted 8/11/16 8:17 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by Diane

Posted by MissJones

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this election, mostly from trump supporters.
Listen, you can hate Hillary but the Donald is no angel. Get real.

And enough with the liberal hate. If thinking that people on a no fly list should not be able to buy guns, then liberal I am.





I don't think people who are on a no fly list should be able to buy a gun... OK you say the liberal hate...stop the trump hate.



How can one "stop the Trump hate" when he keeps giving us so much stupidity to work with??? Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Honestly, do you really support the nonsense that is flying from this man's mouth???? He sounds like a bumbling idiot. How can you think he can lead a nation??? He can't even construct an intelligent sentence. He grasps at straws, stutters his words, and then because he has NOTHING to back up what he's saying he just starts insulting people. He's pathetic. Sorry, but he is.

Posted 8/11/16 8:21 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

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Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??

Posted 8/11/16 8:22 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by FirstMate

Posted by KarenK122

Trump hates the media because the media hates Trump. They are suppose to be impartial but they are FAR from it. Yes he said a stupid remark about the 2nd Amendment but I also want to know why Hillary was speaking and the father of the Orlando shooter, who has terrorist affiliations, is sitting smack dab behind her on screen. What is that showing and was that even on the news? If it was, definitely it was swept by.




I agree with pretty much everything you wrote but I wanted to highlight this. I was beyond disturbed by the lack of media coverage of the Orlando shooter's dad. This morning I was watching the news and they were going on and on and on about Trump encouraging HRC be assassinated by the 2nd amendment supporters. Then, they briefly mention that the Orlando shooter's father was in the crowd at the HRC rally. It was basically, "Mateens father sat front and center. HRC's camp said she had no idea. Now to the weather." I was stunned that such a story was glossed over.

First of all, how could a known terrorist's father get into a political function like that with all of the secret service, etc.? You can not tell me that the dad is not on some watch list. His son, after pledging allegiance to ISIS, killed 50 people and injured another 50+ and he just shows up and is granted entry to that event? Secondly, how does the news just mention that in passing, like it was no biggie? Who invited him there? How did he get in? If HRC truly had no idea he was there, this is a serious security issue. Why wasn't that discussed in the story? If that was Trump and he gave that same response, it would be the only thing spoken about for days on end.

I'm really fed up with the media this election. It is so hard to get a real idea of what is going on because the media is so slanted. I would love to learn more about the third party candidates but it certainly isn't going to be through the news channels because they certainly get no air time.



I had heard about the father being at the rally but didn't care enough to look into it further. I agree it's in poor taste but last I heard, he didn't commit the act of terrorism so I guess I just don't see what the hoopla would be about, unless there's something I missed about him being involved in the shooting. Meanwhile, ex-congressman Mark Foley was at a trump rally and he himself was involved in a child molestation scandal while in congress. So I guess I just don't understand why the Orlando shooters father is a big deal but a child molester isn't. Again, unless I missed something and he was directly involved other than being his father.




I was thinking the same thing.

Just because this man's son shot up a club does that mean he's to be held responsible for his GROWN ADULT son's actions?? Years ago my DH worked with a man (a VERY hard working good employee) whose son broke into a home and killed the homeowner. Should he have not held a job or gone into the world anymore because of the crimes of his son??? So I guess I too cannot understand why the father of the Orlando shooter cannot still live his life, have an opinion, and support a candidate despite what his son did.

Am I missing something too?



Maybe because the father is known for anti american views and supported the Taliban. Hillary's camp absolutely knew he was there as the people sitting directly behind her are vetted. All it does is feed into the masses who think that Obama/Hillary are terrorist sympathizers.



I see. I didn't do much reading up on him so I wasn't sure what the deal was. Thanks.

Posted 8/11/16 8:24 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??



You can't be that obtuse, can you?

Fact Check

Politifact

Posted 8/11/16 8:27 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by MissJones

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this election, mostly from trump supporters.
Listen, you can hate Hillary but the Donald is no angel. Get real.

And enough with the liberal hate. If thinking that people on a no fly list should not be able to buy guns, then liberal I am.



Exactly! "Liberal media" is always to blame but nothing is said when stories come out like the one yesterday- man beaten for wearing a trump t-shirt. Everyone goes nuts because certain news outlets (cough Fox News cough) fail to include this important (IMO) detail-

“He goes like, ‘You’re a n***er. You’re not even supposed to be here. This is a white people spot',” Friendly’s employee Mimi Sonmez told reporters.

So a man who happened to be wearing a trump shirt, yelled racial slurs at another man, and
was attacked. But in very few articles about it do they give the full story. But yeah, blame "liberal media koolaid".

And before anyone says it, I think the attacker was completely and utterly wrong for what he did. The point here is to point out the complete hypocrisy in criticizing the media for spinning things in favor of liberals.

Posted 8/11/16 8:30 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

this stuff that conservatives spout about the "liberal media" is ridiculous because guess what?? LIBERALS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT. on pretty much everything in our country's history.
Freeing the slaves
Allowing women to vote
Desegregation
Interracial marriage
The Civil Rights Act
The Voting Rights Act
Women’s rights
Same-sex marriage

So really Trump supporters, just take a seat and get out of the way of progress. your so called values are out of date and nothing more than a cover for your bigotry and hatred.

Posted 8/11/16 8:41 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??



Do a little research sometimes. Knowledge is power.

Posted 8/11/16 8:43 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??



Do a little research sometimes. Knowledge is power.



Based on much of what I see on my FB feed, Trump supporters don't do research. Or quote from credible sources. Or even care if what he says is complete and total BS because they are too busy "riding the Trump Train".Chat Icon

Posted 8/11/16 8:45 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??



Do a little research sometimes. Knowledge is power.




Nah, it's just easier to tit for tat with a snarky Hillary comment.

Posted 8/11/16 8:47 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by JennZ

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Diane

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Aaaaannd now Trump is saying Obama is the founder of Isis. He's such an idiot.




I'm starting to think it's less him being an idiot and more him saying things to get his supporters riled up knowing full well that they 1. Won't fact check 2. Don't care if it's true or not.

I think he could accuse HRC or Obama of assassinating Lincoln and people would believe him.



I think the same goes with Hillary.......she has a rap sheet for liesChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Fact check.



Where do you get your facts? Hillary's emails??



Do a little research sometimes. Knowledge is power.




Nah, it's just easier to tit for tat with a snarky Hillary comment.



Chat Icon basically.

Posted 8/11/16 8:50 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by whoababy11

this stuff that conservatives spout about the "liberal media" is ridiculous because guess what?? LIBERALS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT. on pretty much everything in our country's history.
Freeing the slaves
Allowing women to vote
Desegregation
Interracial marriage
The Civil Rights Act
The Voting Rights Act
Women’s rights
Same-sex marriage

So really Trump supporters, just take a seat and get out of the way of progress. your so called values are out of date and nothing more than a cover for your bigotry and hatred.




Agreed!
I don't think we can talk "values" here with Trump. How does not he even fall in the category of conservatives? He married 3 times. A bankruptcy rap sheet and a litigation in process for Trump University where he scammed people. Those are actual facts. Nothing to do with hating or loving Trump.

Message edited 8/11/2016 9:42:12 AM.

Posted 8/11/16 9:41 AM
 

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I just wish people who plan to vote for Trump just came out and say the are right wing haters. Modern white supremacists. At least own it and say it. We are racist, we just want white bible people in this country, carrying guns to go to the saloon ...I mean store. You know..like 200 years ago. Women obey men.

But then don't blame others for seeing right through the "he says it like it is".

Posted 8/11/16 9:46 AM
 

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This is a little OT but a very interesting read:

Katy Tur Talks Covering Donald Trump

She writes about what we don't see of presidential campaign coverage which I enjoyed reading. I can't imagine what it must be like to be subject to his insults as a reporter- being called "Little Katy" and needing to be walked to your car by the Secret Service because Trump made his supporters pissed at you.

Posted 8/11/16 9:51 AM
 

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Posted by whoababy11

this stuff that conservatives spout about the "liberal media" is ridiculous because guess what?? LIBERALS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT. on pretty much everything in our country's history.
Freeing the slaves
Allowing women to vote
Desegregation
Interracial marriage
The Civil Rights Act
The Voting Rights Act
Women’s rights
Same-sex marriage

So really Trump supporters, just take a seat and get out of the way of progress. your so called values are out of date and nothing more than a cover for your bigotry and hatred.



This captures the essence of what I feel and to take it further it's why I can't see voting Republican until they change their platform.

How could I support people who are against marriage equality? Who think people several people I love dearly can't share the joy of marriage the way I do with my DH?

How can I support a party that votes against paid leave for new parents? Against student loan and tuition reform so our future thinkers and doers of the world can begin their lives without a crushing debt at 22?

They are the party of some earlier era that I don't want to go back to.

Posted 8/11/16 10:03 AM
 

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Posted by MrsProfessor

This is a little OT but a very interesting read:

Katy Tur Talks Covering Donald Trump

She writes about what we don't see of presidential campaign coverage which I enjoyed reading. I can't imagine what it must be like to be subject to his insults as a reporter- being called "Little Katy" and needing to be walked to your car by the Secret Service because Trump made his supporters pissed at you.



Thank you for sharing this. Not that I needed any confirmation as to how disgusting he is, but this just made my blood boil. I watch the Today Show every morning and have often wondered how Katy felt about being assigned to the Trump campaign. Very interesting read.

Posted 8/11/16 10:27 AM
 

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Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Ps. It just came out that Trump had a disgraced GOP
Politician in his gallery (people behind him
In a rally) that Sexually harassed congressional pages. . This was yesterday.

Let's not throw stones shall we.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/mark-foley-donald-trump-226896

Message edited 8/11/2016 10:45:01 AM.

Posted 8/11/16 10:41 AM
 

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by FirstMate

Posted by KarenK122

Trump hates the media because the media hates Trump. They are suppose to be impartial but they are FAR from it. Yes he said a stupid remark about the 2nd Amendment but I also want to know why Hillary was speaking and the father of the Orlando shooter, who has terrorist affiliations, is sitting smack dab behind her on screen. What is that showing and was that even on the news? If it was, definitely it was swept by.




I agree with pretty much everything you wrote but I wanted to highlight this. I was beyond disturbed by the lack of media coverage of the Orlando shooter's dad. This morning I was watching the news and they were going on and on and on about Trump encouraging HRC be assassinated by the 2nd amendment supporters. Then, they briefly mention that the Orlando shooter's father was in the crowd at the HRC rally. It was basically, "Mateens father sat front and center. HRC's camp said she had no idea. Now to the weather." I was stunned that such a story was glossed over.

First of all, how could a known terrorist's father get into a political function like that with all of the secret service, etc.? You can not tell me that the dad is not on some watch list. His son, after pledging allegiance to ISIS, killed 50 people and injured another 50+ and he just shows up and is granted entry to that event? Secondly, how does the news just mention that in passing, like it was no biggie? Who invited him there? How did he get in? If HRC truly had no idea he was there, this is a serious security issue. Why wasn't that discussed in the story? If that was Trump and he gave that same response, it would be the only thing spoken about for days on end.

I'm really fed up with the media this election. It is so hard to get a real idea of what is going on because the media is so slanted. I would love to learn more about the third party candidates but it certainly isn't going to be through the news channels because they certainly get no air time.



I had heard about the father being at the rally but didn't care enough to look into it further. I agree it's in poor taste but last I heard, he didn't commit the act of terrorism so I guess I just don't see what the hoopla would be about, unless there's something I missed about him being involved in the shooting. Meanwhile, ex-congressman Mark Foley was at a trump rally and he himself was involved in a child molestation scandal while in congress. So I guess I just don't understand why the Orlando shooters father is a big deal but a child molester isn't. Again, unless I missed something and he was directly involved other than being his father.




I was thinking the same thing.

Just because this man's son shot up a club does that mean he's to be held responsible for his GROWN ADULT son's actions?? Years ago my DH worked with a man (a VERY hard working good employee) whose son broke into a home and killed the homeowner. Should he have not held a job or gone into the world anymore because of the crimes of his son??? So I guess I too cannot understand why the father of the Orlando shooter cannot still live his life, have an opinion, and support a candidate despite what his son did.

Am I missing something too?



Are you ladies serious? If he was at the Trump rally would you be saying the same thing? The comparisons both of you made are apples and oranges. The father of a confirmed terrorist who murdered dozens of people was sitting front and center at her rally and you see no problem with that?

In this case, I don't think it matters which side you are on in terms of your political views. The father has known ties to the Taliban. I do not believe for a minute he is not on some watch list. To me, this was a security issue and a breach of security. Everyone should be concerned about that, no matter who you are voting for.

Posted 8/11/16 10:48 AM
 

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Posted by Paramount

Ps. It just came out that Trump had a disgraced GOP
Politician in his gallery (people behind him
In a rally) that likes kiddie porn.

Let's not throw stones shall we.



There is/was apparently a rape case against him. Not sure if this is an active case. With a witness. They said they never came forward because their life were threatened. It was quickly hush hush. I do not know the validity of it but would like to hear more of this story. It would have happened many years ago. Trump and ""forgot his name" were doing lost of parties with very young women. Even underage. That friend was later on charged for something else. Actually to be fair, it was said Clinton may be been hanging in same circles as said friends.

Posted 8/11/16 10:49 AM
 

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Posted by Paramount

Ps. It just came out that Trump had a disgraced GOP
Politician in his gallery (people behind him
In a rally) that Sexually harassed congressional pages. . This was yesterday.

Let's not throw stones shall we.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/mark-foley-donald-trump-226896



I posted about that earlier. It was more than sexual harassment. His alleged victims were underage.

Posted 8/11/16 10:49 AM
 

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Interesting how Trump supporters are concerned about Hillary denying their Second Amendment rights, but I have not heard one issue taken with Trump denying First Amendment rights.

Trump Denies Press Credentials to WP


Posted 8/11/16 11:02 AM
 

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Posted by FirstMate

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by FirstMate

Posted by KarenK122

Trump hates the media because the media hates Trump. They are suppose to be impartial but they are FAR from it. Yes he said a stupid remark about the 2nd Amendment but I also want to know why Hillary was speaking and the father of the Orlando shooter, who has terrorist affiliations, is sitting smack dab behind her on screen. What is that showing and was that even on the news? If it was, definitely it was swept by.




I agree with pretty much everything you wrote but I wanted to highlight this. I was beyond disturbed by the lack of media coverage of the Orlando shooter's dad. This morning I was watching the news and they were going on and on and on about Trump encouraging HRC be assassinated by the 2nd amendment supporters. Then, they briefly mention that the Orlando shooter's father was in the crowd at the HRC rally. It was basically, "Mateens father sat front and center. HRC's camp said she had no idea. Now to the weather." I was stunned that such a story was glossed over.

First of all, how could a known terrorist's father get into a political function like that with all of the secret service, etc.? You can not tell me that the dad is not on some watch list. His son, after pledging allegiance to ISIS, killed 50 people and injured another 50+ and he just shows up and is granted entry to that event? Secondly, how does the news just mention that in passing, like it was no biggie? Who invited him there? How did he get in? If HRC truly had no idea he was there, this is a serious security issue. Why wasn't that discussed in the story? If that was Trump and he gave that same response, it would be the only thing spoken about for days on end.

I'm really fed up with the media this election. It is so hard to get a real idea of what is going on because the media is so slanted. I would love to learn more about the third party candidates but it certainly isn't going to be through the news channels because they certainly get no air time.



I had heard about the father being at the rally but didn't care enough to look into it further. I agree it's in poor taste but last I heard, he didn't commit the act of terrorism so I guess I just don't see what the hoopla would be about, unless there's something I missed about him being involved in the shooting. Meanwhile, ex-congressman Mark Foley was at a trump rally and he himself was involved in a child molestation scandal while in congress. So I guess I just don't understand why the Orlando shooters father is a big deal but a child molester isn't. Again, unless I missed something and he was directly involved other than being his father.




I was thinking the same thing.

Just because this man's son shot up a club does that mean he's to be held responsible for his GROWN ADULT son's actions?? Years ago my DH worked with a man (a VERY hard working good employee) whose son broke into a home and killed the homeowner. Should he have not held a job or gone into the world anymore because of the crimes of his son??? So I guess I too cannot understand why the father of the Orlando shooter cannot still live his life, have an opinion, and support a candidate despite what his son did.

Am I missing something too?



Are you ladies serious? If he was at the Trump rally would you be saying the same thing? The comparisons both of you made are apples and oranges. The father of a confirmed terrorist who murdered dozens of people was sitting front and center at her rally and you see no problem with that?

In this case, I don't think it matters which side you are on in terms of your political views. The father has known ties to the Taliban. I do not believe for a minute he is not on some watch list. To me, this was a security issue and a breach of security. Everyone should be concerned about that, no matter who you are voting for.



I would've said the EXACT same thing had he been at a Trump rally. Again, I hadn't read up on him and I wouldn't assume just because his son was a piece of $hit he was as well. Given the info about him I do not think he should've been there BUT I also don't think it means HRC (or anyone for that matter) sympathizes and sides with terrorists.

Posted 8/11/16 11:08 AM
 

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Re: Trump. And you STILL want to vote for him????

Posted by FirstMate

Are you ladies serious? If he was at the Trump rally would you be saying the same thing? The comparisons both of you made are apples and oranges. The father of a confirmed terrorist who murdered dozens of people was sitting front and center at her rally and you see no problem with that?

In this case, I don't think it matters which side you are on in terms of your political views. The father has known ties to the Taliban. I do not believe for a minute he is not on some watch list. To me, this was a security issue and a breach of security. Everyone should be concerned about that, no matter who you are voting for.



I'm all over the internet right now trying to find anything that confirms he was an invited guest and I'm finding nothing, further, I did find something saying Clinton disavows his support.

Posted 8/11/16 11:09 AM
 
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