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LittleDiva
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Vaccine passports
Yay or nay?
For me, nay. Vaccine is still experimental. We don’t know how long the vaccine even lasts. We don’t know if you can still spread COVID with it (makes is pretty useless to use it as a basis to enter indoor crowded places) We can’t have ID for voting but need this to go places? Aren’t minorities a large portion not getting vaccinated....isn’t this racist? Lol
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Posted 3/30/21 1:25 AM |
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Re: Vaccine passports
Nay and yay to all your reasons.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:51 AM |
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Naturalmama
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Vaccine passports
I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Just pointing out that more and more studies are proving that the vaccine prevents transmission in 90% of cases. There is another thread on here with a link to the article. Also, it is not racist if minorities are being offered the vaccine but are choosing not to take it. Everyone, regardless of race, is eligible for the vaccine.
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Posted 3/30/21 2:05 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Vaccine passports
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
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Posted 3/30/21 2:20 AM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by LittleDiva
Yay or nay?
For me, nay. Vaccine is still experimental. We don’t know how long the vaccine even lasts. We don’t know if you can still spread COVID with it (makes is pretty useless to use it as a basis to enter indoor crowded places) We can’t have ID for voting but need this to go places? Aren’t minorities a large portion not getting vaccinated....isn’t this racist? Lol
Hell to the NAY! For all the reasons you stated and then some. I don't understand how anyone can be onboard with this?? I mean this is an experimental vaccine no matter which way you want to cut it the truth is thankfully most people recover fully from COVID. We don't even know how long the vaccine works or how effective it is in fighting COVID so we are we jumping so quickly to mandate vaccine passports? The vaccine should be totally optional for those who want it. Mandating vaccine passports is a HUGE slippery slope.
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Posted 3/30/21 2:41 AM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
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Posted 3/30/21 2:49 AM |
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Mrs213
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by LittleDiva
Yay or nay?
For me, nay. Vaccine is still experimental. We don’t know how long the vaccine even lasts. We don’t know if you can still spread COVID with it (makes is pretty useless to use it as a basis to enter indoor crowded places) We can’t have ID for voting but need this to go places? Aren’t minorities a large portion not getting vaccinated....isn’t this racist? Lol
Hell to the NAY! For all the reasons you stated and then some. I don't understand how anyone can be onboard with this?? I mean this is an experimental vaccine no matter which way you want to cut it the truth is thankfully most people recover fully from COVID. We don't even know how long the vaccine works or how effective it is in fighting COVID so we are we jumping so quickly to mandate vaccine passports? The vaccine should be totally optional for those who want it. Mandating vaccine passports is a HUGE slippery slope.
Do you have a link to any article saying this is going to be mandated?
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Posted 3/30/21 2:53 AM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by LittleDiva
Yay or nay?
For me, nay. Vaccine is still experimental. We don’t know how long the vaccine even lasts. We don’t know if you can still spread COVID with it (makes is pretty useless to use it as a basis to enter indoor crowded places) We can’t have ID for voting but need this to go places? Aren’t minorities a large portion not getting vaccinated....isn’t this racist? Lol
Hell to the NAY! For all the reasons you stated and then some. I don't understand how anyone can be onboard with this?? I mean this is an experimental vaccine no matter which way you want to cut it the truth is thankfully most people recover fully from COVID. We don't even know how long the vaccine works or how effective it is in fighting COVID so we are we jumping so quickly to mandate vaccine passports? The vaccine should be totally optional for those who want it. Mandating vaccine passports is a HUGE slippery slope.
Do you have a link to any article saying this is going to be mandated?
Obviously this is all in the developmental stage but what purpose would a vaccine passport have if the vaccine is not mandated? Logically, I mean then why would you even need a passport if its not mandated to have the vaccine.?
And if its not mandated then we can carry on as usual no vaccine passport needed right but on the flip side if you want people to carry a vaccine passport its reasonable to assume that at some point you want to mandate people having the vaccine to participate in whatever social activity they want the passport to be available for...
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Posted 3/30/21 3:14 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Vaccine passports
From what I see it's vaccine proof OR a negative test. Yankees Stadium is having opening day this week and allowing fans at the game...with proof of vaccine OR a negative test.
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Posted 3/30/21 3:20 AM |
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KarenK122
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Vaccine passports
I have no problem with it. I do think that if someone doesn't want the vaccine if the give proof of a negative test, that is fine as well.
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Posted 3/30/21 4:52 AM |
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Vaccine passports
How long will these passports be required? Forever or until the numbers go down?
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Posted 3/30/21 11:53 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
You do realize that the only way we're EVER going to get back to any semblance of normal is if the majority of the population is vaccinated, right? Masks and social distancing can't be the only solution forever, it's not practical. But a vaccine is a game changer as they have been throughout medical history. It's nice not having to worry about polio, mumps, measles, etc isn't it? Over time, COVID will be added to the list of illnesses we don't have to fear death from as well. Hopefully, it's no worse than a flu at some point.
The vaccine has been proven EFFECTIVE. Is it a 100% guarantee? No, but over 90% effective is better than zero.
Personally, I would feel FAR better being at a large gathering of vaccinated people than a gathering of those who aren't. This constant diatribe about the vaccine being experimental and nobody knows how long it'll last is a big "who cares" IMO. It's been shown to work. Period. Whether it works for 6 months, 1 year or longer is irrelevant to most of us because the FACT is, it does in fact work. A vaccine that works at even 90% is better than flying blind with ZERO protection as far as I am concerned.
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Posted 3/30/21 11:56 AM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
You do realize that the only way we're EVER going to get back to any semblance of normal is if the majority of the population is vaccinated, right? Masks and social distancing can't be the only solution forever, it's not practical. But a vaccine is a game changer as they have been throughout medical history. It's nice not having to worry about polio, mumps, measles, etc isn't it? Over time, COVID will be added to the list of illnesses we don't have to fear death from as well. Hopefully, it's no worse than a flu at some point.
The vaccine has been proven EFFECTIVE. Is it a 100% guarantee? No, but over 90% effective is better than zero.
Personally, I would feel FAR better being at a large gathering of vaccinated people than a gathering of those who aren't. This constant diatribe about the vaccine being experimental and nobody knows how long it'll last is a big "who cares" IMO. It's been shown to work. Period. Whether it works for 6 months, 1 year or longer is irrelevant to most of us because the FACT is, it does in fact work. A vaccine that works at even 90% is better than flying blind with ZERO protection as far as I am concerned.
This is a VIRUS.
Normalcy should return when those who NEED to be vaccinated are vaccinated.
We learned to live with flu and we will learn to live with COVID. It’s not going away like polio.
Let’s focus on treatments instead of experimental vaccines.
Normalcy resumes when we can treat it. It’s not going anywhere.
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
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Posted 3/30/21 12:29 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by LittleDiva
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
OMG when I heard that I almost died. It's no wonder this country is the leader in obesity. It's actually embarrassing. Donuts. When obesity and diabetes are a co-morbidity for the very thing they are vaccinating for. Jesus Christ.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:00 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
You do realize that the only way we're EVER going to get back to any semblance of normal is if the majority of the population is vaccinated, right? Masks and social distancing can't be the only solution forever, it's not practical. But a vaccine is a game changer as they have been throughout medical history. It's nice not having to worry about polio, mumps, measles, etc isn't it? Over time, COVID will be added to the list of illnesses we don't have to fear death from as well. Hopefully, it's no worse than a flu at some point.
The vaccine has been proven EFFECTIVE. Is it a 100% guarantee? No, but over 90% effective is better than zero.
Personally, I would feel FAR better being at a large gathering of vaccinated people than a gathering of those who aren't. This constant diatribe about the vaccine being experimental and nobody knows how long it'll last is a big "who cares" IMO. It's been shown to work. Period. Whether it works for 6 months, 1 year or longer is irrelevant to most of us because the FACT is, it does in fact work. A vaccine that works at even 90% is better than flying blind with ZERO protection as far as I am concerned.
This is a VIRUS.
Normalcy should return when those who NEED to be vaccinated are vaccinated.
We learned to live with flu and we will learn to live with COVID. It’s not going away like polio.
Let’s focus on treatments instead of experimental vaccines.
Normalcy resumes when we can treat it. It’s not going anywhere.
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
Everyone NEEDS to be vaccinated. NOBODY is immune from getting sick no matter how healthy you think you are.
I find it very odd that you keep railing against a vaccine that has been shown to be effective in preventing someone from contracting COVID in the first place as well as minimizing symptoms should you get sick BUT yet you're all for medical intervention to treat COVID. Treatment is great, we should have that, but a vaccine that can prevent illness in the first place is far more beneficial IMO.
Nobody thinks COVID will go away, the hope is that it becomes just another virus that you don't have to worry about. Right now, COVID isn't like a flu. The length of time you're sick is ridiculous and the post-COVID health effects are scary and can be lengthy if not permanent.
I agree, we need effective treatments, but a vaccine is a far better defense against COVID.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:06 PM |
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Diane
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by NervousNell
From what I see it's vaccine proof OR a negative test. Yankees Stadium is having opening day this week and allowing fans at the game...with proof of vaccine OR a negative test.
Yes, as of April 1st, that will be the case. We are going to a hockey game tomorrow, and all I have to show is proof of vaccination, PCR test 72 hours, or a rapid test 6 hours prior to game now.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:31 PM |
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Diane
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
OMG when I heard that I almost died. It's no wonder this country is the leader in obesity. It's actually embarrassing. Donuts. When obesity and diabetes are a co-morbidity for the very thing they are vaccinating for. Jesus Christ.
OMG, I know. I would rather have a free coffee.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:32 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
You do realize that the only way we're EVER going to get back to any semblance of normal is if the majority of the population is vaccinated, right? Masks and social distancing can't be the only solution forever, it's not practical. But a vaccine is a game changer as they have been throughout medical history. It's nice not having to worry about polio, mumps, measles, etc isn't it? Over time, COVID will be added to the list of illnesses we don't have to fear death from as well. Hopefully, it's no worse than a flu at some point.
The vaccine has been proven EFFECTIVE. Is it a 100% guarantee? No, but over 90% effective is better than zero.
Personally, I would feel FAR better being at a large gathering of vaccinated people than a gathering of those who aren't. This constant diatribe about the vaccine being experimental and nobody knows how long it'll last is a big "who cares" IMO. It's been shown to work. Period. Whether it works for 6 months, 1 year or longer is irrelevant to most of us because the FACT is, it does in fact work. A vaccine that works at even 90% is better than flying blind with ZERO protection as far as I am concerned.
I don’t take a flu shot either. I believe in building a strong healthy immune system
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Posted 3/30/21 1:33 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by Diane
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
OMG when I heard that I almost died. It's no wonder this country is the leader in obesity. It's actually embarrassing. Donuts. When obesity and diabetes are a co-morbidity for the very thing they are vaccinating for. Jesus Christ.
OMG, I know. I would rather have a free coffee.
It's embarrassing that when they want to incentivize us fat, unhealthy, Americans to do something, they have to use a donut.
Not a free month's gym membership or something or a free salad for a year.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:41 PM |
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Naturalmama
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Vaccine passports
I don't think the vaccine will ever be mandatory to get in anywhere. It will be the vaccine OR a negative PCR test. So just test if you would like to go to a concert, Broadway show, on an airplane, etc. I currently know of a 47 year old woman in the hospital with COVID, not on a ventilator but came close. She is in the ICU. She is not obese, does not drink or smoke, just received a clean bill of health at her yearly physical. She takes very good care of her health and does a lot to build a strong immune system. COVID attacked her anyway. I have zero opinion on vaccine passports. I truly don't care either way. However, the misconception that this virus can't attack young, healthy people is plain wrong. I truly don't care if you get the vaccine- doesn't affect my life. But people need to understand the severity of this illness when making that decision for themselves and their family.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:54 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by Hofstra26
For large venues where hundreds to thousands will gather...............absolutely yay. I have no problem with it.
You do know that they are not sure if being vaccinated means that you cannot get or transmit COVID right? One of my friends was fully vaccinated, 2nd shot, 3 weeks post vaccination and STILL contracted COVID. She also got really sick despite being vaccinated and fairly young (42). She was actually really upset because she is a strong advocate for the vaccine and super careful (masks, wash hands, etc). So even AFTER being vaccinated she still got COVID and not a mild version either.
Her going into a venue with a vaccine passport and a false sense of security would have totally done no one any good if they came into contact with her. I'm not saying the vaccine is ineffective but I am saying it's still experimental and new. I don't get why people are so quick to mandate a vaccine passport for a virus that is still fairly new and a vaccine that is even more new? COVID testing prior to being in a venue with a large amount of people is absolutely acceptable and makes sense but segregating people based on whether or not they got an experimental vaccine is totally ludicrous IMO
You do realize that the only way we're EVER going to get back to any semblance of normal is if the majority of the population is vaccinated, right? Masks and social distancing can't be the only solution forever, it's not practical. But a vaccine is a game changer as they have been throughout medical history. It's nice not having to worry about polio, mumps, measles, etc isn't it? Over time, COVID will be added to the list of illnesses we don't have to fear death from as well. Hopefully, it's no worse than a flu at some point.
The vaccine has been proven EFFECTIVE. Is it a 100% guarantee? No, but over 90% effective is better than zero.
Personally, I would feel FAR better being at a large gathering of vaccinated people than a gathering of those who aren't. This constant diatribe about the vaccine being experimental and nobody knows how long it'll last is a big "who cares" IMO. It's been shown to work. Period. Whether it works for 6 months, 1 year or longer is irrelevant to most of us because the FACT is, it does in fact work. A vaccine that works at even 90% is better than flying blind with ZERO protection as far as I am concerned.
I don’t take a flu shot either. I believe in building a strong healthy immune system
A healthy immune system is wonderful but it doesn't make you invincible. MANY perfectly healthy people have contracted COVID, some even died.
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Posted 3/30/21 1:58 PM |
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JennP
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Diane
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
OMG when I heard that I almost died. It's no wonder this country is the leader in obesity. It's actually embarrassing. Donuts. When obesity and diabetes are a co-morbidity for the very thing they are vaccinating for. Jesus Christ.
OMG, I know. I would rather have a free coffee.
It's embarrassing that when they want to incentivize us fat, unhealthy, Americans to do something, they have to use a donut.
Not a free month's gym membership or something or a free salad for a year.
Just adding some clarity because this reads like they are giving out donuts at the vaccination sites.
This is an offer by Krispy Kreme. It's a marketing gimmick. They sell donuts. They aren't going to give away salads.
If you don't want the free donut, don't go to Krispy Kreme.
Anyone who feels strongly about this might want to contact their favorite healthy establishment to see if they can also make an offer.
I agree we have issues with obesity in this country, but I don't think the fault lies with the innovation of Krispy Kreme's marketing department. Those issues run deep and are way beyond the scope of this convo.
To answer the original question, I have no problem with the passport.
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Posted 3/30/21 2:23 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
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Re: Vaccine passports
Posted by JennP
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Diane
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Let’s focus on being healthy. I’m appalled that they are offering free donuts to those who are vaccinated. We are such an unhealthy country. Half of those at risk probably wouldn’t be at risk if they changed their lifestyle. Instead let’s experiment on them and give them free donuts for a year.
OMG when I heard that I almost died. It's no wonder this country is the leader in obesity. It's actually embarrassing. Donuts. When obesity and diabetes are a co-morbidity for the very thing they are vaccinating for. Jesus Christ.
OMG, I know. I would rather have a free coffee.
It's embarrassing that when they want to incentivize us fat, unhealthy, Americans to do something, they have to use a donut.
Not a free month's gym membership or something or a free salad for a year.
Just adding some clarity because this reads like they are giving out donuts at the vaccination sites.
This is an offer by Krispy Kreme. It's a marketing gimmick. They sell donuts. They aren't going to give away salads.
If you don't want the free donut, don't go to Krispy Kreme.
Anyone who feels strongly about this might want to contact their favorite healthy establishment to see if they can also make an offer.
I agree we have issues with obesity in this country, but I don't think the fault lies with the innovation of Krispy Kreme's marketing department. Those issues run deep and are way beyond the scope of this convo.
To answer the original question, I have no problem with the passport.
Yes, I am fully aware of that. I know it's a Krispy Kreme marketing thing. Just ironic is all. All you have to do is look at the drive thrus of all the major fast food places and how long the lines are to see the why this country is so unhealthy. But then it's ok because the pharmaceutical companies are more than willing to push a drug at you to fix it. Type 2 Diabetes is easily curable through diet. But it's easier to pop a pill and keep eating like shit. Same with cholesterol meds.
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Posted 3/30/21 2:27 PM |
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seaside
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Re: Vaccine passports
No problem with vaccine passports. Places that would require them will have to make up their own minds about whether, when, and how to require vaccination. I don't agree with telling those who have been vaccinated that they are being "experimented on."
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Posted 3/30/21 2:39 PM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: Vaccine passports
You can't compare voting which is a right to things which are privately run and voluntary.
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