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Rycois
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
I feel like most people think it refers to vaginal. When asked how I delivered, I usually say that I had a drug-free delivery to avoid the confusion. For me, natural = unmedicated and vaginally.
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by CrankyPants
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to me a natural delivery is how the mother wants it...
i had a C section but to me that is a natural delivery.
i never wanted to go into labor, i never wanted a vaginal baby, i never wanted to contract, i never wanted my water to break... when i found out i was 1st preg with DS the 1st thing i asked my dr bc my sono was will you do an elective C and he said yes... if he had said no, i would have looked for another OB
natural delivery is how the mommy wants it.
I respectfully disagree...but i kinda see what u mean
I disagree as well.
Same here
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headoverheels
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
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| Posted 5/15/09 2:26 PM |
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Non medicated is natural. In other words, if you were out in the woods, you would have delivered the baby like that on your own.
If someone could do a c-section without pain medication, I wouldn't call it natural though. I'd call it amazing, but not natural.
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| Posted 5/15/09 2:28 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
I wouldn't use the term "unnatural" to describe any birth. While I had an unmedicated v-birth, I also would have died in childbirth had a doctor not been there to stop the bleeding. That's also the way nature intended.
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by Gatsbygirl
Vaginal with no drugs
Exactly, and that is what happened with me
Non medicated, vaginal delivery.
ETA: I did end up in the hospital but
no time for anything.
I felt it ALL!
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eddiesmommy
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
the "as it occurs in nature" was my post and I had a vag delivery with an epi? Its not saying that its wrong or you took an easy way out. It in no way is meant to lessen the value or meaning of your birth. By definition, natural is "as it occurs in nature". Not right or wrong, or meant to be hurtful, it just is what it is.
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
I understand they may be hurt, but it doesn't make it less true.
you can "think" of things however you like, however fantastical they may be...but reality is reality. and it is what it is.
personally, I am praying for a vaginal birth. I could care less what anyone wants to call it. and if I need drugs so be it....like press on nails and breast implants, sometimes improvements on nature are good and necessary  
ETA: I also agree with Barb. once your are in the hosptial, under the care of a physcian, anything they do to alter anything that could possibly happen kinda takes "natural" out of it.
unless you have a baby in your bed with a bucket of hot water and a midwife, you are taking the "nature" aspect out.
and that doesn't, and shouldn't, minimize ANY part of anything a mother goes through to bring her child to the world.
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browneyedgirl
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
there was nothing unnatural about DS's birth because i had meds. i had a NATURAL birth experience with meds.
i consider any vaginal delivery natural.
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| Posted 5/15/09 2:49 PM |
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
I think "natural" is unmedicated vaginal. Something I hope to never have  My epi wore off with ds. You can be damn sure this time I will make sure they know as soon as it starts wearing off so I can get a boost. I no way no how want to feel like I did when ds was born. Given my issues nature never intended me to have kids. Science helped me out to get pregnant and I intend for science to see me through the delivery
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dm24angel
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Natural is no medication.
A vaginal birth with an epidural for instance is not a "natural" birth, it is a medicated "assisted" birth.
I HATE when people say vaginal deliveries are natural when they had med's. Maybe b/c I tried so hard to have a natural birth, the word meant something to me and it mattered more.
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| Posted 5/15/09 3:30 PM |
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Grill
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
I consider both drugs and procedures to be "high tech" in that they demand the precision of science and medical skill to execute them safely. Therefore, IMO, "natural delivery" is the absence of high tech interventions. With or without intervention though, childbirth is the most natural thing a woman can do besides die. The term "natural delivery" is just a classification or label placed on the method of delivery and not on the process of becoming a mother at all. Going natural or medicated or cesarean is just a means to a very natural end.
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| Posted 5/15/09 4:31 PM |
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Rycois
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Following up on this, I know someone who was induced with pitocin but did not have an epi, and labels it a natural birth. Do you consider this natural? To me, there was medical intervention and drugs involved.
Not that I care what she wants to call her own delivery, but I was curious if this is in the "grey" area of natural.
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| Posted 5/15/09 4:56 PM |
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chelle
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by beachgirl
No drugs. But I know a lot of moms will they say they had a natural delivery because they delivered vaginally.
I agree with you. I hear a lot of mom's talking about how they went natural...when in fact, they had drugs.
A vaginal delivery does not mean "natural" (if you had an EPI)
A "natural delivery" = absolutely NO DRUGS.
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CrankyPants
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by SweetCaroline
Following up on this, I know someone who was induced with pitocin but did not have an epi, and labels it a natural birth. Do you consider this natural? To me, there was medical intervention and drugs involved.
Not that I care what she wants to call her own delivery, but I was curious if this is in the "grey" area of natural.
No, I call that the worst pain imaginable!
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donegal419
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
to me, it means NO medication or painkillers of any kind... and obviously a vaginal delivery.
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Disneygirl
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
I understand they may be hurt, but it doesn't make it less true.
you can "think" of things however you like, however fantastical they may be...but reality is reality. and it is what it is.
personally, I am praying for a vaginal birth. I could care less what anyone wants to call it. and if I need drugs so be it....like press on nails and breast implants, sometimes improvements on nature are good and necessary
ETA: I also agree with Barb. once your are in the hosptial, under the care of a physcian, anything they do to alter anything that could possibly happen kinda takes "natural" out of it.
unless you have a baby in your bed with a bucket of hot water and a midwife, you are taking the "nature" aspect out.
and that doesn't, and shouldn't, minimize ANY part of anything a mother goes through to bring her child to the world.
Well said. "Natural" births are a very rare occurence nowadays which is why I feel the definition has evolved over the years. I feel like some women loosely use this term because they think they'll get extra brownie points or something while others use it because they'll blush if they say the word vaginal.
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| Posted 5/15/09 5:26 PM |
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Rycois
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by Disneygirl
Well said. "Natural" births are a very rare occurence nowadays which is why I feel the definition has evolved over the years. I feel like some women loosely use this term because they think they'll get extra brownie points or something while others use it because they'll blush if they say the word vaginal.
I agree. Natural def. is a less embarassing word than vaginal
I remember when my friend gave birth, her husband, whom I have little to no relationship, sent a text to me:
"We had a boy. She had a natural birth with some pretty bad vaginal tearing, but enjoyed her epi". I thought - geez, that's TMI for her DH to share with me, and sort of an oxymoron.
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| Posted 5/15/09 5:35 PM |
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Janice
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by SweetCaroline
Following up on this, I know someone who was induced with pitocin but did not have an epi, and labels it a natural birth. Do you consider this natural? To me, there was medical intervention and drugs involved.
Not that I care what she wants to call her own delivery, but I was curious if this is in the "grey" area of natural.
that was my sister's situation.
she is a complete granola mom, 12 days late.
They induced her with one dose...that was it for drugs. She labored hard and was in hell for hours, but no pain meds.
She considers it natural...I would not want to be in the room if someone told her different
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MrsRbk
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by Disneygirl
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
zactly...the same way every other animal does it.
any variation of that is NOT natural.
i see what you are saying... but honestly, i think that a lot of women who had a vaginal birth with an epi (or any other assistance) would be a bit hurt of someone told them they had an UNnatrual birth.
I understand they may be hurt, but it doesn't make it less true.
you can "think" of things however you like, however fantastical they may be...but reality is reality. and it is what it is.
personally, I am praying for a vaginal birth. I could care less what anyone wants to call it. and if I need drugs so be it....like press on nails and breast implants, sometimes improvements on nature are good and necessary
ETA: I also agree with Barb. once your are in the hosptial, under the care of a physcian, anything they do to alter anything that could possibly happen kinda takes "natural" out of it.
unless you have a baby in your bed with a bucket of hot water and a midwife, you are taking the "nature" aspect out.
and that doesn't, and shouldn't, minimize ANY part of anything a mother goes through to bring her child to the world.
Well said. "Natural" births are a very rare occurence nowadays which is why I feel the definition has evolved over the years. I feel like some women loos ely use this term because they think they'll get extra brownie points or something while others use it because they'll blush if they say the word vaginal.
They are not as rare as you might think! I know MANY women who have had drug free natural births. I am not one of them however! I actually surprised myself and did not take any pain meds other than the epi. I was all for going into labor and taking any drug they were going to give me to me to take away the pain, but the epi for me was more than enough and I did try to labor as long as I could without it. Although I was induced and the contractions on pitocin were crazy insane/intense and I only last an hour before asking for the epi.
To answer the OP's question, when I hear natural delivery, I think it's a delivery without any meds.
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nbc188
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
To me, a "natural delivery" means NO drugs...which therefore would mean (to me) a vaginal birth, since you obviously need medications during a c-section.
Cervadil, Pitocin, Epidural = assistance = not a "natural" delivery-- NOT judging AT ALL, I had Pitocin and Demerol (although I did NOT consent to it, whole other story  ) but no epidural.
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
question: why do people than ask if it was a natural or a c-section when in fact more often nowadays it's actually vaginal with drugs?
And I get the embarassment thing. This week a girl i work with had a baby and I asked someone "was it natural or c-section?" and the response was "natural" to which 3 other woman jumped down her throat and pointed out that she had an epi. And so I clarified by saying vaginal and as it was coming out of my mouth i started to feel a little uncomfortable, especially since there were men around.
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
vaginal and non medicated.
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| Posted 5/15/09 6:47 PM |
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staceyd
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
I agree that natural births are rare.. the epi is not the only drug that is given for vaginal birth these days... what I think the PP was referring to is the doctors using things like cervadil or pitocin to speed labor and delivery along.. those would count towards a birth being considered unnatural.. If a natural birth means NO DRUGS than those are included as well.. it would be unfair to say you had a natural birth with pitocin and someone who had an epi would be considered to not have a natural birth...
When I went for birthing classes the nurse told us that if you want a natural birth, dont come to the hospital.. there is nothing natural about having the baby in the hospital.. there are many things they do to intervene and make things "unnatural"... while I do not 100% agree with her assessment, I do think NATURAL birth means NO DRUGS!!!!
Edited to add: I was given pitocin, I had an epi, and I had an assisted vaginal birth due to the cord around DDs neck, she had to be sucked out.. there is nothing wrong for not having a "natural" birth.. you went through 9 months of carrying the baby, and you delivered it...
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Re: What does the term "natural delivery" mean to you?
Posted by bellaluna
Posted by eddiesmommy
to me, natural is, as it occurs in nature. So a non-medicated vaginal birth.
ITA
agreed. "natural" to me means as nature intended, which is vaginally with no drugs.
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