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blu6385
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When will this all end???!!!
when are we allowed to go back to normal, with not having to wear masks, restaurants can be fully opened, movie theaters, sports, schools etc?
What needs to be achieved? How does this end?
Why are these questions so hard to answer? To me there has to be something they are looking for to say ok its all good we can go back to living our normal daily lives. The answer of, they dont know should not be acceptable at this point. they have to be looking for something!!
I asked the governors office and the response was generic and gave no answer.
Herd immunity? In the conference today they said they dont know if thats effective and how long people are really immune to it. So seems like thats not the answer.
Are they hoping its going to go away on its own?
Is it the vaccine (which I asked when i send the message to the governors office) ?
I think if they were actually clear on what needs to happen to say ok we can go back to normal; people would probably more willing to cooperate and be less resistant on listening to what rules are being in place.
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SLPRunner
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When will this all end???!!!
I don't have an answer, but today the Governor said that an outbreak in other parts of the country, is an outbreak here. So there would at least need to be decreased transmission of the virus in the rest of the country. It only takes one case of someone not wearing the mask and spreading the virus to a large number of people at a large gathering to start more community spread. I think we need to continue being vigilant for the time being.
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BFNY516
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When will this all end???!!!
People need to listen to scientists and wear masks and continue socially distancing.
This could have been much more controlled and we could have been resuming life starting now, but too many resisted and listened to politicians and not researchers.
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| Posted 7/20/20 3:04 PM |
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Funkybutt
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When will this all end???!!!
I would assume, that to completely go back to the way things were before - there would need to be an effective vaccine that has been proven to last. I think they had hoped that the antibodies would be a key factor, but since some people are able to get it again, that's not a given anymore.
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KateBennetReel
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by BFNY516
People need to listen to scientists and wear masks and continue socially distancing.
This could have been much more controlled and we could have been resuming life starting now, but too many resisted and listened to politicians and not researchers.
Agreed.
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| Posted 7/20/20 3:08 PM |
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busymomonli
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When will this all end???!!!
I don't think anyone really knows the answer to your question. Some people who are positive for the virus are negative for antibodies, and vice versa. Some people are getting the virus twice. I don't think herd immunity will be achieved. A vaccine could be much further in the future, and some people will not want it because it wasn't tested enough. I think theres a chance this won't go away and will become more like influenza, which happens every year in different strains.
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BFNY516
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When will this all end???!!!
Most of the country is a sea of red representing CoVid cases simply because the administration has convinced many people that science isn’t real, news is fake, masks are just a form of control, and Fauci and researchers are the enemy of the people.
It’s too late.
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| Posted 7/20/20 3:13 PM |
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RainyDay
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
when are we allowed to go back to normal, with not having to wear
I think if they were actually clear on what needs to happen to say ok we can go back to normal; people would probably more willing to cooperate and be less resistant on listening to what rules are being in place.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the news much. The message is pretty clear to me. Stay away from large crowds, minimize get together and wear a freaking mask until this dies down.
People don't want to hear that so they ignore all the warnings and now we are left with this. You have been warned and told what needs to be done.
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by KateBennetReel
Posted by BFNY516
People need to listen to scientists and wear masks and continue socially distancing.
This could have been much more controlled and we could have been resuming life starting now, but too many resisted and listened to politicians and not researchers.
Agreed.
This.
Also, your question “are they hoping it will go away on its own?” The only people who think this are the president and his cult-like followers. Based on your post, not sure if this includes you.
Regardless, wear a mask, socially distance, and start believing scientists.
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Jacquelina
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by blu6385
when are we allowed to go back to normal, with not having to wear
I think if they were actually clear on what needs to happen to say ok we can go back to normal; people would probably more willing to cooperate and be less resistant on listening to what rules are being in place.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the news much. The message is pretty clear to me. Stay away from large crowds, minimize get together and wear a freaking mask until this dies down.
People don't want to hear that so they ignore all the warnings and now we are left with this. You have been warned and told what needs to be done.
This...
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blu6385
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
No going to quote everyone but no one really answered the question or maybe they did.
No i am not a trump supporter. To assume i dont no listen to what we are being told to do is just plain rude to put it nicely!
So everyone listens and it will just go away on its own? but yet people here say that's not what going to happen it will still be here
is it a vaccine then come out and just say that if that is the answer!!
But again there is no reason there is not an answer!
Either its going to be like this forever or after we get to XX amount of non positive/positive (however it should be looked at)cases world wide, in United States etc. then we can say its over with?
If there is an answer to this and I just seem to keep missing it please point me to the source.
Not just everyone needs to listen because that is still not answering a question on what targets/metrics etc. that need to be hit for it be considered over!
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ap123
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
No going to quote everyone but no one really answered the question or maybe they did.
No i am not a trump supporter. To assume i dont no listen to what we are being told to do is just plain rude to put it nicely!
So everyone listens and it will just go away on its own? but yet people here say that's not what going to happen it will still be here
is it a vaccine then come out and just say that if that is the answer!!
But again there is no reason there is not an answer!
Either its going to be like this forever or after we get to XX amount of non positive/positive (however it should be looked at)cases world wide, in United States etc. then we can say its over with?
If there is an answer to this and I just seem to keep missing it please point me to the source.
Not just everyone needs to listen because that is still not answering a question on what targets/metrics etc. that need to be hit for it be considered over!
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
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blu6385
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by ap123
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
how can I not? I am not asking for a specific date. I am looking for what metrics needs to be hit or if its that we cant go back to normal till there is a vaccine.
Why is this difficult. I am sure scientists or someone has what they need to see for this to be over and where can one find that and why is it not just communicated?
Maybe it is and I just dont know where to look for it!
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PitterPatter11
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
Posted by ap123
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
how can I not? I am not asking for a specific date. I am looking for what metrics needs to be hit or if its that we cant go back to normal till there is a vaccine.
Why is this difficult. I am sure scientists or someone has what they need to see for this to be over and where can one find that and why is it not just communicated?
Maybe it is and I just dont know where to look for it!
I’ve seen 14 days of no new cases in your country as a standard. That’s obviously not happening anytime soon in the US.
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LittleDiva
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When will this all end???!!!
There is no answer. We are learning how to treat this. The death rate is astronomically lower and it’s no longer a death sentence. It NEEDS to end soon.
Honestly, if we tested like this during flu season you would be amazed at the amount of positive cases there would be. Flu kills children and we don’t shut down like this, I just don’t get why we are dragging this out and mentally scarring children. We have made leaps and bounds in our knowledge of this virus yet we have no answer as to what criteria will put an end to this way of “living”.
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jlm2008
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
Posted by ap123
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
how can I not? I am not asking for a specific date. I am looking for what metrics needs to be hit or if its that we cant go back to normal till there is a vaccine.
Why is this difficult. I am sure scientists or someone has what they need to see for this to be over and where can one find that and why is it not just communicated?
Maybe it is and I just dont know where to look for it!
I think that's the problem, you are looking to go back to normal and I don't think we are. Maybe waayyyyy in the future, but honestly I don't see that happening anytime soon. We have never had a vaccine for a corona virus. Flu vaccines are rarely effective. People as a whole don't want to listen to science and social distance and wear masks because they are selfish. I think the best we can hope for is that as years pass the strain lessons and people won't develop all these long term problems, with the heart, lungs, liver etc that they are beginning to see. Also if this world is still in existence another 50 years I'd be shocked. But who knows??
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by Jacquelina
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by blu6385
when are we allowed to go back to normal, with not having to wear
I think if they were actually clear on what needs to happen to say ok we can go back to normal; people would probably more willing to cooperate and be less resistant on listening to what rules are being in place.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the news much. The message is pretty clear to me. Stay away from large crowds, minimize get together and wear a freaking mask until this dies down.
People don't want to hear that so they ignore all the warnings and now we are left with this. You have been warned and told what needs to be done.
This...
Yep.
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blu6385
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by blu6385
Posted by ap123
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
how can I not? I am not asking for a specific date. I am looking for what metrics needs to be hit or if its that we cant go back to normal till there is a vaccine.
Why is this difficult. I am sure scientists or someone has what they need to see for this to be over and where can one find that and why is it not just communicated?
Maybe it is and I just dont know where to look for it!
I’ve seen 14 days of no new cases in your country as a standard. That’s obviously not happening anytime soon in the US.
thank you!! This is the answer I am looking for!
Granted it sucks because you are right it wont happen any time soon but at least this some kind of answer!
Granted maybe there are other answers but this is the type I feel that scientist, officials who ever is making these calls should have and communicate out to everyone!!
ETA: again if there is somewhere I should be looking please tell me where cause when i google it I am not finding it (and its probably cause I am not asking google the correct way!!)
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When will this all end???!!!
I think your question is a totally fair and legitimate one, but unfortunately you’re not going to get an unbiased discussion going here on LIF. You’re not allowed to even dare raise such questions without being called a selfish Trump supporter.
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by blu6385
Posted by ap123
How can you expect anyone to have an answer for this when it’s a virus we’ve never seen before? No one knows how it ends, that’s why there is no clear cut path to this.
It’s not like someone is doing this to us for entertainment! There’s a virus that is spreading, there is no vaccine, we don’t know when there will be, we don’t know how effective it will, or who will take it. Until schools open we don’t know how fast this will spread amongst kids. No one is withholding the “answer”, there is no answer
how can I not? I am not asking for a specific date. I am looking for what metrics needs to be hit or if its that we cant go back to normal till there is a vaccine.
Why is this difficult. I am sure scientists or someone has what they need to see for this to be over and where can one find that and why is it not just communicated?
Maybe it is and I just dont know where to look for it!
I think that's the problem, you are looking to go back to normal and I don't think we are. Maybe waayyyyy in the future, but honestly I don't see that happening anytime soon. We have never had a vaccine for a corona virus. Flu vaccines are rarely effective. People as a whole don't want to listen to science and social distance and wear masks because they are selfish. I think the best we can hope for is that as years pass the strain lessons and people won't develop all these long term problems, with the heart, lungs, liver etc that they are beginning to see. Also if this world is still in existence another 50 years I'd be shocked. But who knows??
Sad but I agree...
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blu6385
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by shadows
I think your question is a totally fair and legitimate one, but unfortunately you’re not going to get an unbiased discussion going here on LIF. You’re not allowed to even dare raise such questions without being called a selfish Trump supporter.
thanks at least some people dont find this post ridiculous.
I dont even really want LIF opinions though I am happy to read them and see other peoples point of view; I want actual facts and I am hoping someone knows where I can find this.
Why some people think this will never end is beyond me.
We survived the Spanish flu in 1918 where we had much less technology and while I hate comparing this to the Spanish flu where technology and sanitzation was mush worse off then they are now.The world survived that I am sure we can survive this!
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shadows
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
Posted by shadows
I think your question is a totally fair and legitimate one, but unfortunately you’re not going to get an unbiased discussion going here on LIF. You’re not allowed to even dare raise such questions without being called a selfish Trump supporter.
thanks at least some people dont find this post ridiculous.
I dont even really want LIF opinions though I am happy to read them and see other peoples point of view; I want actual facts and I am hoping someone knows where I can find this.
Why some people think this will never end is beyond me.
We survived the Spanish flu in 1918 where we had much less technology and while I hate comparing this to the Spanish flu where technology and sanitzation was mush worse off then they are now.The world survived that I am sure we can survive this!
I agree! I’m in MA and our governor says no normal until there’s a vaccine or effective therapy. Not sure what “effective” means exactly lol... but at least he’s trying to give us an idea of what it will take to get back to normal, and I think people appreciate that, whether they agree with it or not.
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BFNY516
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When will this all end???!!!
My answer is that it’s not going to be over. There’s been no comprehensive plan or response and we are flying blind. Now we just hang on and hope for the best.
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My answer is that it’s not going to be over. There’s been no comprehensive plan or response and we are flying blind. Now we just hang on and hope for the best.
To answer you, this will end. But not anytime soon. They are hoping a vaccine will come in another 10-18 months. But a vaccine might not work, enough people might not take it if we do have it.
We need to get down to zero people infected. That's how it works. The spread needs to be squashed.
Bahamas was covid free, they let in infected americans. They had to block us now from coming there and shut down their country again until they can protect their own citizens.
This clearly should have been done here MONTHS AGO. January not April....
so until people follow the rules and stop flocking places without masks, this could possibly end.
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Re: When will this all end???!!!
Posted by blu6385
No going to quote everyone but no one really answered the question or maybe they did.
No i am not a trump supporter. To assume i dont no listen to what we are being told to do is just plain rude to put it nicely!
So everyone listens and it will just go away on its own? but yet people here say that's not what going to happen it will still be here
is it a vaccine then come out and just say that if that is the answer!!
But again there is no reason there is not an answer!
Either its going to be like this forever or after we get to XX amount of non positive/positive (however it should be looked at)cases world wide, in United States etc. then we can say its over with?
If there is an answer to this and I just seem to keep missing it please point me to the source.
Not just everyone needs to listen because that is still not answering a question on what targets/metrics etc. that need to be hit for it be considered over!
There is no answer and she is just being rude to you. Until Coumo feels he has gotten enough attention will he say we can go back to normal.
Positive cases should not determine many things. If they are hospitalizations and deaths then yes there is more of a concern.
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