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When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

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randella
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When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

Sasha is not addicted to her paci, but it helps soothe her in the middle of the night. She also gets pretty crazy out of the swaddle.

Is it counterproductive to sleep train while using these "crutches"? DH thinks so-- but I am not sure. Especially if these items help to soothe her.

I have tried to get her "into" a lovey type item and she has no interest. We try not swaddling her and she goes to sleep, but then wakes up all crazy and calms imediately after being swaddled.

Posted 7/4/09 8:15 AM
 
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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

My boys still use their pacifier, but a word of advice...get rid of the swaddle as soon as possible! I waited WAY too long, and it was a nightmare getting them to sleep without it. We stopped it right after we got home from Disney, a couple days after they turned 7 months old. It's been about 3 weeks since then and they just now are sleeping well without it. My son Charlie even sleeps on his belly now that he can roll over and sleeps so soundly. Get rid of it now, it just gets harder the older they are!

Posted 7/4/09 9:06 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

bump....

Last night was night 5 of sleep training-- and while she only woke up twice, and again at 5 to eat-- that's the pattern she was doing when I originally started sleep training- only to have it get worse before I actually started!

Each time last night, with the exception of 5Am, she needed re-swaddling.

Posted 7/5/09 10:20 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

anyone?

Posted 7/5/09 9:12 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

Well, Jack has outgrown his swaddle but if he didn't I would still use it. I don't think it affects sleep training. As for the paci, I would continue to use it. Its her soother- I WISH Jack would use one!

So yes, I would still do both- the sleep training really just gets them used to soothing without you- at least this how I remember it with my DD. Chat Icon

Posted 7/5/09 9:16 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

DS is not crazy about his Paci, but I do use it sometimes to calm him down if he wakes up in the middle of the night. I took away the swaddle while sleep training. It is so much easier putting him down with out it. Plus, he would break out of his swaddle all the time.
I have only been sleep training for the last week and DS is still waking up at 5/5:30am to eat. He goes back down until about 8:30am though. It is 100% better then it used to be.

Posted 7/5/09 9:52 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

I use a pacifier for both girls. Soon she'll be able to find the pacifier herself, so I do not see the pacifier as a bad thing.
I would stop swaddling though. We stopped swaddling DD #1 at 5 weeks and DD #2 was swaddled until she was about 2 mos.
GL!

Posted 7/5/09 10:11 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

What is sleep training?

I only swaddle DD beneath her arms, and she sleep fine this way. She is too big for it the other way, and it was getting rough bc she woke up every time she broke out of it!

Posted 7/5/09 10:39 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

We had stop the swaddle with DS because when he would get upset and cry he would roll over onto his belly. Now he rolls over on his belly pretty much as soon as we put him down and sleeps very soundly that way.

DD is still swaddled, she is hanging on to that thing for dear life.I am planning on doing a slow transition with her. She does not need CIO, she's a pretty good sleeper, except for when she breaks out of the swaddle


ETA: they both still use the paci. I don't plan on breaking them of it until they are around a year old.

Message edited 7/5/2009 10:43:20 PM.

Posted 7/5/09 10:42 PM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

i don't think a "lovey" will work at sasha's age, since it won't give her any physical comfort (like sucking on a pci or being swaddled). they really don't experience purely emotional comfort until much later.

i personally don't see the harm in continuing to use both while you sleep train if they soothe her. because it seems like too much to try to get her to self-soothe while taking away the two most soothing things, kwim?

i stopped swaddling DS at 4-5 months because he started breaking out of it. it wasn't an issue.

the paci, on the other hand, is going to present a HUGE issue... he still is extremely attached to his at almost 21 months. i've been able to wean it down to only at night, but i'm going to allow it for the next few months since the new baby is coming - poor DS doesn't need any more traumatic transitions...

i figure we'll lose it by the time he's 2 or so...

Posted 7/6/09 7:51 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

Posted by alexlynn7

i don't think a "lovey" will work at sasha's age, since it won't give her any physical comfort (like sucking on a pci or being swaddled). they really don't experience purely emotional comfort until much later.

i personally don't see the harm in continuing to use both while you sleep train if they soothe her. because it seems like too much to try to get her to self-soothe while taking away the two most soothing things, kwim?

i stopped swaddling DS at 4-5 months because he started breaking out of it. it wasn't an issue.

the paci, on the other hand, is going to present a HUGE issue... he still is extremely attached to his at almost 21 months. i've been able to wean it down to only at night, but i'm going to allow it for the next few months since the new baby is coming - poor DS doesn't need any more traumatic transitions...

i figure we'll lose it by the time he's 2 or so...



yeah, I was thinking-- let's get her to sleep through the night, then we can work on weaning from the swaddle. I don't think the paci needs to be taken away any time soon-- she rarely takes one during the day, and the only time is at night to help soothe her to sleep.

She still clearly needs the swaddle though-- since she really does calm down pretty quickly once I start getting her in there. I will try to do the one arm thing first, although-- I am not sure how to do that with the miracle blanket.

It's just so hard since every baby is different-- I am trying to navigate this sleep stuff. DH has strong opinions, but he has never read a sleep book, or a baby book for that matter.

Posted 7/6/09 8:34 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

were struggling with the sleeping as well... DD just turned 5 months. We have gotten her out of the swaddle successfully though... she started breaking out of it about a month ago and would wake herself up. We use that big swaddle me blanket. Its basically just a huge receiving blanket and we wrap her up below her arms just to have a close feeling. She totally got used to her arms being out and it no longer wakes her up (I think).

She was sleeping around 6 hours a night back when she was 2-3 months old, but since 4 months hit we have been struggling with her waking up 3, sometimes 4x a night.

Ped said that it could be teething or just the fact that she is more social... So, when she wakes up she doesn't want to go back to sleep (even if she can self soothe) because she wants to see us.

How have Sasha's naps been lately? Chloe is getting better and she is taking longer morning naps now. Her 1:00 nap was longer yesterday for the first time too.

Posted 7/6/09 8:44 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

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Posted by alexlynn7

i don't think a "lovey" will work at sasha's age, since it won't give her any physical comfort (like sucking on a pci or being swaddled). they really don't experience purely emotional comfort until much later.

i personally don't see the harm in continuing to use both while you sleep train if they soothe her. because it seems like too much to try to get her to self-soothe while taking away the two most soothing things, kwim?

i stopped swaddling DS at 4-5 months because he started breaking out of it. it wasn't an issue.

the paci, on the other hand, is going to present a HUGE issue... he still is extremely attached to his at almost 21 months. i've been able to wean it down to only at night, but i'm going to allow it for the next few months since the new baby is coming - poor DS doesn't need any more traumatic transitions...

i figure we'll lose it by the time he's 2 or so...



yeah, I was thinking-- let's get her to sleep through the night, then we can work on weaning from the swaddle. I don't think the paci needs to be taken away any time soon-- she rarely takes one during the day, and the only time is at night to help soothe her to sleep.

She still clearly needs the swaddle though-- since she really does calm down pretty quickly once I start getting her in there. I will try to do the one arm thing first, although-- I am not sure how to do that with the miracle blanket.

It's just so hard since every baby is different-- I am trying to navigate this sleep stuff. DH has strong opinions, but he has never read a sleep book, or a baby book for that matter.



i agree with you, one task at a time. if anything, taking away everything while trying to get her to sleep through the night will only make it harder to get her to sleep through the night...

personally (and this is JMO, not really based on anything factual or medical), i think that we (meaning our society) have an irrational fear of making our kids "dependent" on things. so we rush to take them away when we think they should be "outgrown".

i am fighting this urge myself, with DS and the whole paci thing. but in the end i am letting him keep it even though everyone around me (family, friends) thinks i'm making a mistake. after all, he's not even 2. he's still really a baby. i figure he'll be rid of it in time for his senior prom Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/09 11:05 AM
 

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Re: When you sleep train-- do you take away the paci and swaddle?

For us, DD will be taking that paci to college with her. Chat Icon It just comes in so handy I can't bring myself to take it away from her so I'll worry about it when she turns 2.

I stopped swaddling her long, long ago - and before she was able to sleep through the night. She kept breaking out of the swaddle and it would ride up around her face which freaked me out so that's when I started using the sleep sacks... she may have been 3 months old at the time.

Posted 7/6/09 11:14 AM
 
 

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