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Jesaroo
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with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
video
if you are not convinced what michael vick did was inhuman and obsurd, please watch.
to everyone else, it starts off alittle graphic, but ends up very heartwarming.
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
this is gonna be an interesting call from the NFL - i'm curious to see which way they go
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:49 AM |
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KGools
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
this is gonna be an interesting call from the NFL - i'm curious to see which way they go
Well, if every one of his sponsors are dropping him, I can't imagine the NFL is going to keep him around... it looks bad for them.
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:51 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
yeah, unfortunately, my gut tells me that he won't be banned
he'll be suspended for maybe this season
the falcons won't release him - if they do that, and the NFL still allows him to play, another team will grab him.
Now, if sponsors stop advertising with the falcons or the NFL as a whole, he'll be banned.
I don't have much faith in the big sports organizations to do the right thing
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:54 AM |
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KGools
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
I don't have much faith in the big sports organizations to do the right thing
Me niether.... but hopefully there will be a lot of "fans" who, if he's not banned, will boycott the sport. 
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:56 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
unfortunately, i wouldn't bank on that
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:58 AM |
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Acerone
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by CoopersMom01
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
this is gonna be an interesting call from the NFL - i'm curious to see which way they go
Well, if every one of his sponsors are dropping him, I can't imagine the NFL is going to keep him around... it looks bad for them.
Two sponsors drop him over the weekend.
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| Posted 7/30/07 11:59 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
having worked with an NFL star...it usually works in layers
personal endorsements
team endorsements
NFL endorsements
right now, his personal endorsements are being cancelled.
Now, if the Falcons and/or the NFL lose a crazy amount of fans and/or money from having Vick play, only then will he be banned.
And sadly, I don't see that happening
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:05 PM |
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leighla
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
It's awful, yes. But he has not been convicted yet.
I'm reserving my judgment until the jury says guilty or not guilty.
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:08 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
i dunno - the ring was found on his property
i'm all for innocent till proven guilty - but you're gonna have a hard time convincing a jury that he had no knowledge of it
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:10 PM |
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leighla
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
i dunno - the ring was found on his property
i'm all for innocent till proven guilty - but you're gonna have a hard time convincing a jury that he had no knowledge of it
Yeah, but he didn't live there.
I'm not saying I believe he is completely innocent here, I'm just a little amazing an how RABID the public is about this.
Pacman Jones was involved in gunfire that PARALYZED a man, along with numerous other crimes and you didn't hear people freaking out at all about that.
But when animals are involved, it's like a whole other world.
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:19 PM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
It was on his property. I do not believe for a second he didnt know what was going on. Isn't that all they ever say "I didn't do it" "It wasn't me" I had no idea" It's always BS!
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:21 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by jellybean1420
It was on his property. I do not believe for a second he didnt know what was going on. Isn't that all they ever say "I didn't do it" "It wasn't me" I had no idea" It's always BS!
I agree
That video literally had me crying....those poor dogs....what gets me the most is that dogs are so loving, these dogs are not born bad, they are raised to fight and be aggressive
I think anyone who hurts an animal is the lowest of the low.....
and for the whole innocent until proven guilty, I am SURE that he knew what was going on, turning a blind eye does not make you innocent to the whole situation....what a POS!!!!!!
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:35 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Innocent until proven guilty is for the courts and formal punishment. Getting off in the courtroom does not mean you are "innocent" -- note that the term the courts use is "not guilty" not innocent. OJ was found not guilty but most everyone knows that the evidence was overwhelming that he did it. Innocent until proven guilty is for the courts, not public opinion.
This is also a FEDERAL case and the feds have over a 90% conviction rate.
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:41 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
should be interesting
i wouldn't put alot of faith in the NFL or the Falcons
something very extreme will have to happen
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:58 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
should be interesting
i wouldn't put alot of faith in the NFL or the Falcons
something very extreme will have to happen
I have no faith that the NFL will do the right thing unless Vick is convicted and goes to jail. It's all about money, unfortuantely
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| Posted 7/30/07 12:59 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by Shanti
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
should be interesting
i wouldn't put alot of faith in the NFL or the Falcons
something very extreme will have to happen
I have no faith that the NFL will do the right thing unless Vick is convicted and goes to jail. It's all about money, unfortuantely
exactly -
like i said
exclusive of the falcons and the NFL, vick has his own campaigns
he'll be hurt on those - and he has been
but, unless theres a mass exodus of fans from the falcon games, or viewership of NFL games, he won't be banned
he may get suspended though for the season, to allow this to cool down.
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:02 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
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should be interesting
i wouldn't put alot of faith in the NFL or the Falcons
something very extreme will have to happen
I have no faith that the NFL will do the right thing unless Vick is convicted and goes to jail. It's all about money, unfortuantely
exactly -
like i said
exclusive of the falcons and the NFL, vick has his own campaigns
he'll be hurt on those - and he has been
but, unless theres a mass exodus of fans from the falcon games, or viewership of NFL games, he won't be banned
he may get suspended though for the season, to allow this to cool down.
Right. I'm glad that the personal endorsements are gone and hopefully, always will be (like OJ). That does hurt him financially. However, I can see it now: if he goes to jail, he comes out and makes an ASPCA commercial, then I am sure he will be back in a jersey playing...
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codybear
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
This video made me cry. How can a person be so cruel. The poor dogs. Its just not right, not right at all.
I can't even express how I feel about Vick and his co-defendants.
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:06 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by codybear
This video made me cry. How can a person be so cruel. The poor dogs. Its just not right, not right at all.
I can't even express how I feel about Vick and his co-defendants.
I agree....I cannot imagine why anyone would do this to an animal, an animal that probably loved their owner unconditionally and their owner did this to them...what heartless monsters 
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:07 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
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This is also a FEDERAL case and the feds have over a 90% conviction rate.
I agree that at the very least, he likely had knowledge about what was going on. However, the federal conviction rate, which appears to be 80-90%, has nothing to do with whether a particular individual is guilty.
I don't think he'll be banned. He'll probably be suspended for the year or for as long as the NFL can suspend him.
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:09 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
i am sure you'll see some NFL animal rights campaign surface
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:21 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
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should be interesting
i wouldn't put alot of faith in the NFL or the Falcons
something very extreme will have to happen
I have no faith that the NFL will do the right thing unless Vick is convicted and goes to jail. It's all about money, unfortuantely
exactly -
like i said
exclusive of the falcons and the NFL, vick has his own campaigns
he'll be hurt on those - and he has been
but, unless theres a mass exodus of fans from the falcon games, or viewership of NFL games, he won't be banned
he may get suspended though for the season, to allow this to cool down.
Right. I'm glad that the personal endorsements are gone and hopefully, always will be (like OJ). That does hurt him financially. However, I can see it now: if he goes to jail, he comes out and makes an ASPCA commercial, then I am sure he will be back in a jersey playing...
unfortunately though, there's an easy way to make that money back
he'll write a book
offer an exclusive interview to dateline
appear on some VH1 celeb reality show.
unless he actually does time, he won't suffer
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:25 PM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
I just read an article stating that one of the co-defendants pleaded guilty. The article also said the NAACP is saying Vick is being treated unfairly because he is black.
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| Posted 7/30/07 1:40 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: with all this michael vick stuff, the Truth about Pit Bulls.
Posted by SweetTooth
I just read an article stating that one of the co-defendants pleaded guilty. The article also said the NAACP is saying Vick is being treated unfairly because he is black.
cue sharpton 
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