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Jen2999
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
Posted by smdl
I think it depends on the kids' age.
I mean LET'S RELAX. If a kid is 6 or 7... who cares? It's 1 week in his life.
He/She will get a zero. That's one way to punish a kid that young. What a way to start teaching kids. Yes, school is important. blah blah blah. But don't kid have a lifetime to learn that they MUST BE responsible. I feel that we put some much pressure on kids by the time they are 10 now. That reminds me of the thread when someone here ripped a paper because the name was not on the paper.
COME ON!!! Is it a "good" idea? No! But let's not be so into protocols. I am sure parents don't know about the preparation teachers have to put into the school work. Heck, I would personally thought teachers who teach the same lessons over and over each semester/same grade would have their stuff ready 1 week in advance. I have sure the parents are well intended when asking for the homework. If they really did not care, why would they ask for it? KWIM? I don't know why this always has to be seen as parents being the bad guys all the time or against teachers. I feel of lot of resentment on some posts. I just don't get it!
And like someone said, sometimes you cannot get the time off when you don't have the seniority or when your job does not allow it and you have limited staff.
I think teachers get pissy because a lot of non-teachers tend to constantly downplay the amount of work we do because of the days off we get in the year and the hours. I'm not saying it is right, but that may be the reason.
Also, in my experience, the parents are well-intentioned by asking for the HW, but it RARELY has any follow through, which makes the teacher even more  that they went out of their way for nothing.
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
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For parents who do this- just expect a lower grade for any subjects taught during that time. As a teacher I am never ok with parents who do this as education should always come first- what are you teaching your children about priorities in life that fun takes place over learning?
IMHO I think there is other learning to be had in life besides just what is taught in the classroom. I am in no way, shape or form taking away from what teachers do. I think it is one of the hardest jobs there is....BUT....I will be taking my daughter out here and there, I already know this.
My husbands whole family is in Israel. We go to see them during different jewish holidays. For example we went to Israel last week - I didn't get home until today so my DD missed a day or so of school. I think a week would be too long to take her out - but a few days, to be with her family, experience another culture - language - country...it's an education in itself...one she can't get in a text book.
I agree with you but your example is to expeience family and a culture that to me enhances learning- Going to Disney does not IMO
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| Posted 4/21/09 9:37 PM |
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BaroqueMama
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
Be honest with his teacher. Can it considered an illegal absence? Sure, but what are they going to do? Call the vacation police on you?
I'm a teacher and a parent, and quite honestly, unless you're consistently removing your child from school for vacations, I really don't see the big deal. What if he was sick for three days? He still wouldn't be in school. In my school, the kids usually have journal about their trip if they take it during school days, and then they read it to the class. This way they can actually use their vacation as a learning experience. You have to have balance in life.
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| Posted 4/21/09 9:40 PM |
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
I am huge on education but sometimes it takes a back seat to family time. Honestly, my dad worked for the airlines and we always had to be taken out of school to go away. We all did fine in school and its those trips I remember the most and all the memories.
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| Posted 4/21/09 9:42 PM |
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
Posted by Jen2999
Also, in my experience, the parents are well-intentioned by asking for the HW, but it RARELY has any follow through, which makes the teacher even more that they went out of their way for nothing.
I understand! And I would probably be annoyed too if I was asked to "help them out" but they did follow through. I think the parents are NOT aware that the teachers have to do more work to accomodate them. Maybe the teachers should explained to the parents. Honestly, I would not be aware that it would require more work. Not to say that teachers don't do anything. I just say that I had no idea. I thought you had stuff ready on a piece of paper and that it (you get the idea!). My question here then, why aren't teachers telling the parents about the amount of work it involves and tell them that you expect a follow through to justify the extra work to accomodate them. I feel it would avoid some resentment (maybe!). If you are not happy doing something but you don't tell anyone, then who can guess it's an issue. KWIM?
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| Posted 4/21/09 9:43 PM |
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Jen2999
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Re: X-post re: taking your child out of school for fun
Posted by smdl
Posted by Jen2999
Also, in my experience, the parents are well-intentioned by asking for the HW, but it RARELY has any follow through, which makes the teacher even more that they went out of their way for nothing.
I understand! And I would probably be annoyed too if I was asked to "help them out" but they did follow through. I think the parents are NOT aware that the teachers have to do more work to accomodate them. Maybe the teachers should explained to the parents. Honestly, I would not be aware that it would require more work. Not to say that teachers don't do anything. I just say that I had no idea. I thought you had stuff ready on a piece of paper and that it (you get the idea!). My question here then, why aren't teachers telling the parents about the amount of work it involves and tell them that you expect a follow through to justify the extra work to accomodate them. I feel it would avoid some resentment (maybe!). If you are not happy doing something but you don't tell anyone, then who can guess it's an issue. KWIM?
Oh totally.. I do and there are some parents that are super nice about it. Unfortunately, those parents are FEW and FAR between. I have found that when I explain that I don't have the notes written out yet, or would have to make many photcopies, some parents have this sense of entitlement and get pissy.
I never knew how much work teachers did until I became one. I thought I'd have all this free time and enjoy the vacations.. HA... so it is understandable that a non-teacher would think we just have files of stuff. I have a few of my favorite lessons that I repeat each year, and I follow a similar outline, but I change SO much every year and am constantly trying to improve, add new things, try a new method etc.
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