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Pomegranate5
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Re: Those still working remote
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Pomegranate5
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
I didn't comment about child care, but wfh does help, but my kids are older. I used to have morning care and after care expenses. Now they get on and off the bus because I am here. I am not "watching" them and it does not effect my productivity to say "Hi honey, how was your day?" to my kids when they walk in the door. I spent more time chatting with my coworkers in the office than I do chatting with my kids during work hours.
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
Posted by mommy2be716
dh's job said sometime at the end of the summer/fall. He's a project manager and is hoping management positions are given the option to stay remote. He has his own office set up here and works alot better/harder from home. It seems that their productivity reports are pretty positive showing that people are more willing to answer calls/emails outside work hours now compared to when they went into the office. He said he would rather be on and off calls until 7pm and be home all day, then clock out at 5pm and shut off his phone.
I really hope he can stay home. We would have a much easier job of getting DD to school in the morning if he was here
I think there will always need to be quarantines for the foreseeable future even with vaccination and same for kids in schools. I think working parents will be much more productive given the option. Instead of calling in for a quarantine they will be able to work
I don't understand though- if you have the ability to work from home but are in an office working, why would you have to take days off to quarantine with your kids? Just work from home when needed.
Prior to this mess I was in an office every day as was my staff- but any time somebody was not feeling great, had to stay home with a sick kid, had a child care issue etc, they just worked from home.
It's not all or nothing.
Work in an office and if needed, work from home.
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
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Those still working remote
Last announcement was that we would WFH until the end of May. They'll reassess at that time. I'm guessing they'll push it back to the end of summer since cases on campus skyrocketed recently because of fraternity/sorority parties.
I was one of those that liked the idea of working from home, but when I would work during snow days, etc I felt isolated and didn't think I'd like it. But the way things are - not being stuck at home b/c of snow - able to freely move around...... I love it! There was talk about making some positions permanently wfh and mine was in discussion. They haven't mentioned it again since last summer, but I really hope that's the case!
As far as child care, I HATE remote learning for my 11 year old son b/c he's not motivated and doesn't care about doing well. But it'll be better when he goes back in person and I'm working from home. I like being able to sleep later, love not rushing around after work to get him to after school activities, etc.
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| Posted 3/23/21 10:43 AM |
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Funkybutt
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by jlm2008
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yup - my previous job was similar. It was rare that we were allowed to work from home (only for stuff like snow days, etc - had to take PTO for everything else). If we were granted permission, we had to write in detail what we planned on working on and then had to prove what we worked on when we returned.
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
Posted by mommy2be716
dh's job said sometime at the end of the summer/fall. He's a project manager and is hoping management positions are given the option to stay remote. He has his own office set up here and works alot better/harder from home. It seems that their productivity reports are pretty positive showing that people are more willing to answer calls/emails outside work hours now compared to when they went into the office. He said he would rather be on and off calls until 7pm and be home all day, then clock out at 5pm and shut off his phone.
I really hope he can stay home. We would have a much easier job of getting DD to school in the morning if he was here
I think there will always need to be quarantines for the foreseeable future even with vaccination and same for kids in schools. I think working parents will be much more productive given the option. Instead of calling in for a quarantine they will be able to work
I don't understand though- if you have the ability to work from home but are in an office working, why would you have to take days off to quarantine with your kids? Just work from home when needed.
Prior to this mess I was in an office every day as was my staff- but any time somebody was not feeling great, had to stay home with a sick kid, had a child care issue etc, they just worked from home.
It's not all or nothing.
Work in an office and if needed, work from home.
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yes and that is something that needs to be looked at while we are looking at working from home 100%... why not have more flexibility? If it can be done full time, why not part time?
I think it's time companies all revisited their polices for all of this
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NervousNell
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Funkybutt
Posted by jlm2008
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yup - my previous job was similar. It was rare that we were allowed to work from home (only for stuff like snow days, etc - had to take PTO for everything else). If we were granted permission, we had to write in detail what we planned on working on and then had to prove what we worked on when we returned.
Wow. #micromanagment
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Funkybutt
Posted by jlm2008
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yup - my previous job was similar. It was rare that we were allowed to work from home (only for stuff like snow days, etc - had to take PTO for everything else). If we were granted permission, we had to write in detail what we planned on working on and then had to prove what we worked on when we returned.
Sounds like my husband's old job
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Pomegranate5
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
I think it’s different because parents didn’t necessarily choose to have their kids home- schools closed.
My DH and I cannot work with our DD home. We have too much work and too many meetings. She’ll sit and watch tv but we cannot help with remote learning or make her a snack or whatever on a whim. We have been in a living hell.
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jlm2008
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by TwinMommyToBoys
Posted by mommy2be716
dh's job said sometime at the end of the summer/fall. He's a project manager and is hoping management positions are given the option to stay remote. He has his own office set up here and works alot better/harder from home. It seems that their productivity reports are pretty positive showing that people are more willing to answer calls/emails outside work hours now compared to when they went into the office. He said he would rather be on and off calls until 7pm and be home all day, then clock out at 5pm and shut off his phone.
I really hope he can stay home. We would have a much easier job of getting DD to school in the morning if he was here
I think there will always need to be quarantines for the foreseeable future even with vaccination and same for kids in schools. I think working parents will be much more productive given the option. Instead of calling in for a quarantine they will be able to work
I don't understand though- if you have the ability to work from home but are in an office working, why would you have to take days off to quarantine with your kids? Just work from home when needed.
Prior to this mess I was in an office every day as was my staff- but any time somebody was not feeling great, had to stay home with a sick kid, had a child care issue etc, they just worked from home.
It's not all or nothing.
Work in an office and if needed, work from home.
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yes and that is something that needs to be looked at while we are looking at working from home 100%... why not have more flexibility? If it can be done full time, why not part time?
I think it's time companies all revisited their polices for all of this
I totally agree. But my job was not keen on WFH, even though no reason for most of us to be in. Unfortunately I did not have the luxury of WFH during this past year, they only let us do that for about 5 days in total. So if they didn't revisit their policies this past year, they never will!!! But yeah, it makes no sense why places don't revisit how they do business. If you can WFH and be productive, no reason during a blizzard, or being sick you should need to go in.
Hopefully my next job will be a little more flexible and not so micromanaging.
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| Posted 3/23/21 11:24 AM |
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Lucky09
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by Funkybutt
Posted by jlm2008
But not all jobs operate like that. Like my last job, we had the ability to work from home but could only do it the 5 days this past year we were given permission. If you were sick, or needed to be home for whatever reason, you were not allowed to work from home, you had to use your PTO. While I agree with you 100%, not all companies use common sense. Some like to treat their employees like they are school children and they are the principal. Ridiculous.
Yup - my previous job was similar. It was rare that we were allowed to work from home (only for stuff like snow days, etc - had to take PTO for everything else). If we were granted permission, we had to write in detail what we planned on working on and then had to prove what we worked on when we returned.
Sounds like my husband's old job
My job was somewhat like this pre-covid. Again, some managers prize face time and think face time = productivity. I’m hoping as some of the leadership sees that productivity has not plummeted during the last year that WFH will be allowed to continue on a part time basis at least!
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Re: Those still working remote
I have a new position which is permanently remote, but the rest of my office is still just "essential" workers on rotation (one week on, one week off) and a couple of random attorneys who need to do in office work. There are no plans to change this right now.
My mom's office is similar- people can ask to go in on a case to case basis, but otherwise everyone is remote with NO plans to change that.
I honestly don't think my mom's office will ever be fully in office. They've given up or rented out a lot of their office space so they are actually saving money with people home.
ETA: My job does require childcare for my remote position, however this is suspended at the moment because of Covid. My DD is in Pre-K and is fully remote. My DS was pulled from daycare and it only opened back up in September, however I opted to pull him from it entirely. He'll be starting a new daycare and DD will be starting in person school in September. By then I'm sure they'll be a lot less accommodating to parents with kids at home. At the moment my direct supervisor has her 7 year old in remote school and pulled her 4 year old from pre-k entirely so she has them home with her all day, too. She is extremely understanding and always asks to say hi to my son when we video chat.
ETA: I also will not be having my DD in before/after care. She'll be taking the bus (a 5 minute ride to the school, but she's excited to do it) and it picks up and drops off outside the house. DS will be in daycare part time too.
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Funkybutt
Yup - my previous job was similar. It was rare that we were allowed to work from home (only for stuff like snow days, etc - had to take PTO for everything else). If we were granted permission, we had to write in detail what we planned on working on and then had to prove what we worked on when we returned.
I work for an MTA agency. Since Covid happened, we have to write a Work Plan each week and then return it at the end of the week with what we actually did! It's kind of funny because a good portion of my Work Plan says "responding to various emails and phone calls". But, if you go into the office, you just write "worked at office" for that day. Some people couldn't deal with writing a report every week, so they're just going in 5 days each week.
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Posted by Pomegranate5
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
I didn't comment about child care, but wfh does help, but my kids are older. I used to have morning care and after care expenses. Now they get on and off the bus because I am here. I am not "watching" them and it does not effect my productivity to say "Hi honey, how was your day?" to my kids when they walk in the door. I spent more time chatting with my coworkers in the office than I do chatting with my kids during work hours.
My husband has had my kids who were 3 year old twins at home with him working since the pandemic. I would go into work at 12. He started work at 6am and worked until 4pm for those 4 hours and sometimes beyond he would set them up next to him or nearby in the next room and use the baby camera to see them. We completely baby proofed the room and they were fine with him coming in and out. He would feed them and toilet them between meetings. It worked. The kids learned to be much more independent as well. He works longer hours but for OT which he couldn’t do prior to the pandemic. I used to spend $1500 a month of child care and now I don’t have any child care costs the last year. No one at his job has an issue with him watching the kids and working simultaneously
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I'm surprised that so many people seem to still be working from home. I've been working in office throughout the entire pandemic, and rush hour traffic has gotten back to pre-pandemic levels within the last couple of weeks.
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Pomegranate5
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
My DS is almost 7 and pretty independent. In the morning, he eats breakfast and watches TV until the bus comes at 8:15. He gets himself ready for the day and only needs help pouring milk into his cereal.
The bus drops him off at 3:30. My DH gets him a snack and then my DS usually plays on his Switch until I get home between 3:30-4:30.
I don't think having my DS at home for 30-45 minutes of my DH's work day really has any effect on his productivity as my DS is barely interacting with him during that time. I would think it would be different if he was younger and needed to actually be supervised.
We always needed childcare because I couldn't guarantee I would be home by 3:30 every single day of the week only on Monday and Fridays.
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Those still working remote
My DD is almost 9 and even though I am remote for however much longer it is going to last, I have her in aftercare 3 afternoons a week. I did it for the socialization aspect with her friends and if I had to go back to the office sooner rather than later, at least I still have her spot and can adjust days / times accordingly. If I pulled her out completely I’d have a big issue with trying to get her back in. In the AM she gets herself ready for a school and I take 5 mins to walk across the st to the bus stop. The days she comes home on the bus I have about an hour left of my work day anyway. My job doesn’t care where I work as long as it gets done. I can set up an office in the bathroom and they couldn’t care. Lol. DH works outside of home so he’s no help with that department.
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Those still working remote
My company hasn't really made a decision- we have offices all over the country- they are open, but not mandatory to come in FT. Most people are still WFH at least part time.
Since DD was about 2 (she's 11 now) I've worked from home at least one day a week. I like it and I've been WFH 100% for the past year and will continue to probably indefinitely. DD is remote learning, but since she's older, she's fine on her own. I do have a lot of flexibility in my job- we are all in the same boat, so everyone is super understanding of our time and home commitments. Some people want to get back to office ASAP- and they are allowed to, they just have to let management know (they are still limiting how many people in office at once). We had to hire a lot of new people during the pandemic as I work in a field that actually didn't slow down, but increased business and we've hired people for 100% remote positions. I like the flexibility it gives me and not dealing with trains or traffic. I can take breaks to throw in laundry, take DD & the dogs for a walk, start dinner, etc.
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NervousNell
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I'm surprised that so many people seem to still be working from home. I've been working in office throughout the entire pandemic, and rush hour traffic has gotten back to pre-pandemic levels within the last couple of weeks.
Yep I thought I was the only one still sitting home every single day. I do see more traffic on the roads and I do see office parking lots getting full again.
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I have been working from home since March 2020. Not sure when we are going back maybe when the majority of the people are vaccinated. I am not in a rush so whenever they decide is ok with me.
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Re: Those still working remote
Posted by Pomegranate5
I see a lot of comments about child care. Although I do not have a remote job, I was always under the impression that many companies that allowed remote work ALSO typically required that you have child care secured. Because how can any parent possibly say they are as (or more) productive if they are also watching their young children?
The only thing my firm cares about is billable hours. I have meetings and conferences but a lot of my work is document review so I can do that any time. As long as I am hitting my billing, my boss doesn't care that my kids are home. Granted, I am working many times until the wee hours of the morning to make up for time lost during the day but it does help with child care issues.
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We have had no guidance about when we might return to an office. At this point I think it will be until the end of the summer at least.
I am one who hates hates hates working from home full time. My company was always flexible and we could telework as needed once in awhile - as long as no one abused it it wasn't a big deal. But I really hate only seeing people on a computer screen and honestly I think our work has suffered. I would never want to do this permanently. I like seeing people, I like going to my office, I like having "my own" space. I like the people I work with and its been very difficult for me this past year.
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NervousNell
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Posted by JME78
We have had no guidance about when we might return to an office. At this point I think it will be until the end of the summer at least.
I am one who hates hates hates working from home full time. My company was always flexible and we could telework as needed once in awhile - as long as no one abused it it wasn't a big deal. But I really hate only seeing people on a computer screen and honestly I think our work has suffered. I would never want to do this permanently. I like seeing people, I like going to my office, I like having "my own" space. I like the people I work with and its been very difficult for me this past year.
Same 100%. Glad it's not just me.
This has been terrible for me. My mental health is suffering more and more each day.
Our sales team is making the most noise about letting us come back to work. They say they can't close any new business this way. Old customers placing orders, sure maybe. Finding net new business is just impossible when you are sitting at your dining room table for a year. You can't forge relationships in sales this way.
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Posted by NervousNell
I don't understand though- if you have the ability to work from home but are in an office working, why would you have to take days off to quarantine with your kids? Just work from home when needed.
Prior to this mess I was in an office every day as was my staff- but any time somebody was not feeling great, had to stay home with a sick kid, had a child care issue etc, they just worked from home.
It's not all or nothing.
Work in an office and if needed, work from home.
Prior to this mess nobody, and I mean nobody, was permitted to work from home. You could take work home and work after hours, but Monday-Friday you had to be in the office or take sick/vacation/personal time. Our ED was convinced that working from home was a euphemism for goofing off.
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Posted by DancinBarefoot
Posted by NervousNell
I don't understand though- if you have the ability to work from home but are in an office working, why would you have to take days off to quarantine with your kids? Just work from home when needed.
Prior to this mess I was in an office every day as was my staff- but any time somebody was not feeling great, had to stay home with a sick kid, had a child care issue etc, they just worked from home.
It's not all or nothing.
Work in an office and if needed, work from home.
Prior to this mess nobody, and I mean nobody, was permitted to work from home. You could take work home and work after hours, but Monday-Friday you had to be in the office or take sick/vacation/personal time. Our ED was convinced that working from home was a euphemism for goofing off.
Crazy that adult professionals are still treated as children in this day and age.
Not a way to attract and keep top talent.
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