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beautyq115
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NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
I know there are going to be cuts I want to know exactly from where??
Gee maybe the DOE could first stop with the 5MIL in courier services to start before they think about cutting jobs or taking services away from my kids
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MissJones
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Or the Quality Review??? 
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| Posted 11/7/08 8:56 PM |
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kgs11
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
today my principal said the cuts would "devastating". im nervous! i cant imagine having any more kids in my classroom or any less resources... what a disservice for the children.
they should:
*cut ARIS/ACUITY/SCANTRON
*cut the Quality Review/Progress Report
that would save quite a few million $$$
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| Posted 11/7/08 9:16 PM |
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beautyq115
New Year!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by MissJones
Or the Quality Review???
Yeah putting people up from England...that could save some money
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| Posted 11/7/08 9:29 PM |
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beautyq115
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by kgs11
today my principal said the cuts would "devastating". im nervous! i cant imagine having any more kids in my classroom or any less resources... what a disservice for the children.
they should:
*cut ARIS/ACUITY/SCANTRON
*cut the Quality Review/Progress Report
that would save quite a few million $$$
"Devastating" like people losing jobs???
I hate this...such freaking crap!
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| Posted 11/7/08 9:30 PM |
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mathteach
Roll Tide!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Did anyone read the email from Klein today? 1.3% in February.
BTW: Progress reports get released on Monday. They changed our peer group to all of the new charter schools. We got an F.
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| Posted 11/7/08 9:50 PM |
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nicrae
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by mathteach
Did anyone read the email from Klein today? 1.3% in February.
BTW: Progress reports get released on Monday. They changed our peer group to all of the new charter schools. We got an F.
Ah welcome to my club. We got an F last year!
The quality review is a waste of money as well as the scantron test!!! 
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| Posted 11/7/08 10:08 PM |
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BigB
C & J are 10!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
The budget cuts were about 1.3% (so for a school around 600 students, that means about 63,000) now and in September it will be 2.5%.
They are making major cuts at Tweed and they eliminated the city-wide grade 4 science test. In addition, they cut monies for grading the ELA and Math assessments.
Quality Review has already been downsized; the Brits are going back to England. It was never supose to be long term. Their purpose was to train DOE staff to conduct the quality reviews.
I also see Acuity falling off the charts in the coming years.
However, accountability isn't going anywhere. The education system in America is becoming more data driven instruction.
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| Posted 11/7/08 10:52 PM |
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BigB
C & J are 10!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by mathteach
Did anyone read the email from Klein today? 1.3% in February.
BTW: Progress reports get released on Monday. They changed our peer group to all of the new charter schools. We got an F.
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
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| Posted 11/7/08 10:53 PM |
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kgs11
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by BigB
Posted by mathteach
Did anyone read the email from Klein today? 1.3% in February.
BTW: Progress reports get released on Monday. They changed our peer group to all of the new charter schools. We got an F.
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
progress report grades were supposed to be made public to the school staff, embargoed to the public.
and "devastating" as in about 500 eople losing their jobs. i hope we dont have any mid year layoffs!
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| Posted 11/8/08 9:08 AM |
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MelBobby
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
My school got a B for two years in a row (quality review) therefore, there not comin this year..wohooooooo
and if anyone is aware of the acuity....that test is given like 4 times a year in math and E.L.A...then from there we have to do conferencing focusing on skills that the students dont' know based on acuity...drives me crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ....
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| Posted 11/8/08 9:13 AM |
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
I haven't even been able to log onto Acuity- I'm doing it the way I'm supposed to, and I can't get in.
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| Posted 11/8/08 11:50 AM |
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MelBobby
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
some people in my school were having difficulties too!! aggravating....
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| Posted 11/8/08 2:24 PM |
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kgs11
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
to get into acuity try using your first intial last name with the numner 2 after it. your password is your 6 digit file nmber.
hth
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| Posted 11/8/08 4:52 PM |
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donegal419
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by BigB
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
Dh's school got an F. they found out on Friday... the prinicipal had a meeting to break the news. she told them all the info. would be in the papers on Monday. they were so surprised to get an F because they are a decent school, but according to the DOE's stupid formula, even if you are doing well, but you don't improve by a certain percentage, you fail.
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| Posted 11/8/08 6:43 PM |
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by donegal419
Posted by BigB
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
Dh's school got an F. they found out on Friday... the prinicipal had a meeting to break the news. she told them all the info. would be in the papers on Monday. they were so surprised to get an F because they are a decent school, but according to the DOE's stupid formula, even if you are doing well, but you don't improve by a certain percentage, you fail.
That whole system is absurd. The school on the floor below us, where the kids all but hang from the light fixtures, got an A last year. We got a B, which, to be honest, was a lot better than I think we deserved. A major snowjob went on with our Quality Review.
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| Posted 11/8/08 6:45 PM |
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kgs11
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
we went from a D to an A. what changed? nothing, escept we got moreparents to turn in those surveys in the green envelopes. we have pretty good pass rates, but nothing was really different. what a crock these reports are!
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| Posted 11/8/08 7:00 PM |
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BigB
C & J are 10!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by donegal419
Posted by BigB
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
Dh's school got an F. they found out on Friday... the prinicipal had a meeting to break the news. she told them all the info. would be in the papers on Monday. they were so surprised to get an F because they are a decent school, but according to the DOE's stupid formula, even if you are doing well, but you don't improve by a certain percentage, you fail.
An email came on late Friday afternoon, requesting that principals continue to embargo the grades until further notice. They are not going to run in the paper on Monday as suggested. Who knows what is going on!
I like the quality review. I think I am in the minority here though. I think it is a good way to look at what you are doing and apply a number to it. We have two of the toughest reviewers in the system come to our school in the last two years. But, we have taken their suggestions and it has made a difference in how we are using data. It is interesting to look at how many different ways reports can be run. However, we have a great Data specialist and he so nerds out with these reports.
The purpose of Acuity is to look at skill areas and differentiate instruction in the classroom. Eventhough I have done a similiar thing in the past, I like that there is a formal assessment.
The key to doing well is moving your level 1 kids to a 2 and your 2s to a 3. If you are doing that, then your school should be fine.
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Posted by BigB
I like the quality review. I think I am in the minority here though. I think it is a good way to look at what you are doing and apply a number to it. We have two of the toughest reviewers in the system come to our school in the last two years. But, we have taken their suggestions and it has made a difference in how we are using data. It is interesting to look at how many different ways reports can be run. However, we have a great Data specialist and he so nerds out with these reports.
The purpose of Acuity is to look at skill areas and differentiate instruction in the classroom. Eventhough I have done a similiar thing in the past, I like that there is a formal assessment.
The key to doing well is moving your level 1 kids to a 2 and your 2s to a 3. If you are doing that, then your school should be fine.
I think that the Quality Review would be a better tool if the reviewers just dropped in- my principal chose the teachers who would be visited- so of course he picked the better teachers. He picked the teachers who were interviewed- so of course he'll pick the ones who toe the party line. It was all a show and meant nothing. As it is now, it's totally inauthentic.
As for using data- I don't have an issue with it, but like everything else, it's time comsuming. I feel like I'd be a better teacher if I didn't have to teach so much, and I don't even do as much as some of my colleagues, who do Saturday Academy, and the SES programs till 5:30 most days. And it would be nice if Acuity actually WORKED for all of us. For the money, it should be flawless.
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| Posted 11/9/08 11:08 AM |
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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
Lol. Then my principal's in trouble, b/c he told half the staff that we got an 'A'. We also did well b/c we got more parents to turn in their surveys.
I heard 1.3% in Jan/Feb, but I don't know if it's another 3% in Sept or if the total of all the cuts will equal 3%. But whatever the percentage is, the kids are getting screwed. My school is going to have to lose people next fall.
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BigB
C & J are 10!
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
I heard 1.3% in Jan/Feb, but I don't know if it's another 3% in Sept or if the total of all the cuts will equal 3%. But whatever the percentage is, the kids are getting screwed. My school is going to have to lose people next fall.
Don't worry about it too much because the City Council will just reinstate a portion of the money in the summer. This happened last July and we got back enough money to keep 3 teachers.
But we still had to trim the fat. We ordered less materials this year and are doing just fine. Teachers have just become more careful with paper and breaking technology.
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| Posted 11/9/08 10:50 PM |
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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Not sure about that. We just had a staff meeting today, and my principal basically told us that the cuts would be 5% next fall and more in 2010.  They're definitely going to have to excess staff.
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| Posted 11/14/08 7:37 PM |
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MelBobby
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
Not sure about that. We just had a staff meeting today, and my principal basically told us that the cuts would be 5% next fall and more in 2010. They're definitely going to have to excess staff.
heard the same thing!! except my principal said she would try not to excess staff....perhaps less per-session, less supplies..who knows what will happen..it's a big mess!!
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| Posted 11/14/08 7:43 PM |
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Spring Baby06
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
for my school it's $80,000 this year and over $200,000 next year.
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| Posted 11/14/08 9:04 PM |
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Spring Baby06
My two loves
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Re: NYC Budget cuts?? And definitive answers yet??
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
Progress reports aren't supose to be relased until later in the week. And how do you know your grade already? Principals were directly ordered to embargo the grade until further notice.
Lol. Then my principal's in trouble, b/c he told half the staff that we got an 'A'. We also did well b/c we got more parents to turn in their surveys.
I heard 1.3% in Jan/Feb, but I don't know if it's another 3% in Sept or if the total of all the cuts will equal 3%. But whatever the percentage is, the kids are getting screwed. My school is going to have to lose people next fall.
Our grade has been public for about 3 weeks now.
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