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jambalady
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by Octobermom

This whole debate leaves me confused.

Schools are schools and daycares are daycares.

If conditions are unsafe -- as they were this morning (a ft. of snow on the ground, unplowed streets, limited transportation, suspended bus service, unshoveled sidewalks) there is no reason for 1 million plus NYC children to be mandated to attend school. It is a parent's responsibility to arrange for afterschool care, care on the weekends, care during vacation weeks, care for holidays such as veteran's day, or care during summer breaks. Parents should realize that there may be one or two days a year that they may need to take off from work due to inclement weather if they don't have anyone that can watch their child on short notice -- the same way that they might need to lose a day if their child was sick and could not attend school or daycare and plan accordingly. The whole "school closings inconvenienced me" arguement is ridiculous imo.






I don't think people are all riled up because they are inconvenienced by school closings. I think it is a given that if conditions are truly that hazardous (like today) schools should be closed and parents will have to figure something out.

I think what people were pizzed about was this

I feel extremely resentful when Mayor Bloomberg insists on keeping schools open so parents can go to work. Last time I checked we weren't babysitters . . .

The implication there is that when a school day is not called, we are just shoving our kids off happily skipping off to work doing a song and dance, and annoyed bc it's an inconvenience to us to have to find alternate childcare, when the reality is that we have to work because someone at our jobs determined that we HAVE to go in that day, just like someone in power at her job (the Mayor) determined that SHE has to go in that day.

If she doesn't want to go in, for whatever reason, 40-1 student/teacher ration, hazardous conditions/she wants to eat donuts at home, it's her choice. use a personal day and don't go in, just like a working parent has that same choice.

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Posted 1/27/11 4:43 PM
 
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

I just wanted to add this.

First I am a NYC guidance counselor.

I live in Queens, I work in Queens, I am a product of NYC Public Schools.

I am fine with going to work when it snows bc I live 3 miles from work and can walk if need be.

I will say this. The reason schools stay open IS so parents can get to work. It IS a babysitting day.

Half the kids are out so even if all the teachers show you cannot teach a lesson.

I am fine with this. It comes with the territory. We are there to babysit the kids on these days.

It is what it is, but let's not think anything educational is happening Chat Icon You are controlling the masses in an auditorium bc so many teachers are out. Or teachers have classrooms half full--depends on the school.

The argument about living in LI and therefore NOT being able to work in NYC? Yeah that will never happen. The cost of living in NYC is too high. Period. There is a reason they did away with this rule for other NYC jobs. And one thing we have that is still very strong and hard to eff with is the UFT...never.gonna.happen.

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Posted 1/27/11 5:23 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by DiamondGirl

I just wanted to add this.

First I am a NYC guidance counselor.

I live in Queens, I work in Queens, I am a product of NYC Public Schools.

I am fine with going to work when it snows bc I live 3 miles from work and can walk if need be.

I will say this. The reason schools stay open IS so parents can get to work. It IS a babysitting day.

Half the kids are out so even if all the teachers show you cannot teach a lesson.

I am fine with this. It comes with the territory. We are there to babysit the kids on these days.

It is what it is, but let's not think anything educational is happening Chat Icon You are controlling the masses in an auditorium bc so many teachers are out. Or teachers have classrooms half full--depends on the school.

The argument about living in LI and therefore NOT being able to work in NYC? Yeah that will never happen. The cost of living in NYC is too high. Period. There is a reason they did away with this rule for other NYC jobs. And one thing we have that is still very strong and hard to eff with is the UFT...never.gonna.happen.



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Posted 1/27/11 5:34 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

As a NYC teacher, I think what gets us most mad about the snow days is that you are seeing every other school in creation get a snow day and then we don't. It feels like another giant FU from Bloomy since the overall impression he gives off is that he could care less about teachers.

That being said...his decision is 100% not about the teachers. It is about the students and the parents...his constituates. So if there were no children inviolved techers would be going to work like everyone else.

So while I initally get annoyed when we do not have a snow, I usually get over it b/c I know that he was not thinking about how I as a teacher will get to work.

As for NYC teachers having to live in NYC....that is just rediculous. We don't have that many snow storms to push that type of legislation! Plus they would lose too many teachers to do it.

Posted 1/27/11 5:45 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by Octobermom

This whole debate leaves me confused.

Schools are schools and daycares are daycares.

If conditions are unsafe -- as they were this morning (a ft. of snow on the ground, unplowed streets, limited transportation, suspended bus service, unshoveled sidewalks) there is no reason for 1 million plus NYC children to be mandated to attend school. It is a parent's responsibility to arrange for afterschool care, care on the weekends, care during vacation weeks, care for holidays such as veteran's day, or care during summer breaks. Parents should realize that there may be one or two days a year that they may need to take off from work due to inclement weather if they don't have anyone that can watch their child on short notice -- the same way that they might need to lose a day if their child was sick and could not attend school or daycare and plan accordingly. The whole "school closings inconvenienced me" arguement is ridiculous imo.






Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon ITA! As a teacher, I never expect my district to close for my convenience. I expect it to close for the safety of the children. When you turn on the news and see clips of cars sliding around and getting stuck, why would you want to send your kids out into that? Sometimes emergencies happen that result in children being unable to go to school - weather, illness, even the rare evacuations due to bomb scares/fires, etc. - and parents need to have a backup plan in place to make sure their children will be safe and have supervision.

Since children do go to school to learn, and teachers go to work to teach, keeping the schools open on a day like this would be pointless. As many posters already said, between many students being absent and kids being shuffled into other classrooms if their teacher doesn't show up, it really is next to impossible to teach anything worthwhile. So in my opinion, it really would be like babysitting to keeps school open on a day like this.

Posted 1/27/11 5:50 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by DiamondGirl

I just wanted to add this.

First I am a NYC guidance counselor.

I live in Queens, I work in Queens, I am a product of NYC Public Schools.

I am fine with going to work when it snows bc I live 3 miles from work and can walk if need be.

I will say this. The reason schools stay open IS so parents can get to work. It IS a babysitting day.

Half the kids are out so even if all the teachers show you cannot teach a lesson.

I am fine with this. It comes with the territory. We are there to babysit the kids on these days.

It is what it is, but let's not think anything educational is happening Chat Icon You are controlling the masses in an auditorium bc so many teachers are out. Or teachers have classrooms half full--depends on the school.

The argument about living in LI and therefore NOT being able to work in NYC? Yeah that will never happen. The cost of living in NYC is too high. Period. There is a reason they did away with this rule for other NYC jobs. And one thing we have that is still very strong and hard to eff with is the UFT...never.gonna.happen.



Agreed, we have one of the strongest unions and that nonsense of forcing us to live in certain areas will never happen.

Look, figuring out what to do with your child when there is a school closing, vacation, or when they are sick is par for the course. It is part of being a parent to have to sacrifice pay if a situation arises where your child needs you....wether they are sick or their school is closed due to weather.

Many people, teachers and not, take unpaid leave after having a baby because they need to stay home and take care of their newborn.....you have to expect that there will always be days you can not go to work, not by choice, once you have a child!

Posted 1/27/11 6:33 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by jambalady

I think what people were pizzed about was this

I feel extremely resentful when Mayor Bloomberg insists on keeping schools open so parents can go to work. Last time I checked we weren't babysitters . . .

The implication there is that when a school day is not called, we are just shoving our kids off happily skipping off to work doing a song and dance, and annoyed bc it's an inconvenience to us to have to find alternate childcare, when the reality is that we have to work because someone at our jobs determined that we HAVE to go in that day, just like someone in power at her job (the Mayor) determined that SHE has to go in that day.

If she doesn't want to go in, for whatever reason, 40-1 student/teacher ration, hazardous conditions/she wants to eat donuts at home, it's her choice. use a personal day and don't go in, just like a working parent has that same choice.



I too teach in the city- and I agree with the OP. It's NOT a slam at parents. I agree with her because we ARE made to feel like babysitters by the Mayor and Chancellor. Unless you are a city teacher you probably don't know the contempt he seems to have for us. Chat Icon

In fact, on the "non-snow" day when every school in the tri-state area seemed closed, our new chancellor said something like, "well, we have to open the schools. We can't have a million kids wandering the streets," which only reinforced that belief, whichis held by many NYC teachers.

Posted 1/27/11 6:42 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by MrsProfessor

Posted by jambalady

I think what people were pizzed about was this

I feel extremely resentful when Mayor Bloomberg insists on keeping schools open so parents can go to work. Last time I checked we weren't babysitters . . .

The implication there is that when a school day is not called, we are just shoving our kids off happily skipping off to work doing a song and dance, and annoyed bc it's an inconvenience to us to have to find alternate childcare, when the reality is that we have to work because someone at our jobs determined that we HAVE to go in that day, just like someone in power at her job (the Mayor) determined that SHE has to go in that day.

If she doesn't want to go in, for whatever reason, 40-1 student/teacher ration, hazardous conditions/she wants to eat donuts at home, it's her choice. use a personal day and don't go in, just like a working parent has that same choice.



I too teach in the city- and I agree with the OP. It's NOT a slam at parents. I agree with her because we ARE made to feel like babysitters by the Mayor and Chancellor. Unless you are a city teacher you probably don't know the contempt he seems to have for us. Chat Icon

In fact, on the "non-snow" day when every school in the tri-state area seemed closed, our new chancellor said something like, "well, we have to open the schools. We can't have a million kids wandering the streets," which only reinforced that belief, whichis held by many NYC teachers.



My most favorite part of that disaster of a day was when our esteemed chancellor cancelled a school visit due to the weather!

Posted 1/27/11 6:44 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by Ang-Rich

I highly doubt that the city schools are kept open so that parents can go to work.

I feel inconvenienced by the snow itself...not school (or daycare in my case) being closed. There are times when daycare is open but I chose to keep my kids home and take the day off because it's just not safe out on the roads.

I don't expect teachers to babysit my children...I expect them to educated them while they are together. I know it's hard getting to work in this weather but everytime you are dealing with this so am I.



As a school administrator, parents working and not leaving kids home alone is a MAJOR reason schools don't close often! NYC has over 1 million school children and 2/3 of those children are under the age of 13, so the city does not want law suits regarding school closures.

ETA: Student safety is another issue with classrooms of too many children and not enough teachers. In some schools there was 1 teacher and 65 students. That is just not safe. You also have to consider transportation for the students. If something happened with a school bus, everyone in their grandmother would sue. Finally, during the last snow storm, city wide attendance was 35%, so people choose to stay home!

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Posted 1/27/11 6:49 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by Moehick

My most favorite part of that disaster of a day was when our esteemed chancellor cancelled a school visit due to the weather!



Too funny, right?

As for residence requirements for teachers, as others have said, it won't happen. In fact, anyone who applies to teach in NYC at this point is out of their mind, but that's another post.

In my school, there are a handful of teachers who live near the school who never make it in when the weather is bad. I live 50 miles away and if the train's running, I can get to work. I have other colleagues who live a good distance who almost always make it. So it's a stupid argument to make for what amounts to probably less than 5% of the school year.

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Posted 1/27/11 6:50 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

First of all 7 of those snow days have been since 1996 and 2 of them were from last year. When there is enough snow that affect mass transit and make it unsafe for children to travel the schools are closed. Whether we, I am a teacher on leave, like it are not our job is to teach and take care of children. When the schools are closed many people have to find people to take care of their children or take a day off. There were many people in work today. I know just in my neighborhood the cleaners, deli, supermarket, dry cleaners, pediatrician's office, and diner were open.

Posted 1/27/11 7:19 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by jgl

I guess parents dont care if their kids are sitting in a classroom of 40 students and 1 teacher.



this is such an ugly statement to make.

ETA: funny thing is that many parents are starting to resent the idea that their NYC teachers are able to live so far outside of the city. there is talk of making NYC teachers live within the five boroughs like they did with other NYC jobs.

you decide where you live and you decide where you work. if you can't figure it out and worry about your safely, work closer to your home.

but don't expect an entire municipal school system to acquiese to your needs.

btw, its a LOT better than having your kids home alone. which happened to someone I know yesterday b.c her district closed and she HAD to come in to work. kid. 11. home for a few hours alone until someone could get over there. and these are professionals. lawyers. doctors.

Kelly9904 I want to kiss you right now.



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Posted 1/27/11 7:51 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

This is a never ending debate. I'm a NYC teacher.
Last week I was one of 50 who choose to go in on the snow day. It was HELLISH. The kids are annoyed because they are crammed into a room with kids who are not usually in their class. We can't continue with our regular lessons because usually we have multiple grade levels in one room.

What can you do? I do my best to make it a fun day. I try to put in a great
"snow movie" like snow buddies or do a quick poetry lesson and have them write about the snow.

It does stink for the teachers too. There is no parking lot for most NYC schools and try finding parking on a snow day. It is near impossible. Mass trasnit is not an option for my school.

Then there is the problem of driving to and from.

We all have to make our own decisions. Do what is best for you. If you don't feel safe, by all means stay home. If you can make it in safely, go for it. The rets st of my car pool stayed home that day!

Whatever each individual does, teacher or not, is up to them. I think it is just frustrating for NYC teachers to see that every school on LI is closed, Bloomberg says "stay off the roads", and then we are expectected to show up. That doesn't seem fair. I think most of you have to at least agree with that.

To my fellow teachers: this is a thankless job. We all knew that before we started. It is less stressful to avoid these arguments. Just do what is best for you and stay safe. Chat Icon

Posted 1/27/11 8:02 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

To answer your question, yes, I would assume it is an inconvenience for some parents to have school closed when they need to get to work. I would be inconvenienced if my son's daycare closed and my district did not. I'd suck it up and call out. What else can I do?

As for the debate about whether or not lessons should be taught when there is not a snow day and few kids show up, as a teacher, I can tell you this is not rational. How could you teach a lesson to 1/3 of your class and have 2/3 miss it? Each lesson builds upon the previous one, so there's no way anything new could be taught without having to repeat the same lesson the next day.

And as for NYC teachers having to live within the 5 boroughs, that would SEVERELY limit the pool from which the DOE could pull qualified teachers. As a parent, I would be VERY against this, considering snow days account for so few of the school year days. You would most likely have fewer highly qualified teachers all year so that on a few days during the winter, more teachers could make it to work. And as I said above, nothing new is happening anyway on those day. I just can't say enough how bad an idea this would be. JMHO

Posted 1/27/11 8:12 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

To answer the OP, no I don't find it an inconvenience. I actually love a good snow day. We are lucky enough that we don't have to worry about going into work. I think people in general tend to make a big deal out of nothing when it comes to the weather Chat Icon

Posted 1/27/11 8:15 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

As a special ed teacher who works for the DOE, I think that snow days are NOT more for the teacher's safety as they are for the student's safety. It's very obvious that Bloomberg can give a rat's a$$ about teachers but how some parents can think that sending their children to school in 12" plus of snow where they can potentially be put in danger (walking along icy, unshoveled streets; crossing intersections with cars that might lose control; boarding a bus that might get stuck and/or lose control in the snow) is beyond me. I know that NOW that I am a parent, I will keep my child home and if need be, take a sick day. I know this is not a realistic option for everyone and I feel for those that have their hands tied, but at some point, the safety of your child needs to come first!!!

Posted 1/27/11 8:19 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by BigB

Posted by Ang-Rich

I highly doubt that the city schools are kept open so that parents can go to work.

I feel inconvenienced by the snow itself...not school (or daycare in my case) being closed. There are times when daycare is open but I chose to keep my kids home and take the day off because it's just not safe out on the roads.

I don't expect teachers to babysit my children...I expect them to educated them while they are together. I know it's hard getting to work in this weather but everytime you are dealing with this so am I.



As a school administrator, parents working and not leaving kids home alone is a MAJOR reason schools don't close often! NYC has over 1 million school children and 2/3 of those children are under the age of 13, so the city does not want law suits regarding school closures.

ETA: Student safety is another issue with classrooms of too many children and not enough teachers. In some schools there was 1 teacher and 65 students. That is just not safe. You also have to consider transportation for the students. If something happened with a school bus, everyone in their grandmother would sue. Finally, during the last snow storm, city wide attendance was 35%, so people choose to stay home!





Student safety must also be an issue when deciding to keep the schools open. I would think that for the same reasons the city would be concerned about liability for being closed they would be concerned for being open. Children hurt/harmed trying to get to an open school could potentially bring a suit against the city.



This post has hit a variety of topics. For me..as a parent seeing a person without children in this situation or that will be in this situation come over here and bash the very people she was "looking" for insight from was out of line. To assume that anyone of us here pushes our children to school in bad weather or takes issue with a school demanding they stay open is offensive. To belittle parents for sending a child to an open school makes no sense to me.

The issue is with the DOE...not so much the parents in this situation. There is this back and forth that hits on so much resentment. Chat Icon I can't help but feel it is mis-directed.

Message edited 1/27/2011 8:23:58 PM.

Posted 1/27/11 8:22 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

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Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.

With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.



What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...



Oh please! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?

Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal??? Chat Icon Chat Icon



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Posted 1/27/11 8:27 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by jambalady

Posted by Octobermom

This whole debate leaves me confused.

Schools are schools and daycares are daycares.

If conditions are unsafe -- as they were this morning (a ft. of snow on the ground, unplowed streets, limited transportation, suspended bus service, unshoveled sidewalks) there is no reason for 1 million plus NYC children to be mandated to attend school. It is a parent's responsibility to arrange for afterschool care, care on the weekends, care during vacation weeks, care for holidays such as veteran's day, or care during summer breaks. Parents should realize that there may be one or two days a year that they may need to take off from work due to inclement weather if they don't have anyone that can watch their child on short notice -- the same way that they might need to lose a day if their child was sick and could not attend school or daycare and plan accordingly. The whole "school closings inconvenienced me" arguement is ridiculous imo.






I don't think people are all riled up because they are inconvenienced by school closings. I think it is a given that if conditions are truly that hazardous (like today) schools should be closed and parents will have to figure something out.

I think what people were pizzed about was this

I feel extremely resentful when Mayor Bloomberg insists on keeping schools open so parents can go to work. Last time I checked we weren't babysitters . . .

The implication there is that when a school day is not called, we are just shoving our kids off happily skipping off to work doing a song and dance, and annoyed bc it's an inconvenience to us to have to find alternate childcare, when the reality is that we have to work because someone at our jobs determined that we HAVE to go in that day, just like someone in power at her job (the Mayor) determined that SHE has to go in that day.

If she doesn't want to go in, for whatever reason, 40-1 student/teacher ration, hazardous conditions/she wants to eat donuts at home, it's her choice. use a personal day and don't go in, just like a working parent has that same choice.



Middle school teacher here. I worked in a very poor section of NYC for many years.

I can understand why the OP made the babysitting analogy and it is NOT a swipe at parents. There are two things I think you should keep in mind.

1. When the DOE decides to keep schools open on days when a snow day would have been "understandable" - it does become "like" babysitting in the fact that so few kids come to school that you cannot conduct a lesson because more than 1/2 the class will be left behind. Behavior is worse than usual because kids are all riled up about the snow. Most of the time "special schedules" are in effect IE: busy work. You have kids in front of you that you don't necessarily teach during the day and you need to "keep them in the room, under control and safe" and that is a literal quote from an AP. It can be a real mess.

2. On more than one occasion I attended a workshop with some DOE higher ups who stated that leaders in poorer regions frown upon snow days and communicate that with the mayor because parents needing to go to work and because of the percentage of students within those regions who are entitled to free and reduced breakfast and lunch. It was stated outright that the only "good meal" many students in my region ate in a day was served at school. I should also add that I originally got my job with the DOE through my first cousin, who was the superintendent of the district at the time, so my information is reliable. I'm not saying this is why they don't close schools, but it is the mindset of some leaders in the DOE.

I'm not trying to offend or upset anyone, but this was my experience. I work in Westchester now and the attitude behind snow days is totally different.... safety first....

Posted 1/27/11 8:35 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by ttcc

As a NYC teacher, I think what gets us most mad about the snow days is that you are seeing every other school in creation get a snow day and then we don't. It feels like another giant FU from Bloomy since the overall impression he gives off is that he could care less about teachers.

That being said...his decision is 100% not about the teachers. It is about the students and the parents...his constituates. So if there were no children inviolved techers would be going to work like everyone else.

So while I initally get annoyed when we do not have a snow, I usually get over it b/c I know that he was not thinking about how I as a teacher will get to work.

As for NYC teachers having to live in NYC....that is just rediculous. We don't have that many snow storms to push that type of legislation! Plus they would lose too many teachers to do it.



ITA - my DH is FDNY and even FDNY and NYPD are allowed to lived 2 counties away from NYC...

Posted 1/27/11 8:38 PM
 

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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....

Posted by jprimrose

Posted by Ophelia

Posted by jgl

I guess parents dont care if their kids are sitting in a classroom of 40 students and 1 teacher.



this is such an ugly statement to make.

ETA: funny thing is that many parents are starting to resent the idea that their NYC teachers are able to live so far outside of the city. there is talk of making NYC teachers live within the five boroughs like they did with other NYC jobs.

you decide where you live and you decide where you work. if you can't figure it out and worry about your safely, work closer to your home.

but don't expect an entire municipal school system to acquiese to your needs.

btw, its a LOT better than having your kids home alone. which happened to someone I know yesterday b.c her district closed and she HAD to come in to work. kid. 11. home for a few hours alone until someone could get over there. and these are professionals. lawyers. doctors.

Kelly9904 I want to kiss you right now.



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There are no NYC jobs - to my knowledge that "HAVE" to live within the 5 boroughs. They don't pay enough to demand something like that.

the rule is (at least for FDNY and NYPD) that they have to live within 2 counties of NYC (IE Suffolk, Rockland....)

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